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briantwj
post Aug 7 2018, 06:47 PM

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So the problem was not Emenalo anyway, bobo Marina
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post Aug 7 2018, 07:25 PM

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Oblak??

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...e-Courtois.html
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post Aug 7 2018, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Aug 7 2018, 03:39 PM)
Chelsea have lodged a late bid to sign Shakhtar Donetsk midfielder Bernard, according to Sky sources, but the Brazilian is on his way to Everton for a medical.
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As usual our club transfer dealer love chasing the ball after it was shot on target..... doh.gif

QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Aug 7 2018, 06:30 PM)
Rumor:

Marca: Chelsea will loan Kovavic for a year with buy out clause

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Our club has become a cheapskate nowadays. No stadium, no Champions League, begging for a loan.... rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(briantwj @ Aug 7 2018, 06:47 PM)
So the problem was not Emenalo anyway, bobo Marina
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I kinda agree that. What's that dude that snubbed us for Monaco because of Emenalo? hmm.gif
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post Aug 7 2018, 08:26 PM

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QUOTE(jovigrunge @ Aug 7 2018, 08:23 PM)
I kinda agree that. What's that dude that snubbed us for Monaco because of Emenalo?  hmm.gif
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post Aug 7 2018, 08:41 PM

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post Aug 7 2018, 08:45 PM

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Kepa,kovacic and fekir rumours coming in thick and fast. Knowing our cheapskate board,butland,vecino and some random winger from Italy are all more likely.

I know I shouldn't get excited but DAMN IT I'M EXCITED NOW laugh.gif

Cheer up la u guys..why all the sudden doom and gloom?it's a new season,we aren't even in a relegation battle yet. Who's with me? biggrin.gif
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post Aug 7 2018, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(Kerplunk @ Aug 7 2018, 08:45 PM)
Kepa,kovacic and fekir rumours coming in thick and fast. Knowing our cheapskate board,butland,vecino and some random winger from Italy are all more likely.

I know I shouldn't get excited but DAMN IT I'M EXCITED NOW laugh.gif

Cheer up la u guys..why all the sudden doom and gloom?it's a new season,we aren't even in a relegation battle yet. Who's with me? biggrin.gif
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FYI, Chelsea transfer window started today
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post Aug 7 2018, 10:55 PM

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[Matt Law] Courtois confident his absence will get him what he wants with Real prepared to send Kovacic to Chelsea and the club investigating whether Kepa could replace him. £71m release clause the obvious hurdle. Butland and Rico still in frame for now.
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Sure buying kepa is a good choice? He still young and i dont think we gonna let young less exp player as first choice gk. Dont get me wrong, potential is there but with that price for a backup is not a good idea
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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Aug 7 2018, 08:48 PM)
FYI, Chelsea transfer window started today
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That's just the chelsea way! tongue.gif we're forever being that last minute panic student who never learns his lesson!lol

QUOTE(lol~ @ Aug 7 2018, 11:07 PM)
Sure buying kepa is a good choice? He still young and i dont think we gonna let young less exp player as first choice gk. Dont get me wrong, potential is there but with that price for a backup is not a good idea
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Oblak will set us back £89 million. Allison went for about £66 mill. Kepa's release clause is £71 million but he's 3 years younger than the latter. Oh and he'll definitely go straight to the starting line-up,no way we pay that kinda moolah for a benchwarmer. That's just the market these days man. Crazy is just putting it lightly!

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post Aug 7 2018, 11:33 PM

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[Alfredo Pedullà] Chelsea: Kovacic one step away. And the clause for Kepa, negotiation and decisive hours
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QUOTE(chitchat @ Aug 7 2018, 05:09 PM)
I dont think that is the case, more like contract is offered but player dont want to sign and there is nothing the board can do about it.

Same case like HAZARD, contract on the table and he is not signing. Let say u are the board, what are going to do now ? Sell him now and find replacement ? but is not easy to find a replacement of HAZARD caliber. Losing HAZARD might also means losing Top 4 champion league place next season.

RM only willing to paying 35m for COURTOIS which RA/board might feel they are prepare to lose 35m if is to keep the squad strength and get into champion league next season. Remember ALISSON cost 60m and i dont even rate him better than COURTOIS, so we need to pay a lot more to replacement someone as good as COURTOIS.

