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 [wtf] AM3/DDR3/45nm in 2008?

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post May 3 2007, 08:17 PM

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The link "AM2 and AM3 would be forward/backward compatible" in the article implied AM2+ is AM3, and that AM2+ can support both DDR2 and DDR3

What happen to that now and why a new socket again in place of AM2+?

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post May 3 2007, 08:47 PM

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LOL catching up technologies only burn your pocket laugh.gif

Once AM3 releases, the price sure a bit sweat.gif While waiting for price cut, there will be more news about AM4 releasing, but before that 8 core from Intel maybe doh.gif It'll be a never ending. Buy wisely thumbup.gif
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post May 3 2007, 10:33 PM

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quite shame amd...killing they own self to chase ppl shadow..not a good idea for them change another socket to upgrade...seem like intel now become valueble and amd for budget only... hmm.gif
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post May 4 2007, 05:07 AM

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my cousin working in AMD penang...she said they will launched their quad core this year and 8 core next year...start saving ur money now...

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post May 4 2007, 06:54 AM

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QUOTE(Oly @ May 4 2007, 05:07 AM)
my cousin working in AMD penang...she said they will launched their quad core this year and 8 core next year...start saving ur money now...
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this info doesnt help at all doh.gif no need to work there also know lar doh.gif

ask her to take a ES barcelona chip out and give it to reliable reviewers (tomshardware, anandtech) to do a benchmark.
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post May 4 2007, 07:01 AM

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QUOTE(Oly @ May 4 2007, 05:07 AM)
my cousin working in AMD penang...she said they will launched their quad core this year and 8 core next year...start saving ur money now...
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Thanks for the info, but why we wanna use quad since 8 core is just 1 year after, you know what I mean brows.gif

QUOTE(edwin3210 @ May 4 2007, 06:54 AM)
this info doesnt help at all  doh.gif no need to work there also know lar  doh.gif
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At least he's trying to give out some info. Some of us might not know about this shakehead.gif
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post May 4 2007, 08:59 AM

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zzz...AM3 again...AMD changing the socket too fast i think sad.gif
Bad news for AM2 users like me ...:SAD:


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post May 4 2007, 09:12 AM

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it will take some time... but for sure the price will lil expensive the am2 at the first, leter the price will reduce when am2 product phaseout
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post May 4 2007, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(-pWs- @ May 4 2007, 08:59 AM)
zzz...AM3 again...AMD changing the socket too fast i think sad.gif
Bad news for AM2 users like me ...:SAD:
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no choice, our technology is moving way too fast, and the chips are much cheaper compare to oldern days. Hence manufacturers usually don't expect desktop consumers to upgrade a single CPU after 3 years. They expect you to change to a whole new system. It is very obvious when Intel says it is going to debut a new micro architecture every 2 years.
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QUOTE(capcomfly @ May 3 2007, 10:33 PM)
quite shame amd...killing they own self to chase ppl shadow..not a good idea for them change another socket to upgrade...seem like intel now become valueble and amd for budget only... hmm.gif
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you're still very wrong
everytime intel changes architecture, although it's the same socket... most likely it'll need new chipset

and amd motherboards are often way affordable than intel's.... minus those generic/cheapo ones...which are more or less just the same.
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QUOTE(dattebayo @ May 3 2007, 08:00 PM)
Why they want to put in some transition product like AM2+ , nth difference than AM2 except HT 3.0 and better power saving

i recommend the next upgrade should bypass AM2+ whistling.gif
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it is because this thing has been planned years before and there is no ddr3 on the market now, amd have to do something else they gonna lose more money
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post May 4 2007, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(Radeon @ May 4 2007, 09:29 AM)
it is because this thing has been planned years before and there is no ddr3 on the market now, amd have to do something else they gonna lose more money
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Actually AM2+ is misleading consumers in some way.

Back in socket A, every chipset change with higher FSB support doesnt change the name of the socket. We never see Socket A, Socket A+, Socket A++ or whatever.

Now, AMD decided to change the naming when the system bus is upgraded. AM2+ is a good example. It is exactly the same as AM2 socket, but with a different chipset and system bus, that's all.

AM2 --> AM2+ is as simple as Socket A with VIA KT333 --> socket A with VIA KT400A.
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QUOTE(charge-n-go @ May 4 2007, 09:53 AM)
Actually AM2+ is misleading consumers in some way.

Back in socket A, every chipset change with higher FSB support doesnt change the name of the socket. We never see Socket A, Socket A+, Socket A++ or whatever.

Now, AMD decided to change the naming when the system bus is upgraded. AM2+ is a good example. It is exactly the same as AM2 socket, but with a different chipset and system bus, that's all.

AM2 --> AM2+ is as simple as Socket A with VIA KT333 --> socket A with VIA KT400A.
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hmm...i heard with the old news that future mobo will be "chipset upgradeable"(just like how we upgrade our cpu. dunno when will we get that.

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post May 4 2007, 11:36 AM

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Not in the near future. Besides, it is only possible if there is no system bus changes on the motherboard.
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post May 4 2007, 11:37 AM

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wah now not only u have to choose CPU to install u have to choose chipset to install as well............. how does the mother board goin to look like...........

imagine ur mobo has 3 main chips. 1 south and 1 north bridge, + n core CPU........ and n stream processor of GPU.......... how many pc we have within our own pc by that time.......

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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ May 3 2007, 09:59 PM)
hmm...i heard with the old news that future mobo will be "chipset upgradeable"(just like how we upgrade our cpu. dunno when will we get that.
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Things are moving to tighter integration, so pretty sure chipset upgrades won't be coming. They'll just be completely built into the cpu.
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QUOTE(edwin3210 @ May 4 2007, 06:54 AM)
this info doesnt help at all  doh.gif no need to work there also know lar  doh.gif

ask her to take a ES barcelona chip out and give it to reliable reviewers (tomshardware, anandtech) to do a benchmark.
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i allready ask her for a quad core engineering sample proc...she will try...


Added on May 4, 2007, 12:14 pmfrom what i heard the new 8 core use two die...mean 2 4 core proc in one...thats what she said...i will ask her to snap for some picture...

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post May 4 2007, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(ikanayam @ May 4 2007, 11:57 AM)
Things are moving to tighter integration, so pretty sure chipset upgrades won't be coming. They'll just be completely built into the cpu.
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Maybe one day we can change the IO Hub on our own based on the features we want. But this will very far away from now.

QUOTE(Oly @ May 4 2007, 12:11 PM)
from what i heard the new 8 core use two die...mean 2 4 core proc in one...thats what she said...i will ask her to snap for some picture...
So easily snap pictures? I am expecting they are top secrets, maybe ur cousin should not even tell you about it.
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post May 4 2007, 01:16 PM

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[wtf] tag ???

btw, that's really wtf. see my rig below. i gonna got new rig c2d. now AM3 n DDR3 ....

no point upgrade high end computer nowaday.
technology never end.
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QUOTE(Suk @ May 4 2007, 02:16 PM)
[wtf] tag ???

btw, that's really wtf. see my rig below. i gonna got new rig c2d. now AM3 n DDR3 ....

no point upgrade high end computer nowaday.
technology never end.
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Dude, you just know that kar? rolleyes.gif OLD news le.. yawn.gif tongue.gif

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