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Investment PANTAI SENTRAL PARK | SURIA PANTAI [RUMAWIP] [OT], RM275K Close By To Mid Valley City

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Kilohertz
post Aug 29 2018, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(pro-921 @ Aug 25 2018, 01:49 PM)
I personally think should go for Kondominium Kiara Kasih instead of Residensi Suria Pantai. KKK is a freehold project in Mont Kiara and RSP is a leasehold project at Pantai Dalam. KKK units come with balcony and RSP dont.
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Good point..plus it took a while for them to launch this project, not sure why.
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post Aug 29 2018, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(Kilohertz @ Aug 29 2018, 08:42 AM)
Good point..plus it took a while for them to launch this project, not sure why.
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It’s technically segambut dalam not considered mont kiara
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post Aug 29 2018, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Aug 29 2018, 09:06 AM)
It’s technically segambut dalam not considered mont kiara
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As long as it is named Kiara Kasih and not Segambut Kasih and I believe KKK is located less than 1km from Mont Kiara. The bottom line is I cant take a unit without a balcony.
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post Aug 29 2018, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(WK921 @ Aug 29 2018, 02:22 PM)
As long as it is named Kiara Kasih and not Segambut Kasih and I believe KKK is located less than 1km from Mont Kiara. The bottom line is I cant take a unit without a balcony.
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Yes I do agree with you on this. Balcony is super important to me. A condo without balcony is like living in a cage.
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post Aug 29 2018, 02:37 PM

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Kiara Kasih is near enough with mont kiara, add doesn't matter for me. Likewise bangsar south add also not written there bangsar south...balcony same for me, must think many2 times for those units with no balcony hehe
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post Aug 30 2018, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(springjfarm @ Aug 29 2018, 02:37 PM)
Kiara Kasih is near enough with mont kiara, add doesn't matter for me. Likewise bangsar south add also not written there bangsar south...balcony same for me, must think many2 times for those units with no balcony hehe
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I think for affordable or low cost category, no balcony means tenants cant simply throw rubbish out of window and landed on the street.
also nobody can parade their undies on the balcony.
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post Aug 31 2018, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Aug 30 2018, 09:22 AM)
I think for affordable or low cost category, no balcony means tenants cant simply throw rubbish out of window and landed on the street.
also nobody can parade their undies on the balcony.
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Totally agree! For affordable housing balconies are a big No-No! People will use it as storage area and put a lot of junk there, put ugly grills and start hanging laundry and garbage on it. Bang, in two months it looks like a squatter-camp.
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post Aug 31 2018, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(SofaSoGood @ Aug 31 2018, 12:55 AM)
Totally agree! For affordable housing balconies are a big No-No! People will use it as storage area and put a lot of junk there, put ugly grills and start hanging laundry and garbage on it. Bang, in two months it looks like a squatter-camp.
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Don’t generalize, not everybody that is buying rumahwip are low educated. For Kiara Kasih most of the people I met during ballot are first time home buyers which are college degree holders who just came out of college looking for their first home.
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post Aug 31 2018, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Aug 31 2018, 12:33 PM)
Don’t generalize, not everybody that is buying rumahwip are low educated. For Kiara Kasih most of the people I met during ballot are first time home buyers which are college degree holders who just came out of college looking for their first home.
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Sorry, I meant to support the buyers of Suria Pantai, since this is the SP thread. Both SP and KK sounds like good projects.
I agree it's likely most people will behave, but have a look at the balconies in low-cost flats. A night-mare!
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post Aug 31 2018, 06:29 PM

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QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Aug 31 2018, 12:33 PM)
Don’t generalize, not everybody that is buying rumahwip are low educated. For Kiara Kasih most of the people I met during ballot are first time home buyers which are college degree holders who just came out of college looking for their first home.
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Dun confused tertiary education with mentality.

They dun go to college to learn how not to hang undies in the balcony.

