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post Nov 28 2024, 08:52 AM

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https://www.techspot.com/article/2928-dont-buy-a-gpu-now/
"That said, there's a point at which discounts on existing models may make it worthwhile to buy now, even considering next-gen products. So, what kind of discount justifies an early purchase?

We believe the absolute minimum discount worth considering is 25% (from MSRP). This accounts for the potential performance shift introduced by a new generation.

Here's an example: suppose a next-generation RTX 5070 offers RTX 4070 Ti-level performance for the same $600 launch price as the RTX 4070. This would represent a "performance tier shift." To reflect that today, you'd want the RTX 4070 Ti, or potentially the RTX 4070 Ti Super, at no more than $600. The RTX 4070 Ti Super has an $800 MSRP, so a 25% discount would bring it down to $600."

Too bad its unlikely to see such discounts here, Msian distros very price resilient and would not sell below their comfy margin even if next gen coming soon. Somehow these high priced cards will just disappear from market to be replaced by equally high priced next gen GPUS, without a loss to the distros.

Mind you RTX4070 (nonSuper) MSRP is $549 which is RM 2440 so by right priced now should be Rm1830 to worth considering. Discount RM 100 is peanuts.

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Nov 29 2024, 01:23 PM)
I can rape my 1070 another extra year laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Dec 1 2024, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(adamtayy @ Dec 1 2024, 10:18 AM)
this even better..
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That 10% discount will kena makan by Kastams when bring in. You Black Friday, PMX also Black Friday lar.

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post Dec 4 2024, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Dec 4 2024, 10:55 AM)
is there a subforum for AI processing? Im struggling to run OmniGen on 3080 . 10GB RAM...

whats the highest RAM that is reasonably priced?
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7600XT 16GB or 4060Ti 16GB or used Quadros otherwise add 2nd 3080 10GB and hackjob NVlink

I think its good if you can start an AI subforum.
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post Dec 6 2024, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Dec 5 2024, 08:40 PM)
Btw if I can get 3090 24gb ard 3k ... Worth it for gaming and AI... Note it will be replacing the 3080 10gb
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A powerhog when 4070TI and TIS has better performance. The only thing going is the huge amount of VRAM for app use.
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post Dec 17 2024, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Dec 17 2024, 10:34 AM)
In what way?
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post Dec 17 2024, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(craxors @ Dec 17 2024, 10:49 AM)
nice.. it is time to menabung for 4090...  rclxm9.gif
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China will beat you to it...
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post Dec 17 2024, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(craxors @ Dec 17 2024, 01:30 PM)
what happen in china stay in china... no? bangwall.gif
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More like China will always get what they want and what they want is all the 4090 they can sapu globally.
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post Dec 18 2024, 02:14 PM

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https://www.techspot.com/news/105988-zotac-...y-16gb-rtx.html
While higher end continue to grow higher, midrange ie xx70 & xx60 tier will continue to disappoint, going up only 1 tier from predecessor, the 5070TI having same VRAM size as 4070TIS, the 5070 same VRAM size as 4070S, only difference is GDDR6/6X to GDDR7.

On the bright side, if Nvidia remain stingy as above, I see potentially AMD RX8000series competitively taking on 5080/5070TI, and Intel B780/770 taking on 5070/5060TI/5060. Being attacked from both team at each tier will hopefully give pressure to Nvidia to up their game and give a real gamechanger in 6000series.

I want to see 6060TI GPU a performance monster on same level as previous gen flagship tier 5080 as similar like what my 3060TI did (beating a 2080S!).
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QUOTE(overfloe @ Dec 18 2024, 04:41 PM)
the difference is in the local support and warranty. in term of performance, likely all 4070S will perform similar, however in term of cooling & noise, there are cards that perform better than other brands. if space is not an issue, get a 3 fans model. it'll run cool and quiet.

this comparison does not cover all cards available in the market, however it serves as a good reference: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/galax-ge...uper-ex/38.html

