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post Dec 1 2020, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Dec 1 2020, 12:16 AM)
and some the asking price = a mercedes amg laugh.gif

i think it was a meridian.. the setup was RM600K hnghhhhh
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headphone la save wallet, rm2k or 3k can already have really good headphones. Can use a good sound card to drive it, or get dac and amp combo like schiit series that is not expensive too. Mine my motherboard alc1220 and the included built in amp can drive my 250ohm beyer well enough to get great details on treble, midrange and bass. Only thing is it still affected by power line buzzes like from washing machine...
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post Dec 1 2020, 07:10 AM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Dec 1 2020, 12:33 AM)
means your psu ripple supression not gao enough laugh.gif will affect gpu overclocking performance too buahahah
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it is not a bad psu leh, seasonic km3 based design
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post Dec 1 2020, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Dec 1 2020, 09:57 AM)
tidal you cant really control your playback output and filters and i feel their wasapi implementation sucks balls.

And especially regarding full file on memory buffering for lower latency playback etc.

Im exclusively on foobar and itunes ALAC. Super big difference to me eventhough it might be placebo.

To me streaming especially tidal is crap. Plus since i used to take hours on a plane or constantly work travel without reliable internet, a physical file library is sooo much better.

Plus if you use 3rd party to extract songs from tidal as flac to play on a better player, then it’s as illegal as donating to a private tracker or renting the CD from someone.
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how to access itunes alac, if using their apple music service or bought stuffs from itunes.
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post Dec 1 2020, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(Bonchi @ Dec 1 2020, 11:34 AM)
you cant. My alac are all CD rips or self converted from other lossless formats (magic of lossless files is you can convert to anything without loss) . So yeah. im not subscribed to apple music as well.

Anyways i notice these streaming site’s source are extremely “coloured” or the proper term would be mastered (lookup loudness war on google) as compared to CDs especially on older recordings. So nah... even a 16bit CD will trash those loudness maxed so called tidal 24bit imo.

And in nvidia gpu relevant analogy again.. this is literally native vs edit:nvidia overlay laugh.gif
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eh my experience is entirely opposite. Hard to find older CDs that's been mastered properly, too many of those CDs being ruined by the loudness war. I've seen the amplitude graphs of those tidal tracks and they were fine (for the songs that I deemed as high quality recorded and mastered anyways lel)
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post Dec 1 2020, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Dec 1 2020, 06:30 PM)
I actually not very like that headset, the sound not good enough for me, a bit flat, no  and I don’t have the LG mobile phone anymore.
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you meant the sennheiser HD518 headset? Understandable since it is considered in the lower-mid scale of headset.
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post Dec 1 2020, 08:08 PM

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Any news about 3060ti? Base 3060ti seems to have only 1x8pin PCI-E connector. My cousin want to pick up one haha, either that or 3060
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post Dec 2 2020, 12:11 AM

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3060ti is such a steal, it's eating into 3070's sales haha
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post Dec 2 2020, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(wolf1991 @ Dec 2 2020, 12:22 AM)
True as what you mention. Seem like no point to get the rtx3070 once 3060ti is out if supply was not an issues. It is worth to grab the 3070 if Nvidia release a new RTX3070ti with higher vram to replace the current rtx3070.
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oh, lowyat for article on the price of 3060ti. Apparently it is rm1880 not 1800. sounds more plausible now
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QUOTE(targon @ Dec 2 2020, 12:16 AM)
Those thinking of zotac 3060 can read the review at techpowerup.  Stupid card with no auto fan off and worse vrm than the reference card.
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another round of zotac bashing🤣
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post Dec 3 2020, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(thisisrazin @ Dec 3 2020, 04:04 PM)
it's all about perspective. Sure you can get a cheapo Zotac 3070 for the same price (or close to it), but a lot of people prefer to have premium branding and build even on a lower tier card. So to someone who is only looking at certain brands and models, the price is justifiable because they are not comparing a 3060ti Strix to a basic Zotac 3070 model, but instead a 3070 Strix.
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actually 3060ti strix vs cheaper 3070, which one is faster?

Just saw, even with 325watt power limit, after overclocking yo 2100+mhz also slower than 3070 in heaven.

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post Dec 3 2020, 05:43 PM

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msi ventus 2x 3070 sits at base msrp price of rm2399 while msi ventus 2x 3060ti sits at higher price of rm2099. The 3060ti that sits at the base msrp of rm1880 for MSI is the Twin Fan, smaller cooler, fans and less thick at 2 slots, maybe will be noiser than the ventus 2x. I feel better with the ventus 2x 3070 now haha, i do like the cooler and fans, although might be loud for others for the 2 fan config.
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post Dec 3 2020, 05:52 PM

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Sorry off topic, but where is intel thread in Hardware Clubs section? got leak ady the next i9 test sample scores very close to ryzen 5800x in both single and multicore. Very interesting to build around rtx3080/3090 system. The 10nm in the future is even more interesting.
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 3 2020, 07:40 PM)


After trying it out and even overclocking it for a bit, man ........