Also many bought for rent. You dunno how tenants react.
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post Aug 31 2018, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(SofaSoGood @ Aug 31 2018, 05:21 PM)
Sorry, I meant to support the buyers of Suria Pantai, since this is the SP thread. Both SP and KK sounds like good projects.
I agree it's likely most people will behave, but have a look at the balconies in low-cost flats. A night-mare!
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Why are we comparing rumawip with low cost flats? I thought those are different segments? I passed by a few completed rumawip projects with balcony and they look comparable to balconies of pv condos. Granted, I don't know what's the occupancy rate of those rumawips, but they are nowhere near 'nightmare'. And since you're comparing, have you look at low cost flats without balcony? They still find ways to parade their underwear by hanging them at the windows or grills.
I still think rumawip buyers should be looked from a better perspective though and not be compared to low cost flats and I hope I won't be proven wrong biggrin.gif
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post Aug 31 2018, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Aug 31 2018, 12:33 PM)
Don’t generalize, not everybody that is buying rumahwip are low educated. For Kiara Kasih most of the people I met during ballot are first time home buyers which are college degree holders who just came out of college looking for their first home.
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Apparently many people have such mindset.

Perhaps rumahwip or such house owners are even more educated and civilized than those other private projects owners, as mostly these projects are bought by fresh grads haha

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post Aug 31 2018, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(singgung @ Aug 31 2018, 06:39 PM)
Why are we comparing rumawip with low cost flats? I thought those are different segments? I passed by a few completed rumawip projects with balcony and they look comparable to balconies of pv condos. Granted, I don't know what's the occupancy rate of those rumawips, but they are nowhere near 'nightmare'. And since you're comparing, have you look at low cost flats without balcony? They still find ways to parade their underwear by hanging them at the windows or grills.
I still think rumawip buyers should be looked from a better perspective though and not be compared to low cost flats and I hope I won't be proven wrong biggrin.gif
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Rumawip is obviously not Low-Cost. At 300k it's bearly "affordable". But at the end of the day, you never know how the project will turn out or who will stay there. Especially if many chose to rent out. My point was from a risk avoidance perspective. I hope and believe that most Rumawips will be filled with smart and tidy owners, like you good people in here. But time will show how that actually works out...

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post Sep 1 2018, 12:16 PM

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Definitely, condominium with price of RM300k is not considered as low cost project. At most we can call it afforable housing in KL prime area. Most of the successful applicants for Kiara Kasih will have to fork out RM30k to make the downpayment unless they manage to get 100 % loan, low cost housing? Definitely not.
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post Sep 2 2018, 06:59 PM

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Found this page in Facebook where we can see some site photos of KKK

https://m.facebook.com/KiaraKasihCondominium/
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QUOTE(SofaSoGood @ Aug 31 2018, 05:21 PM)
Sorry, I meant to support the buyers of Suria Pantai, since this is the SP thread. Both SP and KK sounds like good projects.
I agree it's likely most people will behave, but have a look at the balconies in low-cost flats. A night-mare!
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For your info, low cost flats in the market today do not come with balcony. An easy way to identify a flat / apartment whether is low cost or medium cost status is to spot for balcony.
If got balcony, then it is not low cost status. If no balcony, then it can be low cost or medium cost status.
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I thought low cost flat in general cannot sold for over 45k per unit.

any price above is mid to low cost flat, including 5storey walk up apartments.
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post Sep 5 2018, 07:13 PM

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all the pr1ma, rumawip, ppa1m some got balcony & some no balcony. so balcony is not an indicator in this case, and l agree, sekali need to fork put 30k is hardly low cost or affordable. those who can no need to look at this range of houses. if not withdrawing from kwsp or personal loan, say if can save 1k per month also must take 30 mths. and for that 30 mths must pray hard rumah tak bocor, kereta tak buat hal, and family members all sihat sejahtera huhu
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QUOTE(springjfarm @ Sep 5 2018, 07:13 PM)
all the pr1ma, rumawip, ppa1m some got balcony & some no balcony. so balcony is not an indicator in this case, and l agree, sekali need to fork put 30k is hardly low cost or affordable. those who can no need to look at this range of houses. if not withdrawing from kwsp or personal loan, say if can save 1k per month also must take 30 mths. and for that 30 mths must pray hard rumah tak bocor, kereta tak buat hal, and family members all sihat sejahtera huhu
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If one really feeling so hard to cushion with 30k, then it is a real affordability issue. Not encourage to buy as it may not be sustainable.

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