Used preve is very cheap, is it problematics? Good to buy? Anyone can share their stories?
Used proton preve, Good?
Used proton preve, Good?
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Jan 23 2018, 05:20 PM, updated 8y ago
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Used preve is very cheap, is it problematics? Good to buy? Anyone can share their stories?
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Jan 23 2018, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE(Cy016 @ Jan 23 2018, 05:20 PM) Good to buy considering the price. Drives well and quite spacious. Want better fc and less problem then go for the non-turbo version. Service also cheaper for the non-turbo version. |
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Jan 23 2018, 05:32 PM
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No need listen to dupe lah. Proton has made many improvements over the years and their latest models actually not that bad. The Preve is ok ok lah. As usual, QC is still 50/50. You will either get a lemon or it will have no problems.
But the Preve has one design flaw and that is the engine CC is too weak for the weight. You will need to rev a lot to feel responsive between 0-50kmh. Unless the price is dirt cheap, I would not recommend Preve. |
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Jan 23 2018, 05:33 PM
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one major problem, mounting is weak
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Jan 23 2018, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(jerm57 @ Jan 23 2018, 05:32 PM) No need listen to dupe lah. Proton has made many improvements over the years and their latest models actually not that bad. The Preve is ok ok lah. As usual, QC is still 50/50. You will either get a lemon or it will have no problems. its not the CC la dey... But the Preve has one design flaw and that is the engine CC is too weak for the weight. You will need to rev a lot to feel responsive between 0-50kmh. Unless the price is dirt cheap, I would not recommend Preve. its the slowpoke punch powertrain CVT.... arinpresto liked this post
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Jan 23 2018, 05:34 PM
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better stay away from turbo version i own exec n follow several fb group of preve. mostly getting headache n want to sell. sepamOK liked this post
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Jan 23 2018, 05:36 PM
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Not bad for a cheap turbo car. Better than my Peugeot 3008. Lost to one recently. Haih.
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Jan 23 2018, 05:38 PM
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Love the stiff steering feedback.
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Jan 23 2018, 05:40 PM
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By all means, go for Manual tranny.
Its a solid car , FC not good cause its a heavy car but its really a value for money car. |
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not bad preve
pick up fast tapau my elantra before even i cannot chase wa kemaluan busar LEL This post has been edited by mafioso: Jan 23 2018, 05:41 PM |
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Beware if car is over 60k (real mileage not temprered)
My car after 60k, need to spend for major services (normal) battery replacement (normal) tayar (normal) although my tayar no need to change at 60k because already change at 40k. Radiator fan relay around rm50 (not normal). Aircond fusebox (not normal luckily still under warranty). If turbo have to see oil cooler hose already replace or not. I think just prepare at least additional 5k |
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Jan 23 2018, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(hafizhans @ Jan 23 2018, 05:34 PM) better stay away from turbo version i own exec n follow several fb group of preve. mostly getting headache n want to sell. QUOTE(99FoxDemon @ Jan 23 2018, 05:40 PM) Also what i noticed. May turbo owner complained sengguk senguk after started the engine. I noticed they started the car using the push start wrongly |
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Jan 23 2018, 05:48 PM
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If money is your problem
Than u are making more money problem when buying preeve |
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Jan 23 2018, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE(jerm57 @ Jan 23 2018, 05:32 PM) No need listen to dupe lah. Proton has made many improvements over the years and their latest models actually not that bad. The Preve is ok ok lah. As usual, QC is still 50/50. You will either get a lemon or it will have no problems. "Rev" higher but rpm still ok. Normall acceleration never exceeds 3k rpm for meBut the Preve has one design flaw and that is the engine CC is too weak for the weight. You will need to rev a lot to feel responsive between 0-50kmh. Unless the price is dirt cheap, I would not recommend Preve. |
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Jan 23 2018, 05:51 PM
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0-200 my 1.0t can tapao this 1.6t car. But after 200 this car still got some juice left
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Jan 23 2018, 05:51 PM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Stupid proton relay also cost RM50??? Saga flx cost around rm15-20 for bosch |
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Jan 23 2018, 05:52 PM
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QUOTE(Cy016 @ Jan 23 2018, 05:20 PM) Check age & mileage. If < 5 years, still got warranty. Be prepared to spend on (1 time cost): 1) Mountings 2) Suspension (absorbers + mounts) 3) Rear upper arm These 3 things break 1st, but once fixed, you'll love the ride. QUOTE(digilife @ Jan 23 2018, 05:40 PM) By all means, go for Manual tranny. Right & right. But the CVT can do 140km/h @2000rpm. If you're on the highway mostly, you'll love this. Plus, if you get the TCU updated, it's much better than it was before.Its a solid car , FC not good cause its a heavy car but its really a value for money car. Regards, Manual Preve Owner |
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Jan 23 2018, 05:57 PM
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Jan 23 2018, 05:58 PM
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Good car actually...