RM 1,999 with 90% (average) the performance of the RM RM2,599.00 card  cool2.gif After overclock already you can get up to 95% (Average) the performance some more!

Felt like Nvidia killing their own card, as if RTX 3070 Ti might be coming, and that this one is pre-empt RX 6700 if any!
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still got base rm2399 3070...
and the base 3070 can overclock a bit too...
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 3 2020, 07:45 PM)
I didn't compare cross brand la.

Yes got base 3070 at RM 2,399 and base RTX 3060 Ti at RM 1,899 even.

No matter how you look at it the performance is really close, no doubt just saying if one doesn't want to spend RTX 3070 amount they have options.

It's what people have been doing for ages. smile.gif
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at base price of rm2399 you can get MSI ventus 2X with not bad cooler of dual fans and thick heatsink, same rm1880 base price 3060ti has lesser sized cooler.

Not to mention over 90% of the games, an overclocked strix 3060ti at 325watts power limit can hardly reach 95% of base 3070 stock fps

Not to say 3060ti is a bad card, it's a very good priced card, but don't underestimate base price rm2399 3070 cards

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post Dec 3 2020, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Dec 3 2020, 08:18 PM)
That one goes without saying, clock the core and mem anyone wants but physical limitations are still there. RTX 3070 no matter how is the stronger card, just not the price to performance aspect.

That Strix you mentioned, are you referring factory OC or user OC?

I manually OC, can just reach around 95% mark and that also averaged. I can't do +200 core on the 3060 Ti with me, didn't spend too much time OCing either. Memory I went from +200 to +300 saw little to no difference.
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the strix is user oc, over 2100mhz
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Dec 3 2020, 08:41 PM)
I haven't try DLSS and Ray Tracing, for those who have done so, can you share your feedback? I am contemplating on getting either nVidia or AMD cards now. Seeing review videos from LTT, Jayz and Gamers Nexus, most of them saying getting the AMD ones are much more better. That's without RT and DLSS in the picture.
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no sense to go amd with their pricing in my anyways
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Dec 3 2020, 10:01 PM)
Finally my new monitor is arrived. biggrin.gif

Did some test and now I am freaking satisfied with the HDR output. No more over exposure issue.

VESA HDR certified is very important, monitor without VESA HDR certification is not meet the minimum HDR requirement and impact to the graphics output.

Below is some benchmark I just test it out, 3440x1440 resolution do impact some performance when compare with 2560x1440 resolution.

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haha my 3070 graphics score is 14200 on 2560x1440 with +100 core and +1000 memory (not redline oc) is 14200. Maybe you can refer to 1440p 3070 fps for your 1440p ultrawide rtx3080. 3080's score is slightly higher

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post Dec 4 2020, 11:04 AM

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I find that ampere cores are extremely efficient like others had been saying when you lower the power limit / voltage

I only lost 4.8% performance from going to 80% power limit (176watts from 220) in time spy. Made it on par with overclocked 2100+Mhz 3060tis (those draws like 250 or more watts).

Can hardly feel the difference in gaming since the Gsync made the movements in the screen so fluid.
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post Dec 4 2020, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(Melvin117 @ Dec 4 2020, 11:07 AM)
More like they are really bad overclockers and y'know, tuned to the max and it-just-works out of the box  icon_idea.gif

literally the apple products of GPUs
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The only ampere right now worth to seriously overclock would be the 3080s to chase 3090 since the price difference is too big, worthwhile to run up to 450watts for it. But like for 3060ti expensive models, not that worthwhile if you trying to chase the performance of 3070 by running super high power limit, those cards that has high power limits and/or big coolers do became expensive and too close to price with base priced 3070s. Best to go for close to 3060ti base price or close to 3070 base priced cards
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post Dec 4 2020, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Dec 4 2020, 11:13 AM)
i don't understand this part. if u put m.2 ssd into M2_1 and the original wifi adapter into M2_2 slot…you can't run at full x16 pcie lanes in gpu too?
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some boards like my asrock z370, if i put m.2 ssd into the m.2 slots, it'll disable 2 sata connectors for each of the m.2 slot used. It uses different lanes to connect to the CPU. His board didn't do it, no sata port disabled when he used the m.2 slots, and it actually ran using the same lane as the gpu uses and forced the gpu to share and lane and limited it to x8 instead.

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