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sonic_darkknight
post Mar 9 2018, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(jagjag @ Mar 9 2018, 11:44 AM)
Apart from item 1 & 4, i did not notice any of this sign. Maybe i'm not good in recognizing all this symptoms ..
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That means you are probably having an outer CV joint problem, if you can experience all means your whole driveshaft totally kaput d....which is highly impossible to have such occurrence at one time. another logical reason would be if you are doing rally jumping earth bund all the time sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Mar 9 2018, 12:53 PM

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I've crack boot covers too... solution.. 3D print TPU fixing parts...
TSjagjag
post Mar 9 2018, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(sonic_darkknight @ Mar 9 2018, 12:37 PM)
That means you are probably having an outer CV joint problem, if you can experience all means your whole driveshaft totally kaput d....which is highly impossible to have such occurrence at one time. another logical reason would be if you are doing rally jumping earth bund all the time sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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Haha...to be frank i can consider myself a careful driver and no doubt i'm a car lover...9 out of 10 ppl when saw my car, they will tell that i really take good care of my car..anyway that's the outlook only lah.
Mechanical wise, i really no good in that but for all the close to 7 years of ownership, i only sent to sc for services except changing tyres i sent to outside workshop.
TSjagjag
post Mar 12 2018, 09:59 AM

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Hi all..just some updates on my problem...goin to a workshop recommended by a fren and he confirmed its the drive shaft boot 'koyak' but unfortunately they don have the tools to replace it.
So i went to another workshop and immediately they saw the same problem. In fact after inspecting its the inner boot which is teared. The boot itself costing RM 78 only but they need to re-grease it and also once we dismantle the parts, the gear oil will leak and need to replace.
Also after that need to do balancing and re-alignment as well as the cambering.
So once everything add in..the bill come up to RM438.
Compare to Toyota sc, they told me the drive shaft parts olede cost RM500++, so i guess with all the added item..guess how much it will end up to.
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post Mar 12 2018, 04:00 PM

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Agree that RM500 should be the boot only if it is from dealership service center.

I remember it cost arpund rm400 for one side, vios, China made, if you source locally.
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post Mar 12 2018, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(jagjag @ Mar 12 2018, 09:59 AM)
Hi all..just some updates on my problem...goin to a workshop recommended by a fren and he confirmed its the drive shaft boot 'koyak' but unfortunately they don have the tools to replace it.
So i went to another workshop and immediately they saw the same problem. In fact after inspecting its the inner boot which is teared. The boot itself costing RM 78 only but they need to re-grease it and also once we dismantle the parts, the gear oil will leak and need to replace.
Also after that need to do balancing and re-alignment as well as the cambering.
So once everything add in..the bill come up to RM438.
Compare to Toyota sc, they told me the drive shaft parts olede cost RM500++, so i guess with all the added item..guess how much it will end up to.
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Firstly, Toyota SC in Penang also quoted me a rough estimation of RM400-plus for one boot replacement for my old Vios (I assumed it included workmanship, but I didn't ask). Yes, just for changing the rubber boot. I've bought original boots for other Toyota cars and they are not cheap although they appear to be made from rubber. In addition, the original boot kit also has the clips (iirc) and the grease needed to re-grease the joint.
When we do at outside mechanic, chances are they will use any grease they have in their shop and they may not clean the joint section properly. Coupled with some dirt trapped there you might see accelerated wear and tear - especially if the boot has been sheared off and you have already lost all the grease in the first place.

Having said that, I changed mine at outside workshop for RM100-plus. There are two ways to do it. One is to take out the drive shaft from the gb connection. This is where you will lose your ATF and you need to top it up back. Many shops will store this drained ATF in a container to be re-used (whether you are particular with the cleanliness of the stored oil is up to you). The other way is to use a "spreader" to stretch the boot so that you don't need to dismantle the drive shaft if you are replacing the outer boot.

