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post Apr 9 2007, 04:57 PM

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Nokia N95 faced off against Walkman range by Sony Ericsson

We it comes to comparing products, then the market's best solutions should serve as the benchmark, and as of today, Sony Ericsson branded offerings top the music market. It is important to understand that Nokia is a runner-up on the music front, but has managed to make a major leap up in a short time span. See for yourself:

* Various ways of plugging in headphones - jacks on casings and remote controls. Though Sony Ericsson allows for connecting custom earphones only via the headset. In future more 3,5 jacks in Nokia's products will make the things look much worse for Sony Ericsson.
* It's a draw when it comes to PC software - Windows Media Player is supported by both companies, as well as extra original applications for getting music onto phones.
* Comparable number of equalizes and settings.
* Album Arts and visualization support in both cases
* Categorization by artists, genres, etc.
* Support for miniUSB in Nokia N95, which is a big plus. Proprietary cables are not always handy, since not just about everybody owns one
* A2DP implementation is a touch superior on Sony Ericsson' offerings, more accessories work without any malfunctions
* Bundled headphones are better in Sony Ericsson's packages
* Number of extra accessories is even, both companies offer Music Stand
* Sonic experience - the centerpiece, where Sony Ericsson branded products are dominating. Regrettably, Nokia N95 puts up average sound quality, aimed at unsophisticated users.


Added on April 9, 2007, 4:58 pm
QUOTE(fair-pley @ Apr 9 2007, 04:56 PM)
^ This is wat happen when ppl want to get their own N95 but couldnt. Anyway dont reflect my statement to others..Its special nasi lemak 4 u.
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this is what happen when ppl own the "current" "coolest" "expensive" N95,
it makes u evil doh.gif

yeah..i couldnt.. sad.gif look at my sig..its full. cannot fit another N95 yawn.gif

dude,its only N95 ..ok? shakehead.gif
Air suam for you.. laugh.gif although i donno what u meant

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QUOTE(fair-pley @ Apr 9 2007, 05:12 PM)
haih...stop this nowhere arguement. Please stick to current objective.

Btw im not really excited to get this N95 since my current goal is to get a good PDA. Since N95 got GPS, then i get it. Serioulsly to say, later i will sell this baby as my others phone  laugh.gif  So there is no evil here...
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QUOTE(Shinichi @ Apr 9 2007, 05:42 PM)
oh, maybe for you n95 is bigger than n73, but for me n95 looks a lil bit smaller than n73 tongue.gif

I dont think I can get both, only can choose either one...
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but its definitely lighter than n95..iianm..

If u dont mind 2nd hand..maybe u can buy from that guy up there.. laugh.gif


Added on April 9, 2007, 6:35 pm
QUOTE(iRonTech @ Apr 9 2007, 06:25 PM)
eh...how is N95 5MP AF quality??

also the speaker Sound Quality?? good ah?? vs N73?? W850i?
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before anyone answer you..(bcos it takes time)
why dont u read the reviews below..
it might answer some of ur Qs..

http://www.mobile-review.com/review/nokia-n95-music-en.shtml

http://www.mobileburn.com/review.jsp?Id=3283&source=HOMETOP

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/features/it...Impressions.php



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QUOTE(Shinichi @ Apr 9 2007, 06:53 PM)
Huh, you mean someone is selling used n95? Even someone is selling N95 at very cheap price, I dont think I have enough money to get it also... my n73 still in nokia service center... they need 2 weeks to fix my n73 mad.gif
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Someone la..not so fast i guess..still active here.. smile.gif
N73? 2 weeks? omg..hey did they provide u a temporary phone?
bcos i heard this service long time ago..


Added on April 9, 2007, 7:06 pm
QUOTE(minde @ Apr 9 2007, 06:50 PM)
not only that , Nokia 95 also comes with Orientation Sensor . Kinda old news to some  but new to me . When u take pic whether in portrait or landscape , the next time u see in gallery , both picture will be shown with the orientation adjusted based on your viewing mode.
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you mean this?

