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Frank3
post May 10 2019, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(beng970804 @ May 9 2019, 10:22 PM)
I'm from MMU Cyberjaya and my CGPA is 3.52. btw, going to graduate in 3 more weeks..😩
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I also from MMU Cyberjaya, but i found that UTAR/KTAR graduates also same salary with me last time (MMU study fees are way damn high if compare to TAR, i am still stuck with PTPTN but all my TAR colleagues already one lumsup clean 100% PTPTN) bangwall.gif bangwall.gif bangwall.gif bangwall.gif
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post May 14 2019, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(hiroshi87 @ May 14 2019, 12:19 PM)
in today's world. permanent post do not guarantees job security. let's face it.
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Yes, permanent staff will be retrenched as well.

From my perspective, my priority for career development. I will choose contract if the job allow me to learn precious skills, provided i get increment from the job hop.

Example:
My current monhtly salary 4k + 2mth bonus, annual salary is 4k*14=56,000

Job offer:

A: Permanent, 4500 + 2 mth bonus, annual salary is 63,000, 14 AL, 14 ML, insurance, etc.. doing similar thing with previous job.

B: Contract, 5250 (no bonuses), annual salary is 63,000,14 AL, 14 ML, insurance, etc.. job scope changed and offer learning opportunity aka better career development.

I will choose B with no doubt, provided the salary is not lesser than another offer.
I also found that, if select option A, the 2 mth bonus will be pro-rated depends on company policy, such as probation period will not count when come to bonus.
If select contract job, yes, i don't need to bother about bonus and don't need to wait for year end when come to career planning.

PS: The contract job here is not BOND (some people will be misunderstood), which i still can resign within contract period, by serving notice period.
Frank3
post May 14 2019, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(budang @ May 14 2019, 03:59 PM)
I hope you can say that again when you're closing to your 40s, with kids, their education, mortgage & car loan to pay tongue.gif
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Oops, I forgot to mention i haven't reach 30s, yeah, i agreed with you when you have high commitment, you need high stability job.
As of now, i just need to learn as much as possible no matter contract job and permanent job. biggrin.gif

Also, some of the C-Suite positions are in contract basis, so you will let go the offer when you are 40s yo with family commitments? Correct me if i am wrong.
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post Mar 15 2020, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(Frank3 @ Jul 19 2018, 10:53 AM)
Job Title : Business Analyst (within company)
Job Desciption : Client Facing (requirement gathering, change request, UAT, project planning, system deployment, incident investigation...etc), internal (SIT, regression testing, defect tracking, report defects to developer..etc )
Age : 28
Years spent in company : 7 months
Company : SME (Business Intelligence product and also IT projects related to BI)
Industry : Computer software
Tenure : Perm
Experience before joining (years) : 3 years as part time project engineer in vendor (bank projects), 3 years 9 months as QA in ship owner company (In-house system, need to travel frequently)
Highest paper qualification/ education background : B. Degree (IT)
Location : Singapore
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 40 +-

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : SGD 4500 +
Contractual Bonus (months): 0
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : Performance Bonus (1-2), Annual Supplement Wage (1), Project Completion (1 month (pro-rated) split into 3 phases)

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical Insurance
Transport Benefits : NA
Flexi Working Hours : Yes, not necessary follow 9-6, sometimes can be 10-6, 10-7...etc

Goal is to climb for project lead/manager role and of course more money as SG is high cost country, current salary is definitely not enough if wish to build family and own flat in here.

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QUOTE(Frank3 @ Mar 8 2019, 05:10 PM)
Accepted a job offer recently. Looking to switch my career to more technical instead of functional, i found that if you work in IT field, you need to have strong technical background as well.

