verified, my friend paid a 1 year RRV, last year, but he manage to get back his 5 years after fulfilling the 1 year full stay lol.
waste of energy he said lol.

just came back from Victoria for holiday.
I am not about the salary there albeit i know is high over there, if it is about salary i would just go to Singapore, closer to home and better economy than Aussie as far as I can see.
i was having real dilemma whether to move there because i have an established business here. Now I am quite confirmed that I want to move there within the next 5 years before my PR expire.

When i reach Malaysia, open news so many racial conflict news.
one party ban people from celebrating xmas, earlier this year Chinese Dog Year issue.
Why are these happening? because people not scare to make claims when there is no heavy penalty to those scums. of course i can choose to ignore. but then again, some other people may get brain washed easily and soon, i feel so insecure for my children in future.

In aussie we get discriminated too, don't get me wrong, but then again, i have seen in my real eyes my Chinese friend made report to the council for the discrimination he get in his work place. the authorities took action and investigate.

I guess is personal preference. I like Malaysia because the business opportunity is better than Aussie, our cost to run business is low and better mass of target market compare to Malaysia. but then again, I can't clearly see how things are placed for future.

Has the minimum points gone up recently? I have 65 points in EOI for class 189, it’s taking forever to get invited.

The cut down the quotas a lot during 2018. But lately the last 2 months the quotas seem to have quadrupled compared to previous months, so finally I was invited after submitting my application in end 2017.

They went from 1000+ for 189 to 4000+, so the minimum scores came down a lot and the backlog can be processed. You can view the statistics from Skillselect.

i have seen their quota in skillselect website, seems min to be 70 points onwards. I have submitted in oct 2017, till now no invitation

migration plan actually postponed due to that tiny light in at the end of the long tunnel.

The minimum has been changed to 65, so all eoi with 60 lapses....

For prorata professions, invitations are given at 75 points....with a significant wait time....

For others, fast invited are at 70, immediate invite at 75....

http://www.iscah.com/will-get-189-invite-i...18-predictions/

thanks for the insightful link..it did says that applications for EOI at 65 points since Dec 2017 are unlikely before July 2019..my EOI was since Oct 2017..means no chance lah 2019

Are you in prorata profession, and what's your points?....what's your English points?....

Yup, in terms of net salary, and effective purchasing power, SG definitely win, due to the stronger SGD vs AUD, lower tax, cheaper groceries/food and close proximity to Malaysia. (Except maybe housing and car, but Syd and Mel house prices are crazy too)

Although, I must say that Aus will have better work life balance. But I think that comes at a cost of stronger workplace discrimination and glass ceiling in job promotions (of course this does not happen to everyone, it really depends on how well you assimilate to the whites)

This post has been edited by James1983: Dec 30 2018, 07:29 AM

Yes I agree.

You can earn more in terms of numberssss in Malaysia because of our weak currency compare to australia or even our neighbouring country like singapore.

However, if you are earning $10,000 in Australia, you are already basically living the life of a RM20,000 worker in Malaysia. This is because the standard of living in AU is much lower than in MYR. Easily take a trolly of grocery in AU will only cost you $90 max while in Malaysia RM90 can only get you half of basket the of grocery.

Another example is by comparing the iphone xs price both in Malayisa and AU in dollar to dollar terms. Which is cheaper? A freshie earning RM3k per month has to work 2 months to get the latest iphone xs but a freshie in AU has to only work a month to get one (assuming the freshie earns $3k per month too)

No way lol. Even my shopping for 1 week of groceries at Woolworths usually sets me back about 110 to 120. But it sure beats eating out in terms of price.

Earning 10000 a month in Aus in all honesty isn't much.

It's subjective depending on your lifestyle and how thrifty you are and how you make ends meet with your salary.

I spend frivolously so no matter how much I earn be it AUD 10k-20k a month, it will never be sufficient.

Whereas someone earning AUD3-4k a month can live a comfortable life even in Sydney while raising a family without the help of Centrelink.

PMed you

hmm..

I think 110 to 120 shopping is pretty good already. You definitely can't do it in Malaysia with that quantity of items you bought.

You sure this the same Australia we’re talking about lol?

In the 11 years I’ve been here the only time 120 will get you anything sizeable if you buy homebrand or black & gold branded shit.

My formula for buying power is a direct one to one conversion if you don’t include one off specifics (eg; I don’t buy tech goods every month). Like transport, food, insurance, taxes, fuel and other regular items.

I went for an exchange to Melbourne during my uni time last year. We usually spent around $110-130 per week on grocery for 4 people in the house. The amount of meat, vegetable and groceries (cookies, snacks, cooking oil, spaghetti, ice cream, milk etc etc) is alot bigger (XL) than what my family (4pax also) used to buy in Malaysia. Maybe because we take advantage of the weekly 1/2 price items by stocking up the necessary items that we need so that's why we saved alot for grocery? While you can't even get 1/2 price here back in MY.

Eating out is basically almost the same in terms of dollar to dollar (maybe slightly exp in Melb cuz no hawker store or zap fan) but their portion is much bigger in MY in some restaurant or most.

Parking wise is crazy expensive in the CBD compared to MY but you can always take the train and the tram. The weather in Melb will make you want to walk more on the street (except summer) compare to MY. Petrol is also cheaper if you pump the E10 rather than the unleaded one.

Houses there are pretty similar in terms of Dollar to Dollar wise but it can be cheaper if you plan to own a house in the suburb. The house I used to stay is in Clayton and it is super big bungalow with approx 12k sqf of land. Not sure about the price but I think I saw some ads advertising it for $2-2.5m?

TLDr: Melb has much higher buying power than MY.

Haha, if this is not better than MY I don't know what to say ler.

I think your exchange experience might be a little less relevant considering it wasn’t for long term and let’s face it, students have zero standards when it comes to groceries. When I was a student yeah, 120 dollars could buy food for 4 people I wouldn’t eat these days. Those were the days I could digest anything and would eat tuna sandwiches 3 times a day.

120 a week is for 1 person. Me. Not trying to overspend, just the usual at woolies. For 3 standard meals a day.

I think it’s easy for you to say because you were there as a student and not as a working adult. When you have to pucker your butthole up so Johnny ATO can come take his 47 percent for your paycheque, and then have the local council, state gov and so on have their turn with you, then we’ll talk

You find Melbourne ok because your expectation are consequently low. I try to keep mine at the same level as it was in Malaysia. Eg; I drove in Malaysia, I drive in Australia. I fueled 97 in Malaysia, I fuel 98 here. Only then can you consequently get an apples to apples comparison. I didn’t fly so far to lower my standards of living.

Thus my formula of 1:1 (you can stretch to a ratio of 1.4 depending on area) goes if you have a 15k ringgit a month job in KL and aren’t earning 15k aud a month within an acceptable amount of time. Migrating seems to be a waste of time and effort if you’re looking for an overall wealthier lifestyle.

TL;DR : You need to be more realistic and factor in the real costs of living versus a standardised expectations for quality of living. Coming here for exchange is nothing compared to me having to send Melbourne city council a cheque for 2.5 grand every year so they can help those African kids instead of having Vicpol shoot them

Majority, people that migrate to other country because of money... Where they can earn more and buy things that they couldnt afford to get while in their home country..
But mostly people that migrate end up with nothing because of their lifestyle... Also mostly they have low quality of life, especially the place where they live... They prefer to sleep in a room with 3 or 4 other people inside. They even use living room to set up a cubicle to sleep...
They earn and they spend since too much temptation which is hardly to control

Reason to migrate
1. Quality healthcare
2. Quality education
3. Higher living standard
4. No special policy of protection and treatment.