I kinda agree with SARRI, if he committed then keep him and let him leave for free end of season, but if he say he want to leave then just sell him to RM now. But since he do a AWOL, we might just throw him to reserve for a season as punishment. Anyway the fault is at player, contract should be respected.

For me, if a player at last year of contract and not willing to sign then just sell. But fans will rage when we sell our best player and fail to achieve target end of the season. Even a replacement is bring in, it could be hit and miss and fans have to remember we are moving to a self sustain club so we cant really sell HAZARD and replace with MBAPPE. That is even MBAPPE even want to come CHELSEA.
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First of all, it already well documented Courtois wanted to Madrid from the loan returned from A.Madrid. He purposely set high conditions to return by asking no.1 keeper. A contract should have “plus 1 year extension activate by the club” for those young players. With this condition, the players dare not go AWOL. The club should find replacement ASAP once the player already decided they like to transferin near future It should be some form of communication between players and board of directors where the player heart set to play in near future. The players decided to jump didn’t happened overnight. Maybe in Costa case is different cos when manager telling he no longer useful to him during holiday , it kind of insulting if it was me.

If we can’t find any comparable replacement and the players don’t want to sign the contract extension, just sell to highest bidder ASAP. Managing a club is still a business anyway, need to have surplus to have long term future. The club long term survivor and prosper is top priority. There should not have any personal vendettas against players who doesn’t wanted to be here especially Courtois case. Courtois and the board should have long solved this replacement before Courtois goes AWOL. I believe Courtois do have some heart feeling with Chelsea by asking for transfer and RM willing to pay top money for less than 1 years contract left player. RM can afford to wait for that extra 1 year and not paying a cents for it. It is stupid business decision if Chelsea really doesn’t sell Courtois now and set him free next season.

Hopefully next season won’t have this situation again with Hazard but I doubt the board have learned the lesson.

This post has been edited by Iceman74: Aug 7 2018, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE(Kerplunk @ Aug 7 2018, 11:29 PM)
Kepa's release clause is £71 million but he's 3 years younger than the latter.
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2 years

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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Aug 7 2018, 06:32 PM)
Alisson, was snapped up by a rival because you moved too slow, and other targets are either unrealistic like Oblak/Pickford or lacking quality like Butland.
Everton will be demanding a GK world record fee for Pickford. This is the worst time to get him coming off a good WC.
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I dont see CHELSEA will pay 60m for a GK. So ALISSON deal will not happen anyway. That why is hard to sell COURTOIS for 35m and then pay top dollar and buy a replacement which is not even as good.

Now i think BUTLAND is a good choice, at least value for money and can temporary solve our GK problem while we scout another CECH or COURTOIS.
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Aug 7 2018, 11:36 PM)
2 years

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Oops my bad. Anyway the kovacic rumours are everywhere now. I'd never imagine chelsea even being linked with him in this window!loan with an option to buy would be a fantastic deal imo.
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QUOTE(chitchat @ Aug 7 2018, 11:54 PM)
I dont see CHELSEA will pay 60m for a GK. So ALISSON deal will not happen anyway.
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But Kepa for 80 million Euros.

[Alfredo Pedullà] Sarri has studied the profiles of different goalkeepers to replace Courtois, and for 10 days now, he has focused on Kepa. Sarri considers him to be the perfect modern goalkeeper.

Basque journalist Aitor Pérez: 'Kepa is leaving Athletic Club. He has been spotted at the Bilbao airport to take a flight to Madrid. From there he'll fly to England'.

Kepa has just travelled to Madrid to pay his release clause (€80M) to the Spanish League Federation [Cadena Ser]

COPE : it is most likely that KOVACIC will be given a year to Chelsea without a purchase option.

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Last season with Costa, this season with Cortouis.

Damn I never hate any player from Chelsea so far. Even with Costa going awol last season. That was not his 100% fault. It was understandable since Conte didn't want him in the squad anymore.

With Cortouis this season the situation is different. He is acting like ungrateful bastard that think the clubs own him a transfer. Why dont he submit a transfer request then if he really want to go to Madrid.

