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post Mar 13 2018, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(artificialRAGE @ Mar 13 2018, 05:17 PM)
I still have this board. Board is typical Ducky One. Not bad but not amazing either. Some creaks here and there. Spacebar rattles when pressed making it really annoying.

The main issue is the keycap printing especially the light blue ones. The dye sub quality is not good as the ink bleeds. A bit of and eyesore really but I don't really care. Thinkness is good. Quite thick.
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Ink bleed is not dye-sub. laugh.gif
Heard they just printed it. Not to bash it, but I think they release too many models in a year. QC for boards still fine, just the keycaps, many models screwed us up.
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post Mar 13 2018, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 13 2018, 07:55 PM)
i believe it's warped large keys. i think i need to find time check this key cap set also.

varmilo is at a different level compared to ducky.
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Hard to say, but, new manufacturer always like trial and error.
Now you see ducky mixed with those big god brands for ducky new models.
Their models now too fast already, I bet local distri will not last long if continue like that. No new things, just repetitively same stuff with different color.

QUOTE(zorbyss. @ Mar 13 2018, 08:08 PM)
that kinda held me off of getting the Horizon set (made by Hardcap) and they're a little thin at 1.2mm.
maybe i should go for Varmilo first, too bad there's no more options for mixed colours on their Taobao store. Only the plain ones.
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Just wait Hardcap improve only can buy. I like stopped selling local Ducky after the MIYA sakura. Too much issue for both of seller and distri..
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post Mar 14 2018, 07:50 AM

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Just another community sales for those really want to get a CM Wrist Rest at RM 25. For today only.
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post Mar 15 2018, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(watermineral @ Mar 15 2018, 01:58 PM)
Finally I got my replacement keycap and small gift from ducky Taiwan.
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Good service.. Ship from Taiwan not cheap.. notworthy.gif
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post Mar 15 2018, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(watermineral @ Mar 15 2018, 02:48 PM)
The thing is I refund my ducky ad.. Feel a little bit guilty haha
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Refund locally? Keep the keycaps for collection.
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post Mar 15 2018, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(Xaxas @ Mar 15 2018, 03:38 PM)
Looking for a full size form factor.
Currently eyeing MasterKeys L PBT and Ducky One 2 Skyline with blue switches
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Skip the skyline . The problem with their keycaps QC.

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post Mar 15 2018, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 15 2018, 04:09 PM)
well never mind. it's better to always do checks when possible. even though ducky is a reputable brand, shits do happen. this applies to all brands of anything that are mass-produced.
imo cm is the better option. in terms of warranty, it offers 2-year one-to-one exchange.
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Yes, 2 years 1-to-1 exchange without repair. Just give u another new board.
But, some ppl will tends to abuse. But I don't care, as long as it makes sense. laugh.gif
For keyboard, either is brand abuse the warranty period to make consumer feel cheated, or consumer make brand feel cheated only. rclxm9.gif
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post Mar 15 2018, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(Xaxas @ Mar 15 2018, 04:50 PM)
oh 2 years, nice will go ahead with that option then. thanks smile.gif
When will Store Uni restock for MasterKeys L PBT for brown switch?
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Malaysia don't have Brown switch for S and L. Not really about restock or don't restock since it never will have it.
And for the S and L Blue/Red, it's only 10 units during last time CM bring in.

That's why ppl disappoint, then go for red switch.

On side note, MK750 RGB Brown switch has the extra 20 units. I'm wondering if they shift it to MK750.. mega_shok.gif
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post Mar 15 2018, 05:56 PM

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post Mar 15 2018, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 15 2018, 08:17 PM)
.. abuse is always a bad thing to both sides. i really hope this doesn't happen often. to me, sellers/distri just need to back their end of the deal, and share with us alternatives when we are not aware of options, if possible.

as for the longer warranty period, it's a good sign to show that a brand is ready to back their products. it doesn't mean that consumers should take advantage of it.
hopefully you will enjoy it. (i thought you're looking for blue) don't worry about after-sale supports, and as one of his customers i think he's doing it right
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The reason why warranty period is longer, because brand pressure the manufacturer. Warranty like switches will bear by Cherry etc.
It's true, if your switch so "lan" geng, then you provide better warranty to prove you are right. rclxms.gif
If 1 board warranty because of 1 switch, definitely Cherry pay for the fraction of the board cost.

So, because certain brand that "guarantee" their product is good, we buy it. But, the manufacturer "guarantee" their QC and production is good, then brand use them, and supply chain and so on.

This just extra knowledge how thing works in mkb business and other businesses.
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post Mar 15 2018, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 15 2018, 09:19 PM)
haha yes i think manufacturers should back their products with appropriate warranty offers. like samsung, they're the first one who offered 10-year warranty for one of their performance ssds, then others followed. only a few are actually capable of doing that.

well, as long as they don't cut corners and build things accordingly, things can be very good for everyone in the chain. shits do happen but still if everyone is doing their part, i really think issues can be dealt with fairly effectively.

this is not the same as custom mkbs, where warranty of each part is actually quite limited. (but luckily everything is kind of repairable or replaceable)
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Many can't follow that, you giant then manufacturer scared you go to find other sub-con. But, for smaller brands, bully you more than offer u better warranty.
Every side also don't want to make loss. I worked in manufacturing last time, we need to control the good yield, so our side can earn profit through the hardwork.
Any assembly failure will bear by both brands and manufacturer. You help me, I help you when there is profit.
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post Mar 16 2018, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(zorbyss. @ Mar 16 2018, 11:26 AM)
it's not possible to desolder the switches without desoldering the LEDs right?
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Yes. You need desolder the LEDs 1st, only can desolder switches.
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post Mar 18 2018, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(zorbyss. @ Mar 18 2018, 03:13 PM)
nice info. thanks.
just bought a rapid-i from quavadis123, thinking to gateronized it (Black) and paint it beige and put on enjoypbt to make it look vintage (model m looks)
anyway, may i know what's your take on linear switches? what are the best heavy linear switch you'd recommend?
I have a few testers (kailh, cherry, gateron, outemu, greetech), will probably spend some time with'em tonight.
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These rapid-i at RM 100, I learnt that experienced enthusiasts made decision very fast.
And new players take long time decisions, and many tends to become kaki airplane.
This kind of symptom is always there in the community, experienced players always have big advantage because they understand what they are buying.

