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 [wtf] AM3/DDR3/45nm in 2008?

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post May 4 2007, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(Suk @ May 4 2007, 01:16 PM)
[wtf] tag ???

btw, that's really wtf. see my rig below. i gonna got new rig c2d. now AM3 n DDR3 ....

no point upgrade high end computer nowaday.
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True enuf, thats y u guys should upgrade according to ur needs. For example, if AM2 is sufficient for now, just get a good mobo that supports it, then upgrade to the best X2 or FX that u can afford. Then the rest is just about ur graphic card and also the amount of memory and HDD needed. After all, for office work, BT, internet and chat, any X2 is more than sufficient at the moment, for the games, u just need to upgrade ur graphic cards.

Consider ourself lucky that Pci-E doesn't get any upgrade soon, otherwise, owners of 8-series will be crying if they wanna chase the new slot designs.

Like soulfly said earlier, users of S939 will continue to wait and wait for AM3 to AM4 and so on, coz currently the S939 with 2Gb of rams and a good Graphic card is already performing at its best, mayb got problem with future DX10 games only but the rest of the time, the system is still stable and fast for most tasks.

Keypoint here is: our software don't need AM3 to run, even the S754 is sufficient for daily work in XP, only Vista reqs a higher-specs rig.
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QUOTE(jy14 @ May 4 2007, 01:54 PM)
True enuf, thats y u guys should upgrade according to ur needs. For example, if AM2 is sufficient for now, just get a good mobo that supports it, then upgrade to the best X2 or FX that u can afford. Then the rest is just about ur graphic card and also the amount of memory and HDD needed. After all, for office work, BT, internet and chat, any X2 is more than sufficient at the moment, for the games, u just need to upgrade ur graphic cards.

Consider ourself lucky that Pci-E doesn't get any upgrade soon, otherwise, owners of 8-series will be crying if they wanna chase the new slot designs.

Like soulfly said earlier, users of S939 will continue to wait and wait for AM3 to AM4 and so on, coz currently the S939 with 2Gb of rams and a good Graphic card is already performing at its best, mayb got problem with future DX10 games only but the rest of the time, the system is still stable and fast for most tasks.

Keypoint here is: our software don't need AM3 to run, even the S754 is sufficient for daily work in XP, only Vista reqs a higher-specs rig.
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True... but computer technology is evolved too fast (my money invest fly fast too) sad.gif
Just hoping Agena core can use current am2 mobo :pray:


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post May 4 2007, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ May 4 2007, 02:25 PM)
True... but computer technology is evolved too fast (my money invest fly fast too) sad.gif
Just hoping Agena core can use current am2 mobo :pray:
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Well, it's the advancement in science and technology, but, when we really think of it properly, does ur MS Words, Firefox, or IE or those common software reqs Quadcore ? As far as I know, at the moment, only games reqs a better processor, therefore, any X2 is sufficient for daily usage. Mayb when the price of AM3 and DDR3 matures, then only we start to move into that direction lo. Anyway, an upgrade every 2 years is quite ok in my opinion, not too fast, not too slow.
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post May 4 2007, 03:08 PM

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I think Kuma and Agena will be the last products of AM2, or at least those are the only product of AM2+ sweat.gif
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post May 4 2007, 03:31 PM

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is it really in 2008..really want to make a new pc

hmm so afraid like the last time i buy the s939..then there come out the am2

the price will alys go down really quick
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post May 4 2007, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(charge-n-go @ May 3 2007, 11:24 PM)
Maybe one day we can change the IO Hub on our own based on the features we want. But this will very far away from now.
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It would still be pointless because any IO hub upgrade would still require more/different IO ports.
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post May 4 2007, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(ikanayam @ May 4 2007, 03:40 PM)
It would still be pointless because any IO hub upgrade would still require more/different IO ports.
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hahaha, maybe 10 years later we can even plug & play USB port/ SATA port onto some sockets on the mobo, depends on how great is the IOHub. Well, dunno it can be achieved or not, just some day dreaming since i've finished work much earlier than expected laugh.gif

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post May 4 2007, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(charge-n-go @ May 4 2007, 09:53 AM)
Actually AM2+ is misleading consumers in some way.

Back in socket A, every chipset change with higher FSB support doesnt change the name of the socket. We never see Socket A, Socket A+, Socket A++ or whatever.

Now, AMD decided to change the naming when the system bus is upgraded. AM2+ is a good example. It is exactly the same as AM2 socket, but with a different chipset and system bus, that's all.

AM2 --> AM2+ is as simple as Socket A with VIA KT333 --> socket A with VIA KT400A.
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but is it possible that am2+ will be based on ddr3?
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post May 4 2007, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(Radeon @ May 4 2007, 06:57 PM)
but is it possible that am2+ will be based on ddr3?
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Err I don't think so. Maybe AM2+ is the proc only since it can run on AM2. Agena and Kuma maybe will be produced in AM2+ and also AM3, just like the previous procs 939 and AM2. Same proc, different socket. I assume AM3 with DDR3.
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post May 4 2007, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(charge-n-go @ May 4 2007, 12:24 PM)
Maybe one day we can change the IO Hub on our own based on the features we want. But this will very far away from now.
So easily snap pictures? I am expecting they are top secrets, maybe ur cousin should not even tell you about it.
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want to know what she just msg me?...