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One of the more interesting aspects of the camera is the built-in orientation sensor that allows the user to take landscape or portrait mode photos just by holding the N95 horizontally or vertically - no menu access required. It is not fool proof, however. Sometimes the orientation sensor appears to get stuck in the default landscape mode, and there is no way to tell if it is working or not since the settings icons remain on the same edge of the display regardless of the orientation


http://www.livingroom.org.au/cameraphone/a..._mobileburn.php

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QUOTE(fair-pley @ Apr 9 2007, 09:30 PM)
Maybe u can try Malsing.com. But i never try downloaded it since currently Asiamaps isntalled in d phone edy good enuf.
Hahaha. This is my bad attitude. Alwayz change n selling phone.  sweat.gif But with my new job situation now, maybe i will look for PDA. Laptop really a big No for me  laugh.gif  Oops off topic..
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not only u i guess..just look at Garage Sales..EVERYDAY got some people wanna sell their almost brand new phone.. laugh.gif
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Added on April 10, 2007, 11:34 am
QUOTE(Shinichi @ Apr 10 2007, 10:15 AM)
But the Nokia service center in Penang told me beforehand they need 2 weeks for the phone being fixed cause they will send it to KL to fix... guess NSC in Penang was unable to fix the problem hence they need to send down to KL... guess this is the con of not living in big cities tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Shinichi @ Apr 10 2007, 11:23 AM)
wah, seems like its difficult for me to do so... never being mean to someone that I don't know sweat.gif

I dont really know hows their procedure...  last time when using SE they also need 2 weeks to send phone down to KL to fix... now Nokia also same... cause when I pass the phone to them, they already told me need 2 weeks... what if they dont want to fix my phone cause I don't allow them 2 weeks to fix the phone? I think need you all sifus here to guide me to be mean tongue.gif
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NSC cannot fix? what major problem is that?
Send all the way to KL? wow..wonder how they pack ur N73.. hmm.gif
You better double check for any cracks when u get it back laugh.gif
The 2 weeks period they given u is the MAX they need to repair i think..
most probably they can get it done by 2 weeks..who knows..

In this kinda case, when ur beloved phone is in their hands, there nothing much u can do but wait..u keep pushing them or show them who is the boss, they might get pissed and purposely take longer time to fix u phone by tellin u they need to check this this this or that that that ...and u never know its true or not.. laugh.gif

so..just wait thumbup.gif patience is a virtue. wink.gif IF its not urgent nod.gif

oops..isnt all these a bit OT hmm.gif

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Edited Summary.
Courtesy of gizmodo.com


Why Nokia's N95 Sucks:

1. Battery: No matter what anyone says, the battery life on the N95 isn't good. You can justify it by considering how much power true GPS, WiFi, and those booming speakers take. Even turning off 3G access, as you won't find reception in the US, the phone will be begging for DC after an 18 hour day of moderate/heavy use.

2. Laggy OS: I don't know whether to blame Symbian or Nokia, but I don't really care, who's fault it is: This phone is sluggish.
5. Hardware Feels Junky:Two words: Fisher Price. They should have packed these components into a denser package. The world's most powerful handset is also the thickest modern phone without a QWERTY. But consider all it does, and the fact that its still pocketable, and you can over look its rather portly 0.8 inch thickness. Full hardware rundown here.

3. Price: As Mark from Laptop Mag said to me, "$750 (RM3XXX) is the price of a laptop!"

why Nokia's N95 Rocks:

1.GPS: The GPS is really GPS, not some assisted-GPS that Sprint and Verizon have in their phones. That means you can really navigate with it, like I did, to streets around SF I wasn't too familiar with.

2.Camera: I detect a decent level of grain in these 5mp shots, and the shutter lag is horrendous, but WTF, it's a 5mp camera with a Carl Zeiss 2.8/5.6 autofocusing lens in a phone. There are great controls for ISO, white balance, sharpness, contrast, and flash. And video comes in at 640 by 480 at 30fps. Not shabby. And the editing programs are powerful, especially the photo editor's clip art feature.

3. Lifeblog:
Like other N-series phones, this one can post any text/video/image you take with the phone to a blog. I'm addicted to this. This can be done through the Lifeblog software, which will combine text and images into a blog post on Typepad. The phone will send pictures Flickr's API, too. (And via Flickr's blog API, can send photos to most other blog ware.) Right now, Vox is the only site that will accept automated upload videos. But I'm willing to bet there's even a youtube uploader out there, considering the Symbian OS's dev community.