Still, the current mkb community, i can see is much lower amount of knowledge, they join the group for the sake of having many groups in their profile.
Can conclude, the community is running the reverse gear compared to nearby countries community.

The passion, attitude, culture. purchasing power are the downfall of our current group. doh.gif
It's super sad, people telling you last time mkb club is much more better because less toxic and less sohai and cb kia. lol.
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post Mar 20 2018, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 20 2018, 03:50 PM)
.. as usual, i am impatient. here are some shots about my spare gk64, with cherry mx red/silent red/silent black, in a black kbdfans 5-degree case. it's based on my previous notes here.
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even though the plate is only supported by switches only, without additional reinforcements from screws and soldering of switches apparently, it's surprisingly sturdy. screws are used to secure pcb into the case only, not the plate. this is the main difference from the stock/prebuilt gk64. you just start switch installation from all four sides and center to provide the base first, to make sure they sit flush, then only populate the rest.
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rclxms.gif Nice board..
Posting such photos increase our morale and passion towards MKB. thumbsup.gif
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post Mar 22 2018, 01:42 PM

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hi james ooi..
the photo put spoiler..
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post Mar 23 2018, 07:56 AM

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QUOTE(StuartLee2015 @ Mar 23 2018, 01:43 AM)
Before i jump the gun and buy Logitech G613,

I would like to know, if the keyboard has any thin rubberized coating on any part of the keyboard itself, particular the palm/wrist rest. Which with ages, it will turn into nasty dust-magnet and sticky to touch which turn into unpleasant usage.
Q : Rubberized coating or Hard Plastic/textured plastic ?

and since it's paired with the Logitech G603 Wireless Mouse,
Q: does it have rubberized coating or just hard plastic?
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Logitch G613 don't use rubberized coating, just only use smoother contrast light grey plastics on the keyboard and mouse.
Bottom of the case of mouse and keyboard, they do use darker color sand-blasted plastics though.

Indeed, rubber coating does provide dust-magnet, finger magnet, and hell of sticky melt after few years.

Note: Get info from the reviewer. Since, now rubberized coating pretty much the enemy of whole keyboard industry. smile.gif

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post Mar 23 2018, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 23 2018, 11:04 AM)
in general input devices with rubberized coatings (e.g. keyboards, especially mice) are bad after few years. the devices are still good, but sticky gum-like materials on their surfaces just don't feel nice to hold on to.

hopefully the current steelseries sensei 310 doesn't have that. (i also have logitech pro and g403 as backups)
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rubber coat is good for short term, good grip, nice feeling.. Such coat promote you to BUY MORE. If a product can use like 10 years, then tutup kedai just like Filco in Malaysia. laugh.gif
I even have lots of pen using rubber coating.. Make me feel, the coating cost is cheap as dirt.
If no 1 buy from me, i also tutup. Reality. sad.gif

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post Mar 23 2018, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 23 2018, 12:47 PM)
it's true about the purpose of rubber coating. it really feels nice when it's new hehe

.. and i believe filco can last for 10 years or more, well, good stuff that last usually doesn't mean the end of a product. there will always be new comers, and customers that return for more

btw for mice, instead of rubber coatings, why not just make replaceable surfaces for users to play with? there are so many spin-offs that they can offer (.. and yet they just stopped at replacement feet)
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next 10 years only can earn you another board money. That's why now filco no more in Malaysia.. Need another 10 years.
My filco after 6 years still ok. another 4 years to go.. hope they still there once the time come.
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post Mar 23 2018, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 23 2018, 02:07 PM)
that's filco. if you only carried the keyboards of that brand alone, that might be the case.

however like varmilo, diatec also has a lot more to offer:
1. they have tenkeypads;
2. they have plenty of key cap sets;
3. they also offer case customization, e.g. http://www.diatec.co.jp/shop/kobo/

there are more, http://www.diatec.co.jp/shop/

globalized markets are now part of our lives. coupled with local online stores, impacts to local businesses are imminent. however there are still ways to make a business continue to strive.
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Malaysia did bring in kobo, but the cost is high. What you listed out, Malaysia offered before. So, end of story, is gg RIP. innocent.gif
Struggle to survive, but, losing the market. Nothing to sorry about, weak always phased out, only fittest survived.

They will coming back in the future when the buying power for filco is there. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Mar 23 2018, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 23 2018, 03:24 PM)
first, sorry for my ignorance (i was editing the original post then i saw this). i am really not aware of the existence of kobo stuff in Malaysia.

it's always 'survival of the fittest', and the key question is always, 'what have you done to maintain fitness?'

consumers are from all walks of life. there will always be entry-level, mid-range and high-end buyers. if they're keen on having a share of local market, it's diatec that need to do something. (look at razer. still going strong despite bad parts, overpriced and all)
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Only Razer surviving in Malaysia.
Other brands you can name is going down the slope. And brand like iKBC, Mistel, Vortex all no more in Malaysia distri. And more bigger brands will ceased soon.
I think Ducky will be the next victim, after see they desperate to struggle to survive in latest few weeks post. So much older stocks that people don't want to buy.

On the other hand, Sg sales for "certain big brand" overtake Malaysia. Small country, big spending power.

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