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post Mar 8 2020, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(KnightFox @ Mar 7 2020, 01:27 PM)
yip .... switch lubing and spring upgrade to some say insane 160g springs.... but i love it.... xD

in addition wanted to add foam on the back of the keyboard and change the stabliser to a different different sorts .... but it not easy as it seems as u need to bend some pin on the board to change the stabliser .... ended up .... let it rest for a while xD
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The Tecware uses standard plate-mount stabilisers, you can swap the stabs without removing the plate/top chassis, just need to remove the switch.
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post Apr 3 2020, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(reenoo @ Apr 3 2020, 01:10 PM)
Hello everyone, newbie here, just bought the IDOBAO ID80 kit, but finding it quite difficult to find the right keycaps for me =(. I want a nice black set in SA profile, but most i have seen are ABS, and i haaateee the shining over time. Any suggestions?
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Well, typically, unless you're OK with Black on Black (which is actually Black on very Dark Grey), most PBT sets would not have black/dark shades as it's difficult to dye-sub a lighter colour onto a dark colour, typically ABS ones have such combo coz the lighter colour is a separate piece of plastic.

Have not seen any dark coloured SA PBT sets.
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post Apr 17 2020, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(taf89 @ Apr 10 2020, 08:05 PM)
hello. i`m thinking of getting a custom mechanical keyboard. xd84 is in my mind right now.

i just want to ask, how much should i spend for it including assembly service? i don`t think i have time to assemble it. 

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I offer build commissions. Assembly starts from around RM80 for the most basic one, of course, the pricing adds up when including tuning and tweaking (lubed switches, tuned stabs, foamed plate etc) as well as if there's any LED involved. You could always drop me a message on Facebook Messenger if you're interested. wink.gif
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post Apr 18 2020, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Apr 18 2020, 02:11 PM)
Anyone bought these generic switch films before?
#Aliexpress MYR 29.36  16%OFF | 1 pack mechanical keyboard DIY MX Switch film MX switches dustproof sticker customized keyboard accessories
https://a.aliexpress.com/_d6iU4ZG

If I have RGB, how important is it that I get clear films?
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Personally have not used the stickers type before, but I've used the film type before, it would not affect the lightning as there's nothing over the LED slot.

Also, according to some of my friends whom had used the sticker type before, given the minimal price difference, they rather use the film type coz it's a lot easier to work with.
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post Apr 19 2020, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Apr 18 2020, 05:24 PM)
OK so I should qualify that I will not be using backlit keycaps. I'll be relying on the light diffusion effect of the transparent housing to get an underglow between keycaps.

Since the SMD LEDs will transmit its light 180 degrees, some of it will be blocked by the film. Question is, would it be enough to matter?
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It would not be in the way at all, to better illustrate the idea, I think a picture would do the trick. This was intentionally taken with various different colours so you get the idea better. Teal films over SMD switch over purple background.

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post Apr 19 2020, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(ShadowFiendZXC @ Apr 18 2020, 08:36 PM)
If soldered switches, still possible to lube?
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Possible, but not ideally. Best is to get whatever tuning done to the switches before soldering.

QUOTE(ntw @ Apr 18 2020, 10:41 PM)
even with plates that claim support for switch top removal, its actually a pain to do so. might, that iqunix seems to be a custom kit, why not buy it and send to a builder like grexer to do it for you?
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Yeah, without the right tools, it's a bitch to remove the switch tops while mounted inside the plate. Not to mention because of the slots in the plate, it also causes the switches to be a little loose fitting within the plate.

That iQunix seems like a pre-build though. Around RM600-700 depending on where is it bought from.
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TADA68 Minimal

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What better way to kill time over the MCO period than to build some keyboard projects? It involves some experimentation of a new method to lube the switches without desoldering them. While it brings improvement over the stock switches, I still reckon properly desoldering, disassembling, and lubing before putting everything back together as the better way to lube switches. Also, only recommended to do this ghetto lube job for linear switches since you don't have full control over where the lube goes.

Meanwhile, in terms of looks, I just really like how clean and minimal the entire setup looks. Black case, Black-on-White keycaps. So clean you can eat on it.


Switches: Gateron Red
Keycaps: Black-on-White Cherry-profile PBT
Case: Standard TADA68 Black ABS case
Tuning:
- Clipped, lubed & band-aid mod Cherry plate-mount stabilisers
- Ghetto-lubed main switches (Dripped Dry PTFE lube onto the sides of the sliders without de-soldering, definitely not :3ildcat's somewhat crazy, spray-everywhere, mess-everywhere style)
- Stabilised keys lubed with Krytox 205g0 and switch-filmed (including right SHIFT, despite not stabilised, for a more uniformed feel between left and right SHIFT keys)
- Fully foam-padded case (multiple layers of anti-slip mat to make sure the entire space is filled, not just one single layer of foam)
- Stock firmware flashed to VIA firmware

