I said should cukur get 13th month salary but my colik said we deserve it...he angry he only get 3 months bonus exclude 13th month....
He said he deserve min 4 months based on company performance....
Yes or no?

This post has been edited by dupreehere: Feb 2 2018, 12:24 PM

Anything beyond the stipulated 12m is a bonus.

in american company financial accounting ...it is no. 13 or 14th month is total salary package therefore consider as salary. however, the 13th month is tricky because it is use in some company as leverage.......to keep you from leaving. Some pro-rated while some don't give at all if u tender before bonus payout

That one contractual bonus..so considered as bonus la..+ 3 mths performance bonus = 4 mths

always 12 months in a year. never more, guaranteed less

This is what i told my colik/senior... but he said 13th month salary every1 deserve it...
He even told me he nvr work before in a company tat nvr pay 13th and company who do not include 13th month in salary package dont deserve his service....

wah, ur senior seems caliber to not work for any Malaysian or chinaman company

i also just got 13th month pay at my current company, i am cukur

then ask him berambus lah. why still work same company as you?

Then he shd leave

What so susah?

yr colik wanna find back like old companies example RobertKuok or Lee Rubber?

they paid out crazily 12 months bonus to 26 months bonus ...

but in ancient days la, dont think now still got

Some other countries like UK, they are paid weekly. In a year there are 52 weeks. So if you divide 52 by 4 you get 13 months. In HK, salary is paid monthly and some company will pay you 13th month and its stated in the contract.

13 month salary came about as usually there is 4 weeks in a month. So a year will be 48 weeks. Since I a calendar year is 52 weeks hence the 13 month salary.

However most company treat this part of your bonus instead of due salary.

13th month pay is contractual.
So not bonus,

Me cukur too get 13th month

My current company has 13th month in contract...all staff even cleaner have 13th month

Yeah... this was exactly what he told me....

U don't believe what he said

13 months salary means he will get 1 month bonus

My current company got 13th month

More than 12 months considered bonus already.

Your kolik got 3 months bonus still bising. Resign la your kolik, sembang lebih. Got extra pun bising.

i like how you think

Let's say we count all weekdays in each month, ignoring public holidays for 2018

Jan 23 days
Feb 20 days
Mar 22
Apr 21
May 23
Jun 21
Jul 22
Aug 23
Sep 20
Oct 23
Nov 22
Dec 21

There are 261 working days

if divide by 12 months, we need work 21.75 days to get our monthly pay.

If they company pay 13 months then they have to work 20 days to get their monthly pay.

In other words, without stated 13th month salary, we are working extra 1.75 days each month, compared to those who have 13th month salary contract for it.

Meanwhile in other K, wait 3 months also go get salary.

bonus means you get more then what you suppose base your letter of employment

hence contractual bonus is not a bonus

U mean wait 3 month for a job?

It is somewhat like a 'bonus' as in emolyee completed 1 year/12 months and get a sum of money of 1 month. An expected pay as per employment contract.

But is not an actual bonus where is announced per company and emolyee performance.

under performance staff also deserve this bonus ka? never heard u always ular also can get it, should cukur your boss didn't spotted that complaints 50 cents SGD issue until to MY, if not they will pay u only MYR salary not SGD

You work 13 month ka?

12 months...
my company pays AWS...
which means if work 12 months they pay u 13th month salary... another month salary
which my senior said is not bonus...

This post has been edited by dupreehere: Feb 22 2018, 05:54 PM

it depends on the amount,

if 12 x rm20000 = rm240,000

if 13 x rm5000 = rm65,000

if 13 x rm5000 + 3bonus x rm5000 = rm80,000

This post has been edited by 1stlady: Feb 22 2018, 05:56 PM

ur fren is korek.....

but u.... calculate how many weeks in a year then reply us

in fact... u also work 13 month (calculate in week)

understand?

why argue so much on such technicalities?

Tak suka resign lor.

Its simple.

ask oso kenot?

Cannn.. why cannot.

is a bonus.,..

Another name is Contractual Bonus.

Not sure if required under malaysian labour law..as almost all companies got give..

1 year = 52 weeks

52 weeks / 4 = 13

why only get 12 month?

13 month is not bonus

Is not bonus, it is due to the week vs month calculation as explained earlier. Certain company do try to excuse it as bonus...

For you to decide whether the 13th month pay is a bonus or base salary, the best way is to look at the marketplace rate for companies of the same size, industry, pay scope and job position.

Look at the similarities and discrepancies in the pay structure and then from there, you can conclude whether the 13th month is standard pay, bonus, or just another way for your corporate bosses to take advantage of you.

BTW, not easy to find a company that rewards on merit. Very rare animal. Also, from the other side of the river, employers find it difficult to issue merit based bonuses, because there will always be folks who get triggered and say boss is playing favouritism or not attentive enough to judge and record their performance and merits, etc.

The sweet spot for performance bonus, rewarding actual performers, and keeping the entire organization happy with the reward structure, is a very very tiny spot.

Is it in contract? Yes then deserve, no means don't deserve la. Apa susah?

Cukur lah all here talk bout 13months pay, I can get my salary on the following month also I cukur d