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horns
post Feb 27 2018, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(Eterman @ Feb 27 2018, 12:12 PM)
i didn't use diskpart clean. i usually delete the partitions, so it becomes unallocated before fresh installation or other methods of cloning. 

i am using plextor s3g, latest firmware.
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diskpart > clean clears not only all partitions, but visible and hidden settings on the disk that we might overlook sometimes (such as disk type).





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post Feb 27 2018, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Feb 27 2018, 08:00 PM)
diskpart > clean clears not only all partitions, but visible and hidden settings on the disk that we might overlook sometimes (such as disk type).
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is diskpart clean similar to delete partitions and format ?

in some of my retries, i used delete partitions + format combo.
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post Feb 28 2018, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(Eterman @ Feb 27 2018, 08:31 PM)
is diskpart clean similar to delete partitions and format ?

in some of my retries, i used delete partitions + format combo.
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afaik not really. diskpart > clean clears everything literally, making the disk like new and untouched (sort of) as a secondary disk, you will need to reinitialize it with disk management.
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post Feb 28 2018, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Feb 28 2018, 01:11 AM)
afaik not really. diskpart > clean clears everything literally, making the disk like new and untouched (sort of) as a secondary disk, you will need to reinitialize it with disk management.
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i think i used minitool partition wizard's wipe disk function, similar to diskpart clean/clean all. Still the same result.
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post Feb 28 2018, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(Eterman @ Feb 28 2018, 09:43 AM)
i think i used minitool partition wizard's wipe disk function, similar to diskpart clean/clean all. Still the same result.
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ok you wiped disk every time before your next attempts. it might be too much but that should work too.

can the ssd work normally as a secondary disk? (meaning booting into hdd then try using ssd as a secondary storage for files); or do you have a compatible pc to test the ssd?

sorry but i'm out of ideas. i had to use fresh installation to check if clone had issues. usually with the right bios settings, and fresh installation done properly, everything will work as is. however in your case, even in a single-disk configuration, fresh installation failed with bcd errors. it might really be the ssd already.


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post Feb 28 2018, 11:10 AM

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TS, try installing the SSD on a PC just to make sure it's working properly..
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post Feb 28 2018, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Feb 28 2018, 10:13 AM)
ok you wiped disk every time before your next attempts. it might be too much but that should work too.

can the ssd work normally as a secondary disk? (meaning booting into hdd then try using ssd as a secondary storage for files); or do you have a compatible pc to test the ssd?

sorry but i'm out of ideas. i had to use fresh installation to check if clone had issues. usually with the right bios settings, and fresh installation done properly, everything will work as is. however in your case, even in a single-disk configuration, fresh installation failed with bcd errors. it might really be the ssd already.
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yes, i'm currently using it as a secondary storage drive for game files, seems to be no problem so far.


QUOTE(asdasd @ Feb 28 2018, 11:10 AM)
TS, try installing the SSD on a PC just to make sure it's working properly..
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This is my up-to-date laptop, no other computers have m.2 slot(they are too old anyway), since it is working as storage drive, i suppose ssd is working properly.
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post Feb 28 2018, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(Eterman @ Feb 28 2018, 11:34 AM)
yes, i'm currently using it as a secondary storage drive for game files, seems to be no problem so far.

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that means the ssd is fine. (i.e. bios/os detects it properly; it can be used without issues). however, we still got stuck with a fresh installation in a single-disk configuration that caused bcd errors (which i find it weird, because i never encountered fresh w10 installations with bcd errors in different systems, with different ssds before)

as a last attempt, https://www.easeus.com/partition-manager-so...ows-10-8-7.html

more specifically, have you tried bootrec /rebuildbcd?
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post Feb 28 2018, 12:38 PM

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Make sure you use the cloning software that is designed for cloning SSD. I think the old cloning software will not flag the SSD properly to work.
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post Feb 28 2018, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Feb 28 2018, 12:32 PM)
that means the ssd is fine. (i.e. bios/os detects it properly; it can be used without issues). however, we still got stuck with a fresh installation in a single-disk configuration that caused bcd errors (which i find it weird, because i never encountered fresh w10 installations with bcd errors in different systems, with different ssds before)

as a last attempt, https://www.easeus.com/partition-manager-so...ows-10-8-7.html

more specifically, have you tried bootrec /rebuildbcd?
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Yes, tried that too. It always states : total windows installation = 0 , operations completed successfully.