Shameless plug: I build, customised, and repair mechanical keyboards. Contact me on FB Messenger if you had any questions. icon_rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Apr 29 2020, 08:27 PM)
right or left?
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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Apr 29 2020, 10:21 PM)
so u need a better kibod?  rclxs0.gif
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Probably a better proof-reader laugh.gif

QUOTE(niakulah @ May 2 2020, 05:43 AM)
Guys, would this neoprene sheet be suitable to be put between PCB and plate?
https://s.lazada.com.my/s.b0KK4

I measured the gap to be about 3.5mm, if the product is OK, should I go for 3mm or 4mm version?
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Neoprene isn't quite compressible, if you really want to use neoprene between the plate and PCB, I would suggest going for 3mm instead of 4mm. Good luck trying to cut out holes on it to fit the switches and stabs though. A sharp knife and a lot of patience is required. (Patience that even I give up on laugh.gif )

Neoprene is good for in between PCB and case though, they are dense and heavy enough.

I would recommend EVA foam in between the plate and PCB as horns had mentioned.
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QUOTE(niakulah @ May 2 2020, 05:48 PM)
Thanks for the advice. I may just get both sizes of neoprene. If it doesn't work I can stuff it in the case.

I have plenty of sharp knives but from the small size of the squares needed, I'm thinking that wood chisels might be a better choice.
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Chisels too take a very long time. I ever went to the extent of trying to get a square punch, no luck getting it in the right size.

QUOTE(niakulah @ May 2 2020, 06:07 PM)
I also have a small leather plane whose blade is the exact size, but I think the resulting hole might be too tight a fit for the switches.
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Does seem like it would be a tight fit.
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QUOTE(niakulah @ May 8 2020, 01:28 PM)
Foam all done.
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Testing inserting into the case. Had to trim the sides a bit. Standoff holes a bit tight but not an issue.
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Side view
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Testing stabs work as intended. Tested all holes ok.
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Now waiting for my bloody films. Then I can spring swap, lube, film, and solder.
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Great job! wub.gif

QUOTE(niakulah @ May 8 2020, 03:53 PM)
Thanks. I just hope I get them soon. Aliexpress, you know la...

I'm seriously tempted not to wait though. These switches are quite tight. Almost no wobble. Or maybe it's because I haven't opened them up and lubed them yet...

Or maybe I should spend more time working....hahaha
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Well, it's REALLY likely because you haven't opened them up. rclxs0.gif

Those Polycarbonate top housings are like erm, virgins, once you open up, they stay opened up. blush.gif

QUOTE(Azims @ May 8 2020, 03:59 PM)
Looks like Ganss GS-87. Anyone have any info on this?  hmm.gif
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r....bucket=4#detail

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Doesn't really look like an actual Ganss to me, typically Ganss costs more. Looks more like built up from an OEM (while I don't really like the way this word is used in the industry, coz it's often mis-used, it's the easiest way to explain it) board. Uses Outemu supposedly hot-swap switches. And the brand is clearly written there as "YMKB".
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QUOTE(Chyan @ May 25 2020, 09:34 PM)
Hey guys, I'm torn between RK71, Magicforce 68 (new version with pbt keycaps) and Ajazz AK33.

I have a shopee voucher worth RM50 on minimum spending. I want something's that's bang for the buck while maintaining keycap customizability without issues. Bluetooth doesn't matter to me as I have a TKL RK987 coming.

Any thoughts?
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Best keycap compatibility would be handsdown the Magicforce 68 (even a standard 104 kit fits, last I checked), then the RK71, and lastly, the AK33 (coz those 1.25U keys all over the board isn't helping)

Can't really say about the "bang per buck" coz, they seemed to be wildly different in pricing with the MF68 being the most costly one, but it's also one of the "more decent without too much work" ones.
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QUOTE(niakulah @ May 28 2020, 09:47 AM)
Anyone know of any black nylon switch bottom with SMD support? Preferably in a tactile switch and with a clear top.

Closest I could find are NK Blueberries with a cream POM housing and the various Invyr/BSUN Panda housings, but no black.
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Certain TTC switches come with black bottom for SMD support (one big gaping hole underneath), but the top housing does not support normal LEDs as there are no holes due to the bottom housing
SMD support.
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QUOTE(doppatroll @ May 29 2020, 04:04 PM)
is it possible to convert solder switch to hot plug switch ?
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It's possible, but, the question is, "is it worth it?", I would say if there's another PCB available that natively supports Kailh/Gateron hot-swap sockets, just get a new PCB.

There are 2 ways to make a normal solder-only PCB hot-swap
1. Use copper eyelets.
Pros: CHEAP and somewhat easy to work with
CONS: They fit loose, like REALLY loose, basically you can almost hold on to your plate and the PCB will fall off. Also, switch pins would need to be bent in a certain angle before inserting so they make contact with the copper eyelets and makes the switch/keyboard work.