4. Media Playback:
The mp3/video player is fairly straight forward, and that's why I like it. The speakers are unreasonably loud, in a good way, for a device of this side -- as loud as the Samsung K5 with external speakers -- and there's an EQ as well as visualizations. File support includes MP3/WMA/M4A, and AAC support for those soon to be unlocked iTunes/EMI files. The media playback buttons aren't the easiest to press, but they add to the simplicity and dedication this device has to AV. Add in support for Podcasts, even those of the video variety, and you're talking. (MPEG-4, H.264/AVC, H.263/3GPP, RealVideo 8/9/10)


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QUOTE(iRonTech @ Apr 10 2007, 01:13 PM)
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LOL......  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

"iRonTech" would say :- is Symbian or Nokia built poor battery life? tongue.gif
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i dont really understand ..
They surely did loads of research n trial on the N95 bfore its launch right..
but then why didnt they notice the battery life problem?
Something so powerful with so little "power"..doesnt make sense.. rclxub.gif

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QUOTE(Survivor @ Apr 10 2007, 01:33 PM)
Well...my N95 batt was left with 1 bar yesterday morning before i went to work...then i made a few calls, send a few sms, play with a few applications along the day, then until 10pm yesterday night only the N95 batt ran completely flat....the 1 bar batt life sustain from morning until night...for 15 hours...not bad ma... thumbup.gif
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or could it be something wrong with the battery bar?
supposed to show 4 bars..instead its showing 1 bar ? have u tot of it that way?

like my rclxub.gif n8800, showing 1 bar..then no batt. then i turn back on.. 3 bars..and surviving. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(StratOS @ Apr 10 2007, 01:44 PM)
er.. i think its a bad thing to let ur phone off when the battery completely flat out.. coz it may damage ur phone i think.. i would still recommend u have it charged when the signal is out..
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its bad? i tot u gotta make it flat to charge it full? or is it for the first charge only?
both my n8800 batt is shite already..cant last..err...can the siroccos batt runs on n8800? u know?anybody?
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QUOTE(StratOS @ Apr 10 2007, 02:05 PM)
when i juz get terus charge it full 8 hours while switched off la.. after tat then use.. last time oredi a few time i let my phone battery(toshiba tx60) run flat out meaning the phone off itself, the battery life span will get shorter ler.. suppose can tahan 2-3 days then now only half a day liau..
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first time use..i always use until flat... then charge for 12hours..
around first 5 times doing the same thing.. laugh.gif

battery sure have a lifespan.. depends on how u take care of it...like human biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Shinichi @ Apr 10 2007, 02:35 PM)
1 thing I don like about Nokia is the battery bar not that accurate... SE has better battery info cause it shows how many % of juice still left in battery... but for Nokia, it maybe be in full bars for a long time and then drop drastically to one bar in a short time...
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QUOTE(StratOS @ Apr 10 2007, 02:38 PM)
Motorola Battery bar most untrusted 1.. honestly.. unless ur sure urself.. suddenly will drop from 100% to 1 bar only... laugh.gif Nokia 1 also same but better than Moto i think.. SE is best.. the Percentage is a big deal there..
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ya..i like SE battery meter ..very convenient.. at least u can est. how many % means how many talk time left.. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Shinichi @ Apr 10 2007, 02:43 PM)
yaya, I agree with you too... SE has better battery info than Nokia smile.gif

saw someone selling his n95 at garage sales... tempted to get it... but no money now sweat.gif
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so fast? see... i told ya..theres always this "someone" biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Apr 11 2007, 04:56 PM)
someone actually having a fight with his gf
and the victim is the bf's Nokia N95

do you believe it?

and worst thing is

the N95 that worth more than RM3,000 has become a piece of junk

as, it is broken into ... errmm, two  sweat.gif
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well, relationships are priceless.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(kelvin9986 @ Apr 11 2007, 05:34 PM)
doh.gif sweat.gif
there goes the 3,000.
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either the chic is very strong or n95 is too fragile?
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QUOTE(sonic_cd @ Apr 11 2007, 06:59 PM)
i`ll go with phone fragile .lol , u planning to get one ?
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not really. too hot to handle.. laugh.gif


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QUOTE(shipal @ Apr 11 2007, 08:56 PM)
Can this camera phone tahan, if fall on the floor?