Your bill seems a little too high, even if you factor in the wheel alignment job and the ATF.
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post Mar 13 2018, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(mushigen @ Mar 12 2018, 11:32 PM)
Firstly, Toyota SC in Penang also quoted me a rough estimation of RM400-plus for one boot replacement for my old Vios (I assumed it included workmanship, but I didn't ask). Yes, just for changing the rubber boot. I've bought original boots for other Toyota cars and they are not cheap although they appear to be made from rubber. In addition, the original boot kit also has the clips (iirc) and the grease needed to re-grease the joint.
When we do at outside mechanic, chances are they will use any grease they have in their shop and they may not clean the joint section properly. Coupled with some dirt trapped there you might see accelerated wear and tear - especially if the boot has been sheared off and you have already lost all the grease in the first place.

Having said that, I changed mine at outside workshop for RM100-plus. There are two ways to do it. One is to take out the drive shaft from the gb connection. This is where you will lose your ATF and you need to top it up back. Many shops will store this drained ATF in a container to be re-used (whether you are particular with the cleanliness of the stored oil is up to you). The other way is to use a "spreader" to stretch the boot so that you don't need to dismantle the drive shaft if you are replacing the outer boot.

Your bill seems a little too high, even if you factor in the wheel alignment job and the ATF.
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Thanks for the clarification...and yes, the risk of doin it at outside workshop i'm aware of it but since we already more or less confirmed that toyota sc will for sure cut our throat, i left no choice. But also i don have a reliable workshop to go with. The one that i did is actually i've known them for very long but also i know their price is bit higher compare to others.
I've tried the one my friend recommend but as i said they can't replace it for me...
Others recommended is too far from my place so no choice back to my this 'old' workshop. It's very near and also very friendly with me. sweat.gif sweat.gif
Now i can only hope that the problem won't reoccur..keep my finger cross
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post Mar 14 2018, 01:38 PM

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500 also cant pay when driving altis, my turbo gone case also settle rm5k no problem
sonic_darkknight
post Mar 14 2018, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(DigitalMop @ Mar 14 2018, 01:38 PM)
500 also cant pay when driving altis, my turbo gone case also settle rm5k no problem
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I see someone is here to boast his wealth? rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
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post Mar 15 2018, 09:52 AM

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Haha..boasting wealth of 5000...better find a better place than here...
I only drive a Altis ..with installment of 3 years not cash ( poorer than you )
I'm not rich for sure nor i'm poor..but i'm wise enough not simply burn 500 away if i have the chance to save some of it...cheer
BTW for all the good advise from all the other K, i have to say THANK YOU...and i'm really appreciate your help ...
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post Mar 15 2018, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(jagjag @ Mar 15 2018, 09:52 AM)
Haha..boasting wealth of 5000...better find a better place than here...
I only drive a Altis ..with installment of 3 years not cash ( poorer than you )
I'm not rich for sure nor i'm poor..but i'm wise enough not simply burn 500 away if i have the chance to save some of it...cheer
BTW for all the good advise from all the other K, i have to say THANK YOU...and i'm really appreciate your help ...
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if you so wise you either get a axia or take bus 11 la
delphine.88
post Oct 15 2023, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(sonic_darkknight @ Mar 9 2018, 11:28 AM)
Drive Shaft if damaged got few symptoms:
1) outer CV joint drive shaft - while U turn got vibrate and noise
2) inner CV joint drive shaft - while starting moving dead stop sometimes can feel jerk and noise and vibration when travelling fast on highway say 90km/h and above
3) the shaft itself - if bended due to strong impact also vibration during high cruising at highway say 90km/h
4) CV joint boot - when the boot first started to torn you will start to experiencing hearing some grinding noise while driving but no jerk or vibrate when turning but as time goes by the those jerky and vibration symptom will get more noticeable cause water and sand will enter into the CV joints and the grease will leak out.

My foreman told me Best is to change to those silicone based CV joint. more durable and more resistant to chemical attack when come into contact with all sorts of lubricants.
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Sifu, if during idle I turn my steering wheel to the right (consider sharp turn) and then step on pedal gas lightly, I can feel something “loose” from car undercarriage. And of coz with some weird sounds too. Is this also drive shaft?

 

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