Job Title : Test Analyst
Job Desciption : Develop test automation framework (functional test) & performance test.
Age : 29
Years spent in company : 0 (haven't join)
Company : A famous company (owned casino)
Industry : Leisure, travel & tourism
Tenure : Contract (2-year contract with possibility of permanent conversion)
Experience before joining (years) : 8 yrs
Highest paper qualification/ education background : B. Degree (IT)
Location : Singapore
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45 +-

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : SGD 5300
Contractual Bonus (months): 0
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : NA

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical Insurance
Transport Benefits : NA
Flexi Working Hours : Yes.
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After a year of working in technical (software testing automation), i receive another job offer, hopefully still able to catch up people in Singapore:

Job Title : QA Engineer
Job Desciption : Ensure the successful execution of automated test cases in all products on the platform and thus ensure the quality of the software (E-commerce)
Age : 30
Years spent in company : 0 (haven't join)
Company : Germany automotive company
Industry : Automotive
Tenure : Contract until Dec 2020 and will convert to permanent on Jan 2021
Experience before joining: 9 yrs
Experience in Singapore: 6 yrs
Highest paper qualification/ education background : B. Degree (IT)
Location : Singapore
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45 +-

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : SGD 7000
Monthly Allowance: SGD 800 (Mobility) -- edited
Contractual Bonus (months): 0
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 20% of annual salary

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical Insurance
Transport Benefits : NA
Flexi Working Hours : Yes.
Leave: AL + Cultural Leave

This post has been edited by Frank3: Apr 7 2020, 09:55 AM
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post Mar 16 2020, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(PrincZe @ Mar 16 2020, 09:39 AM)
very well done i'd say. im looking forward to be able to climb the ladder as well.

are u a PR already?
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Thanks.
Yes i am PR already and going to settle down in SG, so I have to earn more in order to build family here.
I will still stick to technical/consultant role until late 30s, then may think to climb the ladder.


QUOTE(budang @ Mar 16 2020, 09:57 AM)
That's a pretty rapid progress
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Yeah, i am lucky and feel like win 4D now.
Frank3
post Apr 7 2020, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(Darkcloudz @ Apr 2 2020, 11:29 AM)
only engineer level can earn that range of salary? not even a senior role yet?
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Actually i have senior tasks such as develop framework from scratch..etc
It is just the title look normal as the company is practicing flat hierarchy model (Agile, scrum)

Actually there is a lot of ground job in Singapore can get this level of pay, such as software engineers..etc
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post Oct 6 2020, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(Frank3 @ Mar 15 2020, 03:00 PM)
After a year of working in technical (software testing automation), i receive another job offer, hopefully still able to catch up people in Singapore:

Job Title : QA Engineer
Job Desciption : Ensure the successful execution of automated test cases in all products on the platform and thus ensure the quality of the software (E-commerce)
Age : 30
Years spent in company : 0 (haven't join)
Company : Germany automotive company
Industry : Automotive
Tenure : Contract until Dec 2020 and will convert to permanent on Jan 2021
Experience before joining: 9 yrs
Experience in Singapore: 6 yrs
Highest paper qualification/ education background : B. Degree (IT)
Location : Singapore
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45 +-

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : SGD 7000
Monthly Allowance: SGD 800 (Mobility) -- edited
Contractual Bonus (months): 0
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 20% of annual salary

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical Insurance
Transport Benefits : NA
Flexi Working Hours : Yes.
Leave: AL + Cultural Leave
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Although my career is not the best among the member here, I will still post my employment history with salary for those who wish to start their career in Singapore especially as IT professional.

Company A (Software QA - Oil And Gas Industry)
24 yo, Apr 2014, SGD2500 (Contract)
24 yo, Jun 2014, SGD2700 (Convert to permanent, 13th bonus + variable bonus)
25 yo, Jan 2015, SGD2980 (Increment + Management Remove 13th bonus - Due to bad oil price)
27 yo, Nov 2017, SGD2980 (Finally resigned because no salary increment, bonus and career progression in 2016 & 2017)

Company B (Software QA - IT service Industry)
27 yo, Dec 2017, SGD3400 (Permanent, 13th bonus + variable bonus)
28 yo, Apr 2018, SGD3600 (Passed Probation)
28 yo, Jun 2018, SGD4500 (Got other job offer, but company counter offer)
29 yo, Feb 2019, SGD4500 (Resigned)

Company C (Software QA - Gaming Industry)
29yo, Mar 2019, SGD5300 (Contract, no bonus)
30yo, Mar 2020, SGD5300 (Resigned)

Company D (Software QA - Automotive Industry)
30yo, Apr 2020, SGD7000 + 800 (Contract, variable bonus + monthly allowance SGD800)