My ixus camera in the pouch, cannot tahan a simple fall.... LCD screen always KO
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does this answer ur Q? laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif wink.gif

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QUOTE(kelvin9986 @ Apr 11 2007, 10:04 PM)
Should be fragile gua unsure.gif
Second that wink.gif
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should be the slider mechanism part... shakehead.gif

QUOTE(StratOS @ Apr 11 2007, 10:08 PM)
mine loose like my old nk 6280 ar.. can press and have the 'ingk~' sound oredi.. doh.gif
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laugh.gif like my 6288..u can even make the "ingk..ingk" tune out of it.. laugh.gif laugh.gif
i totally understand how u feel.. nod.gif


Added on April 11, 2007, 10:38 pm
QUOTE(minde @ Apr 11 2007, 06:56 PM)
called 3 nokia care centres.  They say the loose slider is normal likewise with the N80. So i dont think its factory fault ?
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Its not the factorys fault then who is the one to blame?

its either manufacturing error.. OR its meant to be like that..

like i said..i ask them to check my 6288.. they told me ITS LIKE THAT

Why dont NOKIA use the 5300 slider mechanism in all the slider phone..
imo,thats the most well built, tough, stable slider from nokia..with a lil spring somemore..

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QUOTE(Shinichi @ Apr 11 2007, 10:45 PM)
how about E65's slider? now im considering between e65 or n95...
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The slider mechanism is very solid and there is a nice clunk as you slide it up or down. The keypad and slider runners are metallic, with the keys themselves made from hard plastic. They keys are a good size, although look a little cramped.
http://philstar.com/philstar/BUSINESS200704024102.htm

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The slider mechanism is very solid and there is a nice clunk as you slide it up or down; it is a definite improvement over other Nokia smartphone sliders such as the N80 or N95. The keypad surround and slider runners are metallic, with the keys themselves made from a hard plastic.


http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/reviews/item/Nokia_E65.php

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All that is left to need is the numberpad and when you slide the phone upwards, the spring loaded mechanism delivering a solid feel and satisfying click,
http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/March07/4472.htm

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半自動滑蓋,前天買,到目前為止使用滿意,組裝扎實遠勝過Nokia之前出過的所有滑蓋機。芬蘭廠做的果然比MIC來得好上許多!


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完全同意!!明顯比之前出過的Nokia滑蓋機好太多..


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滑蓋跟組裝也都很結實


http://www.phonedaily.com/talk/?prod_id=2612&tid=3225601&Page=72

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诺基亚的滑盖技术在6111,6270,6280等早期滑盖机上是个探索的过程,.如今金属质感的E65滑盖技术非常成熟,手感非常棒


http://article.pchome.net/scripts/market_article.php?id=63954

1. semi auto slider mechanism, satisfied with it. The slider mechanism is lot more sturdy than the previous models. Made in Finland really is better than those Made in China

2. Totally agree..obviously its better than the previous slider models

3. Slider and the build quality is good.

4. Nokia slider mechanism is at a "beginners" stage for 6111,6280,6270. You can see the improvement in the E65s metal slider mechanism, very sturdy n well built.




Conclusion : E65 doesnt have any slider problem. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(Shinichi @ Apr 12 2007, 12:27 AM)
yalo... why they give such bad build to n95... if not i'm sure n95 will have more buyer... now still consider either get n95 as my main phone or e65 as my 2nd phone... too bad I cant own both... tongue.gif

rayzrblade: thanks for the research that you've made regarding e65's slider. Thanks a lot notworthy.gif but for me, e65 only good as a 2nd phone for me, not as main phone sad.gif
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then ur choice is obvious already .. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Shinichi @ Apr 12 2007, 12:47 AM)
well I'm still deciding between both... if N95 has better build quality and better battery life, then I'm 110% sure will get it...

and there are also some factors that prevents me from getting e65, very low video recording resolution, missing front camera, poor back camera, unable to view full screen video, mono speaker... but it sure is the smallest and slimmest wifi phone afaik, very pocket-able, suitable to use as 2nd phone tongue.gif
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tough decision.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Intrigue @ Apr 12 2007, 10:23 AM)
nothing is perfect~ totally nothing is perfect in this world. U cant have the best of both world ~ it is reality!
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bcos humans aint perfect, thus the products that they design/ make, aint perfect as well. nod.gif

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