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Dilemma: PS4 or V12
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TSclj
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Apr 5 2018, 02:56 PM, updated 8y ago
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Im in dilemma to go for PS4 or V12. Price is RM460 and RM340 respectively in my area V12 might be more value for money but am not sure how much better is PS4 compare to V12.... not a spiritual driver and priority is safety Would like to have advises from sifus
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kevinlim001
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Apr 5 2018, 03:10 PM
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it will be great if u can share your tyre size and your car model. For V12 Fuel Efficiency :C/E Wet Grip: A External Rolling Noise: 70 db/ 71 db/ 72 db
For PS4 Fuel Efficiency :C/E Wet Grip: A External Rolling Noise: 71 db
have you check on the euro rating? is it the same? I pull out all the rating on the model but different size will have different rating so i am not sure about your size.
This post has been edited by kevinlim001: Apr 5 2018, 03:12 PM
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6UE5T
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Apr 5 2018, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE(clj @ Apr 5 2018, 02:56 PM) Im in dilemma to go for PS4 or V12. Price is RM460 and RM340 respectively in my area V12 might be more value for money but am not sure how much better is PS4 compare to V12.... not a spiritual driver and priority is safety Would like to have advises from sifus It's quite a simple decision actually. Just answer this question: do you have the budget for PS4? If you do then no need to think much, by all means just go ahead with PS4 coz it's well proven on average as the best tire in the market now. If the answer is no, then go with the V12E2 coz that's the best value for money available now in Malaysia (unless later we can find the new Falken FK510). I'm using the V12E2 now on my wife's car and I'm very happy with them, excellent dry performance, good wet performance, and low noise level too which is quite a rare trait for this type of tires (UHP). I'm yet to try PS4 but compared to PS3 which I'm also using now, I can really say the V12E2 is every bit as good if not better on the dry and lower noise! PS3 is probably only better than the V12E2 on aquaplaning resistance. So I don't think you would go wrong with choosing the V12E2 either. FYI, in the latest test by Car & Driver magazine the V12E2 even managed to beat the highly regarded Goodyear F1A3! In summary your decision lies on how much budget do you have?
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TSclj
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Apr 7 2018, 08:53 AM
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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Apr 5 2018, 03:10 PM) it will be great if u can share your tyre size and your car model. For V12 Fuel Efficiency :C/E Wet Grip: A External Rolling Noise: 70 db/ 71 db/ 72 db For PS4 Fuel Efficiency :C/E Wet Grip: A External Rolling Noise: 71 db have you check on the euro rating? is it the same? I pull out all the rating on the model but different size will have different rating so i am not sure about your size. Hi My size is 205/45/17 Seems like about the same rating for both
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TSclj
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Apr 7 2018, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Apr 5 2018, 08:02 PM) It's quite a simple decision actually. Just answer this question: do you have the budget for PS4? If you do then no need to think much, by all means just go ahead with PS4 coz it's well proven on average as the best tire in the market now. If the answer is no, then go with the V12E2 coz that's the best value for money available now in Malaysia (unless later we can find the new Falken FK510). I'm using the V12E2 now on my wife's car and I'm very happy with them, excellent dry performance, good wet performance, and low noise level too which is quite a rare trait for this type of tires (UHP). I'm yet to try PS4 but compared to PS3 which I'm also using now, I can really say the V12E2 is every bit as good if not better on the dry and lower noise! PS3 is probably only better than the V12E2 on aquaplaning resistance. So I don't think you would go wrong with choosing the V12E2 either. FYI, in the latest test by Car & Driver magazine the V12E2 even managed to beat the highly regarded Goodyear F1A3! In summary your decision lies on how much budget do you have? I’m ready to pay for the PS4. Bro, after read ur review on V12, I feel more difficult to choose haha I was using V12 evo1 before and I would say itz a best value for money just that very noisy due to the thread.
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amscouzach57
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Apr 7 2018, 09:38 AM
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Do you know where can I get a good price for hankook V12E2 in Shah Alam area?
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TSclj
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Apr 7 2018, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Apr 7 2018, 09:38 AM) Do you know where can I get a good price for hankook V12E2 in Shah Alam area? Sorry bro I’m not from KL
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regnox
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Apr 7 2018, 10:41 AM
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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Apr 7 2018, 09:38 AM) Do you know where can I get a good price for hankook V12E2 in Shah Alam area? Usj
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leehernandez
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Apr 7 2018, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Apr 7 2018, 09:38 AM) Do you know where can I get a good price for hankook V12E2 in Shah Alam area? which size
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nikkokl
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Apr 7 2018, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(kevinlim001 @ Apr 5 2018, 03:10 PM) it will be great if u can share your tyre size and your car model. For V12 Fuel Efficiency :C/E Wet Grip: A External Rolling Noise: 70 db/ 71 db/ 72 db For PS4 Fuel Efficiency :C/E Wet Grip: A External Rolling Noise: 71 db have you check on the euro rating? is it the same? I pull out all the rating on the model but different size will have different rating so i am not sure about your size. Any sifus here know the difference in rolling resistance between these 2 excellent tyres? Read somewhere v12 is highish.