From my experience in Singapore, jump ship is the best way to increase salary.
For those who want to come Singapore, remember open a Linkedin account, most of the recruiter search candidates from Linkedin. If you are IT professional, especially related to software development (Software engineer, QA, architect, Devops, Tech Consultant)


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post Jul 22 2021, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(Frank3 @ Mar 15 2020, 03:00 PM)
After a year of working in technical (software testing automation), i receive another job offer, hopefully still able to catch up people in Singapore:

Job Title : QA Engineer
Job Desciption : Ensure the successful execution of automated test cases in all products on the platform and thus ensure the quality of the software (E-commerce)
Age : 30
Years spent in company : 0 (haven't join)
Company : Germany automotive company
Industry : Automotive
Tenure : Contract until Dec 2020 and will convert to permanent on Jan 2021
Experience before joining: 9 yrs
Experience in Singapore: 6 yrs
Highest paper qualification/ education background : B. Degree (IT)
Location : Singapore
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 45 +-

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : SGD 7000
Monthly Allowance: SGD 800 (Mobility) -- edited
Contractual Bonus (months): 0
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 20% of annual salary

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical Insurance
Transport Benefits : NA
Flexi Working Hours : Yes.
Leave: AL + Cultural Leave
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QUOTE(Frank3 @ Oct 6 2020, 04:00 PM)
Although my career is not the best among the member here, I will still post my employment history with salary for those who wish to start their career in Singapore especially as IT professional.

Company A (Software QA - Oil And Gas Industry)
24 yo, Apr 2014, SGD2500 (Contract)
24 yo, Jun 2014, SGD2700 (Convert to permanent, 13th bonus + variable bonus)
25 yo, Jan 2015, SGD2980 (Increment + Management Remove 13th bonus - Due to bad oil price)
27 yo, Nov 2017, SGD2980 (Finally resigned because no salary increment, bonus and career progression in 2016 & 2017)

Company B (Software QA - IT service Industry)
27 yo, Dec 2017, SGD3400 (Permanent, 13th bonus + variable bonus)
28 yo, Apr 2018, SGD3600 (Passed Probation)
28 yo, Jun 2018, SGD4500 (Got other job offer, but company counter offer)
29 yo, Feb 2019, SGD4500 (Resigned)

Company C (Software QA - Gaming Industry)
29yo, Mar 2019, SGD5300 (Contract, no bonus)
30yo, Mar 2020, SGD5300 (Resigned)

Company D (Software QA - Automotive Industry)
30yo, Apr 2020, SGD7000 + 800 (Contract, variable bonus + monthly allowance SGD800)

From my experience in Singapore, jump ship is the best way to increase salary.
For those who want to come Singapore, remember open a Linkedin account, most of the recruiter search candidates from Linkedin. If you are IT professional, especially related to software development (Software engineer, QA, architect, Devops, Tech Consultant)
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Long time never login to Lowyat Forum!!
Time to update the salary.
Despite covid-19 pandemic, i still receiving a lot of recruiter/headhunter PM, hence i received and accepted another job offer:

Job Title : QA Automation Engineer
Job Description : Develop and maintain automation code (python) for mobile app.
Age : 31
Years spent in company : < 6 months
Company : Cryptocurrency Company
Industry : Fintech
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining: 10 yrs (Including Malaysia)
Experience in Singapore: 7 yrs (Since 2014)
Highest paper qualification/ education background : B. Degree (IT)
Location : Singapore
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 44 +-

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : SGD 8500
Monthly Allowance: NA
Contractual Bonus (months): 0
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 10 - 40% of annual salary

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical Insurance
Transport Benefits : NA
Flexi Working Hours : Yes.
Leave: Annual Leave (21-25 days) + Birthday Leave + Work Anniversary Leave + Sick Leaves
Frank3
post Sep 1 2021, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(ultimate93 @ Aug 19 2021, 10:13 PM)
Im SW QA engineer too, with 3 ISTQB cert, tried to apply multiple SG based role, but no feed back so far… rclxub.gif
Is it very hard for experienced msian personal to get a job in sg compared to msian fresh grad?.
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If you are based on Malaysia currently, then it will harder to get a job if compare to those candidate who already based in Singapore.
SW QA engineer is a very hot role in Singapore now due to restriction of foreign talent from South Asia.
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post Mar 1 2022, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(Frank3 @ Jul 22 2021, 06:40 PM)
Long time never login to Lowyat Forum!!
Time to update the salary.
Despite covid-19 pandemic, i still receiving a lot of recruiter/headhunter PM, hence i received and accepted another job offer:

Job Title : QA Automation Engineer
Job Description : Develop and maintain automation code (python) for mobile app.
Age : 31
Years spent in company : < 6 months
Company : Cryptocurrency Company
Industry : Fintech
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining: 10 yrs (Including Malaysia)
Experience in Singapore: 7 yrs (Since 2014)
Highest paper qualification/ education background : B. Degree (IT)
Location : Singapore
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 44 +-

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : SGD 8500
Monthly Allowance: NA
Contractual Bonus (months): 0
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 10 - 40% of annual salary

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical Insurance
Transport Benefits : NA
Flexi Working Hours : Yes.
Leave: Annual Leave (21-25 days) + Birthday Leave + Work Anniversary Leave + Sick Leaves
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Time to update, after a year of working in this company.

Job Title : QA Automation Engineer
Job Description : Develop and maintain automation code (python) for mobile app.
Age : 32
Years spent in company : 1 year ++
Company : Cryptocurrency Company
Industry : Fintech
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining: 11 yrs (Including Malaysia)
Experience in Singapore: 8 yrs (Since 2014)
Highest paper qualification/ education background : B. Degree (IT)
Location : Singapore
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): 44 +-

Monetary Payout
Basic Salary + Fixed Allowance : SGD 9350 (10% increment from SGD 8500)
Monthly Allowance: NA
Contractual Bonus (months): 0
Performance, Variable Bonus & Commissions (months) : 100% of annual salary paid by cryptocurrency (vested 4 years: 1st year anniversary 10%, 2nd year 20%, 3rd year 30%, 4th year 40%)

Benefits (where relevant) :
Health Benefits : Medical Insurance
Transport Benefits : NA
Flexi Working Hours : Yes.
Leave: Annual Leave (21-25 days) + Birthday Leave + Work Anniversary Leave + Sick Leaves
Frank3
post Mar 3 2022, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(Darkcloudz @ Mar 3 2022, 08:59 AM)
Binance SG?
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Not Binance biggrin.gif , Binance actually offer remote job for full/part time for worldwide talent. I remember they mentioned will pay the salary in form of cryptocurrency (USDT/USDC).

QUOTE(GSCboy @ Mar 1 2022, 04:42 PM)
Seems like a hot topic nowadays, let me share mine too, I guess mine will be different than 99% here.

Job Title : Own Company
Age : 30 years old
Status: Semi-retired
Industry : IT/Tech
Highest paper qualification/ education background : Mechatronic Engineering Degree
Location : MY
Average Working Hours Per Week (incl lunch hours): < 5

22 YO -Engineering Grad
23 YO - Juinor Programmer  - One of the largest theatre chains in Msia = RM 3000
24 YO - Quit, joined some mobile apps Bootcamp for 6months, wanted to improve myself
25 YO - Mobile Developer , Startup = RM 3.6k + RM 300 allowance
26 YO - Promotion (Lead Mobile Developer), same company RM4500 + RM 300 allowance
4 Months later - Promotion (Project Manager) same company RM 7000 + RM 300 allowance + stock options
27 YO - Quit due to burnout. Took a break for 3 months.
27 YO - Went to equities trading, local trading firm. Base RM 2000 + (15% commission)
28 YO - Quit trading job due to toxic environment.

28 -30 YO - Went freelance; started own IT consultancy company. Providing solutions, especially blockchain/smart contracts. overseas client in USD. Due to the crypto market rising exponentially for these two years, was very lucky. Already made enough to retire, and a fixed passive income of 200 usd daily
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haha maybe bought BTC in super low price and now put them (sell BTC to stable coin like USDT/USDC) into some deposit, the daily interest can generate huge passive income?

This post has been edited by Frank3: Mar 3 2022, 03:26 PM
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post Mar 3 2022, 03:25 PM

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please remove this

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