Zotac 4070S Super Trinity is quite balanced in term of price & cooling performance. Colorful is not in the list but i think it is not bad too.
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Also to add need to consider cooler size within same segment ie 3 fan cooler. There are smaller ones and reallllyy big ones. It didnt occur to me until recently in a Japan tech store display I saw a 4060 3 fan beside a 4080 3 fan and the bigger GPU is easily 20% larger size!
So need to be mindful how much space the GPU can fit into the case is also important.
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post Dec 27 2024, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(adamtayy @ Dec 27 2024, 10:49 AM)
faster go buy...

on par with b850 battlemage
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post Dec 28 2024, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Dec 27 2024, 09:15 PM)
Seems like internet is leaking RTX5080 price and its over USD1200... LOL

Goodbye pc gaming
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Err you forget that ori 4080 launch MSRP was ady $1200 way back then. It sold enuff waterfishes for Nvidia to consider a price drop only 1+ year after launch. 5080 will be the same too lar. Just dont buy and wait for 5080 Super or TI at lower $1000.

QUOTE(TristanX @ Dec 27 2024, 11:03 PM)
Just don't buy and price drop will come. Hopefully Intel makes something at that level and cut prices.
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Judging by B580 perf, its highly doubtful B780 will even come near to 5080 tier. Expect next gen Celestial to take that fight...if Intel can keep up the gen-to-gen uplift... and if it survives Intel BOD & new CEO.
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post Dec 31 2024, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Dec 30 2024, 08:43 PM)
Can skip upgrading my 4090 to 5090.. maybe get bonus next year upgrade lol
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Imho looking at the speculated specs, it looks like 5090 is the only GPU worthy to upgrade as it will have the most substantial hardware improvement over the previous 4090, unlike the 5080 (around 4090D perf), 5070 (around 4070 Supers perf). Then again the pricing seems will also receive a big bump.
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post Jan 2 2025, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(adamtayy @ Jan 2 2025, 04:33 PM)
WCCFtech is nearly as badly inaccurate as MLID. Wait for the launch 1st
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QUOTE(John Chaser @ Jan 4 2025, 12:58 AM)
Fuh...575W for 5090. I'm guessing board partners will bring it up to 600w.

Source videocardz.com
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QUOTE(TristanX @ Jan 5 2025, 02:15 PM)
5090 will cost arm and legs as well. Possibly RM11k.
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Like LV bags & ipong, if you sell off older highend GPU and upgrade to latest every cycle you wont feel that big a hit...
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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Jan 6 2025, 09:39 AM)
do u think 1000w psu enough for 5080 and 9800x3d? for atx and itx build....
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Without firm confirmation on 5080 power usage, hardly to say. But if its anywhere near 4090 then its fine as long as its just couple of years old.
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QUOTE(iZuDeeN @ Jan 6 2025, 12:14 PM)
just 5 yrs ago ppl think getting 1000w PSU is nonsense... nowdays 1000w psu  is only for mid tier gaming
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5080 is hardly midtier by any definition sweat.gif

But to correct you, 5 years ago a higher tier PSU is likely more than needed compared today as then RTX 3000series had infamous transient power spikes that requires PSU to be 50% to 2X the GPU official rated wattage in order not to shutdown.

IINM 4000series largely fixed this and a 4080 wouldnt need more power than a 3080 (which GN recos a higher wattage PSU!).

Why 1000W is needed now coz performance has improved but so is power usage.
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QUOTE(John Chaser @ Jan 7 2025, 10:48 AM)
Fuh, new jacket.

LMAO USD1999 for RTX 5090
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Syukurrrr... lucky 5090 wasnt $2500 as rumoured. So guys its a $500 discount! What a bargain! Time to go out an buy 1 or 2 right now before sold out!
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QUOTE(yshiuan @ Jan 7 2025, 11:24 AM)
5070 ti gotten cheaper, buy buy buy

I guess I will close my tered laugh.gif
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Looking at the TOPS count, Trump will have to repeal Biden high end AI GPU export ban to China as even 5070TI is above the TOPS limit.

For reference:
4090 - 1321 TOPS
4090D - 1177 TOPS (max limit exportable to China)

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