2. Use Mill-max sockets
Pros: Solid connection, fits tight just like Kailh/Gateron style hot-swap sockets.
Cons: EXPENSIVE, might as well buy a new hot-swap PCB. Also, fitment is PCB to PCB basis, some PCBs work very well with it, some, might cause the switch to sit a little less flushed to the PCB.

QUOTE(ShadowFiendZXC @ May 30 2020, 02:53 PM)
https://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a1z10....82&on_comment=1

how well do these screw-in stabs perform compared to GMK ones?
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Comparable? Can't say that GMK stabs are 2-3 times better though(coz the price is 2-3 times more). Won't say "Get C3 stabs" coz they are a GB item that's not necessarily easily obtainable once you missed the bus. C3 v1 stuck keycaps is a case per case basis, as horns already put it, just file the stab (instead of the keycap) with a nail file.

I would say Cherry screw-in should be good enough for most builds. Better than the push-fit ones since they are more secured on the PCB.


QUOTE(quadcube @ May 30 2020, 05:08 PM)
Heck no laugh.gif unless you fancy clamping down your PCB and drill holes with CNC, superglueing every hot swap socket to the newly created holes and finally hot wiring the entire switch matrix to the controller by hand.
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QUOTE(quadcube @ May 30 2020, 08:30 PM)
Haha, well, if he/she is committed to try, I don’t mind providing the coordinates/CAD file for the hot swap holes laugh.gif
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QUOTE(horns @ May 30 2020, 08:37 PM)
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just file the stab (instead of the keycap) with a nail file.

this is a better pointer on how to solve it. it's really as simple as that.
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File, I forgot to state that "file the stab is better than filing the keycap as keycaps may cost a lot while stabs are easily replaced". blush.gif
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Keyboard commissions opened for June 2020

Hi all, am providing mechanical keyboard related services such as keyboard commissions (building & assembly), tuning (lubing, stab tuning) and repairs and am based out of Puchong.

Current collection schedule for June 2020:
Week 1, 3-5: Every Monday and Thursday (June 1, 4, 15, 18, 22, 25, 29)
Week 2: Tuesday and Friday. (June 9, 12)

Let me know if you're looking for some loving wub.gif brows.gif innocent.gif for your mechanical keyboards ya? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(quadcube @ May 30 2020, 11:53 PM)
lucky you. talking about soldering tools, usually what tweezer you use? I starting to go down the hole on tweezers, since I do a lot of SMD work.
one of my friend from an electromagnetic microscope research group introduced me to the rolls royce of tweezer since they work with nano stuff. gosh, its so damn good compared to cheap tweezers. but price also quite steep for a tweezer, can easily cost from rm200 to rm500+ laugh.gif
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QUOTE(quadcube @ May 31 2020, 12:25 AM)
if one day you feel adventurous, can try Dumont/Fontax tweezers laugh.gif big fan of style 5 tweezers, extremely sharp tips yet solid to hold and very manoeuvrable. usually I use Fontax Taxal style 5 ones but currently they are in JP. now waiting for a Dumont and cheap VETUS style 5 tweezer to arrive.

hopefully the VETUS one is reasonably good since its very affordable (rm20+) compared to the Swiss made ones (rm200+)
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OK. That's some good info there. Will at least check out the VETUS first. Haha.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Adrian_Alastair @ Jun 3 2020, 12:01 PM)
My first custom keyboard. Waiting game begins, hope everything goes smoothly. 

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Glad you manage to get the DZ65RGB in stock. Though, in a hind sight, might want to ask KBDfans if you can top up a little for Cherry screw-in PCB mount, the ones in your picture seems like standard clip-in PCB mount. Also, in case they missed it, do let them know also that you would prefer if they pre-mod the case for the PCB (but might not be an issue for the V2, not entirely sure, it was an issue with the V1 PCB where 1-2 of the hot-swap sockets are nudging onto the case mounting posts)

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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Jun 4 2020, 03:07 PM)
understood. but what is BOM? Bottom Out Mass?  sweat.gif
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Build of Material. A bit of an industrial/specific term. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(irsyadfy @ Jun 4 2020, 03:07 PM)
the more we go into details, the more we find out shitty stuff, the more we wanting to custom hence custom kibods.

i understood all these once i start reading n observing custom mods. ppl do it to eliminate the shitty stuff. even custom dont give out all these details bcoz if it is also included on top of all the customization of materials, the pricing will go even more absurd.
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I do sometimes wish more people spend some time to understand "the need to build a custom" like you do. That's exactly the reason for going custom, to go into specifics into each and every detail, of course the price will balloon, but if someone "just needs a mechanical keyboard" and thinks that going for a custom build is cheaper than buying a pre-build, that's the wrong mindset. Often than not, customs would cost equal, if not most of the time, MORE, due to all the work done that can't exactly be done without going custom. Like lubing the switches first, specific plates and foam under plate, etc. Stab tuning is possibly still easy to do on a pre-build since it's only like 5-8 switches to desolder.

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