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pisces88
post Apr 15 2018, 02:24 AM

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The best is put ur own fd

Every month u put 1000 fd for 12months

Saving plan is actually jus taking ur money n buying unit trust for u. U can jus buy ur own unit trust
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post Apr 15 2018, 02:29 AM

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QUOTE(samsungXP @ Apr 15 2018, 02:25 AM)
But every month target save rm300 - rm500.FD min rm1000
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Hmm i would suggest u putting in unit trust. But i guess u are not a investment person? Jus wanna put fd n zero risk?

Maybe can put fd every 2 months then.. 500+500
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post Apr 15 2018, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(christ14 @ Apr 15 2018, 06:05 PM)
whut is this shocking.gif
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You dont know about sspn? Education fund for ur kids
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post Apr 22 2018, 02:15 AM

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QUOTE(Harddisk @ Apr 22 2018, 02:10 AM)
I took a saving plan by HLA. Look out for it, I think it's still available. Minimum lock in, 6 year. Return quite high.
TS dah la cakap 6 - 10 years and you go babbling about liquidity risk.
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HLA... that is not saving plan my friend.. Jus a way to sell their product by insurance company

Whats the return when u withdraw after the minimum of 6th year?
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post Apr 22 2018, 04:17 AM

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QUOTE(Harddisk @ Apr 22 2018, 02:46 AM)
There's a guaranteed return, average to 6.9%/annum. Interest applied on this amount if you don't do withdrawal on it. There is also dividend, but forgotten the rate. My last calculation based on best rate, it could go up to around 9.7%/annum.

Yes, withdraw after completed 6 years tenure. It was backed with PIDM as well.
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i think there was a thread in Finance discussing this so called 'saving plan' from HLA, busted their myth of so called 'guaranteed return'...

im quite familiar with the returns, dividends, and surrender value.. many HLA agents have explained to me laugh.gif
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post Apr 22 2018, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(Harddisk @ Apr 22 2018, 07:25 PM)
I did the calculations. Only those that don't understand it said it's a myth.
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30%dividend per annum? Hahahaha
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post Apr 22 2018, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(Harddisk @ Apr 22 2018, 08:03 PM)
I've already said, average to 6.9% per annum. Not including dividend.
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Ops sorry, Yes i noticed u said didnt include dividend.

I meant to say, 'you believe the agent when they say dividend 30%'? Invest 12000 a year.. The dividend is 3600 @@

What does ur policy say you will get when you terminate the policy / upon maturity? I rmber there is no 'guaranteed return / guaranteed profit' , only 'worst case scenario / best case scenario'.

Correct?

Anyway, its your money. I jus wanna start a /kopitiam talk, no offence smile.gif
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post Apr 22 2018, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 22 2018, 08:35 PM)
Tq unker hehe biggrin.gif
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post Apr 22 2018, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 22 2018, 10:21 PM)
i think the only way to find the real return is really enter the program, then plot every year how much pay in, then get every year pay out.
i think after year 10.. then can see whats the real returns..after all those variables like dividend /that particular year actual figure u received etc
i had one running over 10years adi (not HL) i think 12 year payment , then autopilot, when i check the real figures it was like 3-4% real return.. not much actually. but ok la for some forced savings/backup funds. haha and then just leave it to run until 60 or 75years old. etc...
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Ya need to enter and wait 10,15yrs only can see real return... But cannot guarantee it will be higher than unit trust or even fd. Because policy doesnt guarantee a payout. My own brother's education saving plan payout was lower than fd rate (compounded) after 10yrs.
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post Apr 22 2018, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(Chowda @ Apr 22 2018, 10:15 PM)
I calculated saving plus plan before, better you keep in FD. FD accumulated interest plus shorter maturity period, Saving plus plan fixed interest at 3 %, usually with few years maturity period. Your accumulated interest in few years definitely higher than saving plus plan i tell you.
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Not everyone understands...

If they use 'best case scenario' % calculatiob of course the return will be higher than fd. But impossible every year also 'best case scenario' ma.

If u tell the agent this, they will tell u 'aiyo boss, every year hla gives out xx% la, wont drop below xx%'

Then u ask them 'is it guaranteed in policy?'

They eill diam diam.
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post Apr 22 2018, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Apr 22 2018, 10:29 PM)
best is to park everything excess into full flexi housing loan  laugh.gif then every month quite cheap for my monthly mortgage  laugh.gif
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This i totally agree...if i fully park into my flexi loan now, the return from rental is a whooping 7.5%!'

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