The link "AM2 and AM3 would be forward/backward compatible" in the article implied AM2+ is AM3, and that AM2+ can support both DDR2 and DDR3
What happen to that now and why a new socket again in place of AM2+?
[wtf] AM3/DDR3/45nm in 2008?
[wtf] AM3/DDR3/45nm in 2008?
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May 3 2007, 08:17 PM
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The link "AM2 and AM3 would be forward/backward compatible" in the article implied AM2+ is AM3, and that AM2+ can support both DDR2 and DDR3
What happen to that now and why a new socket again in place of AM2+? |
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May 3 2007, 08:47 PM
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LOL catching up technologies only burn your pocket
Once AM3 releases, the price sure a bit |
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May 3 2007, 10:33 PM
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quite shame amd...killing they own self to chase ppl shadow..not a good idea for them change another socket to upgrade...seem like intel now become valueble and amd for budget only...
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May 4 2007, 05:07 AM
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my cousin working in AMD penang...she said they will launched their quad core this year and 8 core next year...start saving ur money now...
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May 4 2007, 06:54 AM
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QUOTE(Oly @ May 4 2007, 05:07 AM) my cousin working in AMD penang...she said they will launched their quad core this year and 8 core next year...start saving ur money now... this info doesnt help at all ask her to take a ES barcelona chip out and give it to reliable reviewers (tomshardware, anandtech) to do a benchmark. |
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May 4 2007, 07:01 AM
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QUOTE(Oly @ May 4 2007, 05:07 AM) my cousin working in AMD penang...she said they will launched their quad core this year and 8 core next year...start saving ur money now... Thanks for the info, but why we wanna use quad since 8 core is just 1 year after, you know what I mean QUOTE(edwin3210 @ May 4 2007, 06:54 AM) At least he's trying to give out some info. Some of us might not know about this |
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May 4 2007, 08:59 AM
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zzz...AM3 again...AMD changing the socket too fast i think
Bad news for AM2 users like me ...:SAD: -pWs- |
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May 4 2007, 09:12 AM
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it will take some time... but for sure the price will lil expensive the am2 at the first, leter the price will reduce when am2 product phaseout
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May 4 2007, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE(-pWs- @ May 4 2007, 08:59 AM) zzz...AM3 again...AMD changing the socket too fast i think no choice, our technology is moving way too fast, and the chips are much cheaper compare to oldern days. Hence manufacturers usually don't expect desktop consumers to upgrade a single CPU after 3 years. They expect you to change to a whole new system. It is very obvious when Intel says it is going to debut a new micro architecture every 2 years.Bad news for AM2 users like me ...:SAD: -pWs- |
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May 4 2007, 09:20 AM
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QUOTE(capcomfly @ May 3 2007, 10:33 PM) quite shame amd...killing they own self to chase ppl shadow..not a good idea for them change another socket to upgrade...seem like intel now become valueble and amd for budget only... you're still very wrongeverytime intel changes architecture, although it's the same socket... most likely it'll need new chipset and amd motherboards are often way affordable than intel's.... minus those generic/cheapo ones...which are more or less just the same. |
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May 4 2007, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ May 3 2007, 08:00 PM) Why they want to put in some transition product like AM2+ , nth difference than AM2 except HT 3.0 and better power saving it is because this thing has been planned years before and there is no ddr3 on the market now, amd have to do something else they gonna lose more moneyi recommend the next upgrade should bypass AM2+ |
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May 4 2007, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(Radeon @ May 4 2007, 09:29 AM) it is because this thing has been planned years before and there is no ddr3 on the market now, amd have to do something else they gonna lose more money Actually AM2+ is misleading consumers in some way.Back in socket A, every chipset change with higher FSB support doesnt change the name of the socket. We never see Socket A, Socket A+, Socket A++ or whatever. Now, AMD decided to change the naming when the system bus is upgraded. AM2+ is a good example. It is exactly the same as AM2 socket, but with a different chipset and system bus, that's all. AM2 --> AM2+ is as simple as Socket A with VIA KT333 --> socket A with VIA KT400A. |
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May 4 2007, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(charge-n-go @ May 4 2007, 09:53 AM) Actually AM2+ is misleading consumers in some way. hmm...i heard with the old news that future mobo will be "chipset upgradeable"(just like how we upgrade our cpu. dunno when will we get that.Back in socket A, every chipset change with higher FSB support doesnt change the name of the socket. We never see Socket A, Socket A+, Socket A++ or whatever. Now, AMD decided to change the naming when the system bus is upgraded. AM2+ is a good example. It is exactly the same as AM2 socket, but with a different chipset and system bus, that's all. AM2 --> AM2+ is as simple as Socket A with VIA KT333 --> socket A with VIA KT400A. This post has been edited by edwin3210: May 4 2007, 10:59 AM |
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May 4 2007, 11:36 AM
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Not in the near future. Besides, it is only possible if there is no system bus changes on the motherboard.
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May 4 2007, 11:37 AM
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wah now not only u have to choose CPU to install u have to choose chipset to install as well............. how does the mother board goin to look like...........
imagine ur mobo has 3 main chips. 1 south and 1 north bridge, + n core CPU........ and n stream processor of GPU.......... how many pc we have within our own pc by that time....... |
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May 4 2007, 11:57 AM
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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ May 3 2007, 09:59 PM) hmm...i heard with the old news that future mobo will be "chipset upgradeable"(just like how we upgrade our cpu. dunno when will we get that. Things are moving to tighter integration, so pretty sure chipset upgrades won't be coming. They'll just be completely built into the cpu. |
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May 4 2007, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ May 4 2007, 06:54 AM) this info doesnt help at all i allready ask her for a quad core engineering sample proc...she will try...ask her to take a ES barcelona chip out and give it to reliable reviewers (tomshardware, anandtech) to do a benchmark. Added on May 4, 2007, 12:14 pmfrom what i heard the new 8 core use two die...mean 2 4 core proc in one...thats what she said...i will ask her to snap for some picture... This post has been edited by Oly: May 4 2007, 12:14 PM |
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May 4 2007, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE(ikanayam @ May 4 2007, 11:57 AM) Things are moving to tighter integration, so pretty sure chipset upgrades won't be coming. They'll just be completely built into the cpu. Maybe one day we can change the IO Hub on our own based on the features we want. But this will very far away from now.QUOTE(Oly @ May 4 2007, 12:11 PM) from what i heard the new 8 core use two die...mean 2 4 core proc in one...thats what she said...i will ask her to snap for some picture... So easily snap pictures? I am expecting they are top secrets, maybe ur cousin should not even tell you about it. |
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May 4 2007, 01:16 PM
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[wtf] tag ???
btw, that's really wtf. see my rig below. i gonna got new rig c2d. now AM3 n DDR3 .... no point upgrade high end computer nowaday. technology never end. |
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May 4 2007, 01:53 PM
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