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pin already change up to 1207.Higher FSB compare to intel extreme coz 4 core on 1 silicon die=4x1.intel 2x2 core so lack in processing data and FSB.1st revision got 2 type,server n desktop.expected launch julai-october.latest device 8 core use same tech as intel 4 core extreme but use 2x4 core.


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post May 5 2007, 01:05 AM

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ya.. agree with jy14, its even impossible to fully consume the dual cores now, even u open up to 5 HD videos simultaneously whistling.gif

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QUOTE(Suk @ May 4 2007, 01:16 PM)
[wtf] tag ???

btw, that's really wtf. see my rig below. i gonna got new rig c2d. now AM3 n DDR3 ....

no point upgrade high end computer nowaday.
technology never end.
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Buy now...both Mobo n DDR3 prices would be killing...not worth waiting for another year...IMO
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post May 5 2007, 08:08 AM

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QUOTE(Oly @ May 4 2007, 11:53 PM)
want to know what she just msg me?...
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QUOTE(Oly @ May 4 2007, 11:53 PM)
pin already change up to 1207.Higher FSB compare to intel extreme coz 4 core on 1 silicon die=4x1.intel 2x2 core so lack in processing data and FSB.1st revision got 2 type,server n desktop.expected launch julai-october.latest device 8 core use same tech as intel 4 core extreme but use 2x4 core.
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doh.gif . amd didn use FSB since ages ago. ur cousin is just a lucky guy to work there, this simple stuff also dunno.
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OH MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i dun like dis type of news.......

2008... hmm still far....

maybe i shud overclock my AM2 kaw kaw....

den upgrade to AM3
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QUOTE(Oly @ May 4 2007, 11:53 PM)
want to know what she just msg me?...
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pin already change up to 1207.Higher FSB compare to intel extreme coz 4 core on 1 silicon die=4x1.intel 2x2 core so lack in processing data and FSB.1st revision got 2 type,server n desktop.expected launch julai-october.latest device 8 core use same tech as intel 4 core extreme but use 2x4 core.


1. 1207 pin/pad = socket F which has been around for a while.
2. Intel 2x2 core has been proven to be quite kick-ass despite the FSB bottleneck. Going to overlook the FSB snafu your cousin made for now.
3. K10 launches in 2H07 but it's going to be a soft launch; Hector himself has confirmed they can only ramp in 08.
4. AMD using MCM approach!? I can picture Henri Richards spinning that one. wink.gif

Oh BTW be careful of disclosing info on public forums. Your cousin might not have a job next time. sweat.gif
You don't see me or chargie yapping about what's coming unless it's already announced.
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post May 5 2007, 04:58 PM

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AMD wont simply throw in AM3 unless the DDR3 make it to main stream market..... AMD would lost a lot of market share then.......
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QUOTE(cks2k2 @ May 5 2007, 10:02 AM)
1. 1207 pin/pad = socket F which has been around for a while.
2. Intel 2x2 core has been proven to be quite kick-ass despite the FSB bottleneck. Going to overlook the FSB snafu your cousin made for now.
3. K10 launches in 2H07 but it's going to be a soft launch; Hector himself has confirmed they can only ramp in 08.
4. AMD using MCM approach!? I can picture Henri Richards spinning that one.  wink.gif

Oh BTW be careful of disclosing info on public forums. Your cousin might not have a job next time.  sweat.gif
You don't see me or chargie yapping about what's coming unless it's already announced.
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ok2...will not tell to anyone...my last msg about this AMD thinggy...save her job...
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post May 5 2007, 08:32 PM

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Found some info regarding AM2+ & AM3 in Wikipedia, might be useful ...


AM2+
AM3

Seems AM2, AM2+ & AM3 share a similarity; the 940-contact socket.

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post May 5 2007, 09:00 PM

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QUOTE(GeneralX @ May 5 2007, 08:32 PM)
Found some info regarding AM2+ & AM3 in Wikipedia, might be useful ...
AM2+
AM3

Seems AM2, AM2+ & AM3 share a similarity; the 940-contact socket.
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940 and AM2 is different, although AM2 sometimes referred as 940. 940 is for most Opterons.

Just wondering, how is it AM2 proc will fit into AM3 board, but AM3 proc will NOT fit into AM2 board? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(afosz @ May 5 2007, 09:00 PM)
940 and AM2 is different, although AM2 sometimes referred as 940. 940 is for most Opterons.

Just wondering, how is it AM2 proc will fit into AM3 board, but AM3 proc will NOT fit into AM2 board? hmm.gif
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sweat.gif I mean, they are pin-to-pin compatible, since AM2+ fits AM2, AM3 fits AM2+ & vice versa.

I think it has something to do with HyperTransport. Well, that's of what I heard of. hmm.gif

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