QUOTE(Zot @ Feb 28 2018, 12:38 PM)
Make sure you use the cloning software that is designed for cloning SSD. I think the old cloning software will not flag the SSD properly to work.
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Any other cloning softwares you have in mind?
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post Feb 28 2018, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(Eterman @ Feb 28 2018, 02:26 PM)
Yes, tried that too. It always states : total windows installation = 0 , operations completed successfully.
Any other cloning softwares you have in mind?
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https://www.backup-utility.com/clone/clone-...o-ssd-4348.html
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post Feb 28 2018, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Feb 27 2018, 10:46 AM)
You didn't clone it properly.

Use easeus. Freeware.

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Suggestion of doing fresh installation is beyond crazy.
You may not get your OS activation back.
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I have check with Windows before. Doing fresh installation will get u back the original win 10 u have. as windows register the computer using digital license. so the system will be able to detect that the computer is the genuine windows holder
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post Feb 28 2018, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(Eterman @ Feb 28 2018, 02:26 PM)
Yes, tried that too. It always states : total windows installation = 0 , operations completed successfully.

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try these steps (starting from step.5 since you already reached step.4): https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-rebuild-the...windows-2624508

best of luck.

edit: if the bcd error is the same for your clone and fresh installation, then you can use the same fix for your clone.

This post has been edited by horns: Feb 28 2018, 03:01 PM
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post Feb 28 2018, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Feb 28 2018, 02:47 PM)
try these steps (starting from step.5 since you already reached step.4): https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-rebuild-the...windows-2624508

best of luck.

edit: if the bcd error is the same for your clone and fresh installation, then you can use the same fix for your clone.
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tried to follow what's described in lifewire link.

managed to export bcdbackup, then failed at "attrib c:\boot\bcd -h -r -s" , it stated c:\boot path not found, stucked at point 6.
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post Mar 1 2018, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(Eterman @ Feb 28 2018, 11:11 PM)
tried to follow what's described in lifewire link.

managed to export bcdbackup, then failed at "attrib c:\boot\bcd -h -r -s" , it stated c:\boot path not found, stucked at point 6.
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sorry i didn't relate both the articles that i linked for you and caused such confusions. there are commands in the second link that are supposed to be used in case you encountered access issues. i will try to make it more clear for you.

you should follow step 2.1 Use diskpart to repair Windows 10/8 UEFI in https://www.easeus.com/partition-manager-so...ows-10-8-7.html

- Insert Windows 10/8.1/8 installation disk or installation USB into PC > Boot from the disk or USB;
- Click Repair your computer or hit F8 at the Install now screen;
- Click Troubleshoot > Advanced options > Command Prompt;
- Type below command and hit Enter each time:
diskpart
DISKPART>
sel disk 0

- When the message "Disk 0 is now the selected disk" shows up, type:
list vol
- diskpart will now show the full list of volumes on your PC. here you need to find out two things: actual windows installation drive letter, and the efi volume number. find UEFI volume from the list (usually it's FAT32 formatted, and it's labelled as System in Info column). (in this example we use Volume 2; replace the actual volume number based on your system); for the actual windows installation drive letter, it's in the column Ltr with the Info Column labelled as Boot. in this example, we use C:\

- Type below command and hit Enter each time:
sel vol 2
assign letter=G: Note: G shall be a unique drive letter which is not already in use in your system; use other driver letter if necessary;

- When the message "DiskPart successfully assigned the drive letter or mount point", type below command and hit Enter each time:
exit

- now, the boot folder is supposed to be in one of the locations below:
cd /d G:\EFI\Microsoft\Boot\ or
cd /d G:\Boot\ or
cd /d G:\ESD\Windows\EFI\Microsoft\Boot\

- Note: G is the drive letter you signed to UEFI partition with the command assign above; remember to replace G with the actual UEFI’s partition letter that you have assigned.
- once you're in the right boot folder:
bootrec /fixboot
ren BCD BCD.bak
bcdboot C:\Windows /l en-us /s x: /f ALL

Note: C:\ above is supposed to be the drive where your Windows 10/8.1/8 is installed on; remember to replace the drive letter with the actual one for your windows installation.

- You can also run:bootrec /rebuildbcd > hit Enter;
- Type: exit in Command Prompt > Restart PC.

edit: all commands are in green. with this manual process the bcd error thing should be fixed.


This post has been edited by horns: Mar 1 2018, 02:13 AM
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post Mar 13 2018, 03:57 PM

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Acronis True Image is my best tool to clone whole windows from HDD to SSD because I always use this software to clone my PC old HDD to my new SSD.

 

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