That golden glove he won during the world cup was a fluke. I don't wish him good luck at all if he ever leaves us this coming days.

Let him rot in the reserve as punishment if he failed to materialise his move to Madrid.
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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Aug 8 2018, 12:04 AM)
But Kepa for 80 million Euros.

[Alfredo Pedullà] Sarri has studied the profiles of different goalkeepers to replace Courtois, and for 10 days now, he has focused on Kepa. Sarri considers him to be the perfect modern goalkeeper.

Basque journalist Aitor Pérez: 'Kepa is leaving Athletic Club. He has been spotted at the Bilbao airport to take a flight to Madrid. From there he'll fly to England'.

Kepa has just travelled to Madrid to pay his release clause (€80M) to the Spanish League Federation [Cadena Ser]

COPE : it is most likely that KOVACIC will be given a year to Chelsea without a purchase option.
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If it true, at least minus Courtois selling fee, it hurt less now than next season paying full 80million
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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Aug 7 2018, 11:35 PM)
First of all, it already well documented Courtois wanted to Madrid from the loan returned from A.Madrid. He purposely set high conditions to return by asking no.1 keeper. A contract should have “plus 1 year extension activate by the club” for those young players. With this condition, the players dare not go AWOL. The club should find replacement ASAP once the player already decided they like to transferin near future It should be some form of communication between players and board of directors where the player heart set to play in near future. The players decided to jump didn’t happened overnight. Maybe in Costa case is different cos when manager telling he no longer useful to him during holiday , it kind of insulting if it was me.

If we can’t find any comparable replacement and the players don’t want to sign the contract extension, just sell to highest bidder ASAP. Managing a club is still a business anyway, need to have surplus to have long term future. The club long term survivor and prosper is top priority. There should not have any personal vendettas against players who doesn’t wanted to be here especially Courtois case. Courtois and the board should have long solved this replacement before Courtois goes AWOL. I believe Courtois do have some heart feeling with Chelsea by asking for transfer and RM willing to pay top money for less than 1 years contract left player. RM can afford to wait for that extra 1 year and not paying a cents for it. It is stupid business  decision if Chelsea really doesn’t sell Courtois now and set him free next season.

Hopefully next season won’t have this situation again with Hazard but I doubt the board have learned the lesson.
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I believe is COSTA first flirting wanted to go back A.MADRID at jan transfer windows then a fallout with CONTE somewhere at the remaining of the season which lead to the text msg at the end of the season. I have no problem CONTE telling COSTA he is not in the plan next season but the problem is CONTE and the board are not in the same page. CONTE told COSTA before informing the board which did not give them time to get a buyer first. But COSTA AWOL is at least understandable at is a fallout with the coach.

Yes it might be a stupid business decision to let COURTOIS go free but is the footballing decision matter more as CHELSEA is a football club, playing in champion league definitely worth more than 35m loss as that will indirectly affect the club in attracting player to sign for us in the future. If is just business decision then we will be like previous ARSENAL keep selling their best player every season. I will prefer letting the coach/SARRI to decide, if a player is not committed, he will not want him in first eleven anyway then is better just sell.

I think same case will happen to HAZARD next season, sell him now for 100m (if that even is a real offer, all the while just rumour from the media) or cut price next season. If board decide not to sell then i hope HAZARD honour his last year contract and leave for free when it end with head held high. No bullshit AWOL, is a disgrace when player cant honour a contract he signed.

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QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Aug 8 2018, 12:04 AM)
But Kepa for 80 million Euros.

[Alfredo Pedullà] Sarri has studied the profiles of different goalkeepers to replace Courtois, and for 10 days now, he has focused on Kepa. Sarri considers him to be the perfect modern goalkeeper.

Basque journalist Aitor Pérez: 'Kepa is leaving Athletic Club. He has been spotted at the Bilbao airport to take a flight to Madrid. From there he'll fly to England'.

Kepa has just travelled to Madrid to pay his release clause (€80M) to the Spanish League Federation [Cadena Ser]

COPE : it is most likely that KOVACIC will be given a year to Chelsea without a purchase option.
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I still dont believe CHELSEA will pay 80m euro for a GK. Do come back and troll me when it happen biggrin.gif tongue.gif

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