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amscouzach57
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Apr 7 2018, 03:26 PM
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QUOTE(leehernandez @ Apr 7 2018, 11:26 AM) 195/50R15
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leehernandez
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Apr 7 2018, 07:16 PM
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QUOTE(amscouzach57 @ Apr 7 2018, 03:26 PM) find kok sport rim at section 25 rm 170
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amscouzach57
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Apr 8 2018, 05:44 AM
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QUOTE(leehernandez @ Apr 7 2018, 07:16 PM) find kok sport rim at section 25 rm 170 Thanks, will do
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6UE5T
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Apr 9 2018, 11:05 AM
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QUOTE(clj @ Apr 7 2018, 09:00 AM) I’m ready to pay for the PS4. Bro, after read ur review on V12, I feel more difficult to choose haha I was using V12 evo1 before and I would say itz a best value for money just that very noisy due to the thread. Well to me the V12E2 is not noisy anymore and it's also tested by Car & Driver Magazine for only 66db noise level which is very low already (normally even comfort silent tires are tested around 67-69db). Anyway since you have budget for PS4 then just go ahead try that coz it's widely regarded as the best tire now. Note though that during that test by Car & Driver Magazine, the PS4S was more noisy than the V12E2!
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TSclj
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Apr 9 2018, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Apr 9 2018, 11:05 AM) Well to me the V12E2 is not noisy anymore and it's also tested by Car & Driver Magazine for only 66db noise level which is very low already (normally even comfort silent tires are tested around 67-69db). Anyway since you have budget for PS4 then just go ahead try that coz it's widely regarded as the best tire now. Note though that during that test by Car & Driver Magazine, the PS4S was more noisy than the V12E2!  thanks bro! i think i will go for PS4
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6UE5T
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Apr 9 2018, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(clj @ Apr 9 2018, 11:31 AM) thanks bro! i think i will go for PS4 Excellent choice, have fun!
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sg999
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Apr 10 2018, 05:31 PM
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POOR Aquaplaning for V12
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6UE5T
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Apr 13 2018, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE(sg999 @ Apr 10 2018, 05:31 PM) Not based on my experience though. I'd not go as far as saying poor but still decent in that area. I know that you're comparing it to CPC2 which is a mid level tire with lots of water grooves in the tread hence quite understandable that the CPC2 would be better in aquaplaning resistance. In contrast the V12E2 has more bigger tread blocks which makes it good at ultimate dry grip which sacrifices a bit of the aquaplaning criteria. Note that aquaplaning is also just 1 criteria in wet performance, which is only evaluating it's behavior when going thru water puddles. There's also grip on wet surface when no water puddles which IMHO the V12E2 is still pretty good. Given the relatively cheap price of the V12E2 even compared to lower mid level tires like CPC2 and Primacy 3ST, I'd still say it's a very good buy for a UHP tire category. This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Apr 13 2018, 02:57 PM
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sg999
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Apr 15 2018, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Apr 13 2018, 03:55 PM) Not based on my experience though. I'd not go as far as saying poor but still decent in that area. I know that you're comparing it to CPC2 which is a mid level tire with lots of water grooves in the tread hence quite understandable that the CPC2 would be better in aquaplaning resistance. In contrast the V12E2 has more bigger tread blocks which makes it good at ultimate dry grip which sacrifices a bit of the aquaplaning criteria. Note that aquaplaning is also just 1 criteria in wet performance, which is only evaluating it's behavior when going thru water puddles. There's also grip on wet surface when no water puddles which IMHO the V12E2 is still pretty good. Given the relatively cheap price of the V12E2 even compared to lower mid level tires like CPC2 and Primacy 3ST, I'd still say it's a very good buy for a UHP tire category. and of course V12 is way more silent than CPC2
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6UE5T
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Apr 15 2018, 11:02 PM
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QUOTE(sg999 @ Apr 15 2018, 10:52 PM) and of course V12 is way more silent than CPC2  Yes, that too! So overall its still an excellent buy. I'm just waiting for the Falken FK510 to come to Malaysia and take over as the best value for money from the V12E2, otherwise the V12E2 is still the most recommended cheap and cheerful tire.
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