I was loaned a HQ lack love unit... Totally abused inside out with paint peeling off and interior bits broken...heck! Even the Proton logo disappeared due to the abuse (as in half was missing after a long period under the sun)... But if the drive was good and the most surprising part is, no rattling or 🐀 noise! FC was better than the Campro in a Gen2... |
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Jan 23 2018, 06:01 PM
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Set a right mindset for the price you pay for the car. It exceeded my expectation. or maybe my expectation is not high to begin with. Hahaha...
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if u want cheap car but less problems get a used persona instead! at least the spare parts won't be expensive.
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Jan 23 2018, 06:35 PM
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QUOTE(Eric_Chia @ Jan 23 2018, 05:31 PM) Good to buy considering the price. Drives well and quite spacious. Want better fc and less problem then go for the non-turbo version. Service also cheaper for the non-turbo version. non turbo are just same as Saga blm or Persona elegance lel......QUOTE(maxizanc @ Jan 23 2018, 05:41 PM) Beware if car is over 60k (real mileage not temprered) what car will not has problem after long use , even new car will need to change these part when the mileages reach , unless most /k practice change new car every 2~3 years My car after 60k, need to spend for major services (normal) battery replacement (normal) tayar (normal) although my tayar no need to change at 60k because already change at 40k. Radiator fan relay around rm50 (not normal). Aircond fusebox (not normal luckily still under warranty). If turbo have to see oil cooler hose already replace or not. I think just prepare at least additional 5k |
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QUOTE(jerm57 @ Jan 23 2018, 05:50 PM) The weight also a factor looo. Try the Saga or Iriz CVT and confirm you will feel a difference in responsiveness. Preve really should have been at least 2.0. R u kidding? My mercedes e250 is 2.0, u saying preve should be same as it? 1.6 turbo should be more than enough for preve size. Blame it on preve lousy engine and gearbox design. Too inefficient |
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QUOTE(GoldenHawk @ Jan 23 2018, 05:53 PM) Check age & mileage. If < 5 years, still got warranty. What is the symptom od the problematic rear upper arm? Do you mean the kruk kruk sound from rear suspension?Be prepared to spend on (1 time cost): 1) Mountings 2) Suspension (absorbers + mounts) 3) Rear upper arm These 3 things break 1st, but once fixed, you'll love the ride. Right & right. But the CVT can do 140km/h @2000rpm. If you're on the highway mostly, you'll love this. Plus, if you get the TCU updated, it's much better than it was before. Regards, Manual Preve Owner |
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change mivec 1.6 engine rm6k
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Jan 23 2018, 08:02 PM
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the only thing i hate about preve is cvt tumbuk. and other small2 things which still can be consider. but that cvt tumbuk seriously cant take it
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when i young like to baiki car but now no time.
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coming up to 6 years, not much big problems for my turbo version.
CVT is sluggish and need to really get used to it going out of junctions. but on the highway is a very nice machine. fully maintained by proton edar SC and recently changed timinng belt. feel like changing to 7 seater due to family expanded but resisting the temptation 😁 |
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my brother got forte, turbo 1 jimat minyak dari forte aku.
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The peeve has a major design flaw.
Look at the headlights and front grill. Very flat looking and small headlights. Something not right The back is too chunky as the car rises too steeply to the back. The turbo engine performs just like a NA engine, I wouldn’t even call it a turbo, look at the spec, very slow and underpowered. Don’t get me started with the cvt gearbox No wonder you do not see any peeves on the road these days Avoid this vehicle by all cost. This post has been edited by abhipraaya: Jan 23 2018, 10:30 PM |
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Jan 23 2018, 10:27 PM
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I have a Preve Turbo version. Year 2012. Mileage 205k km. Running just fine. Remap + chipped roughly got 150-160HP , 220-240Nm..
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My neighbour hantam her wife preve as a grab car...
Morning til night he hantam... Every 4-5 days mesti masuk bengkel ada je benda kena repair 😂😅😓 |
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Jan 23 2018, 07:36 PM) What is the symptom od the problematic rear upper arm? Do you mean the kruk kruk sound from rear suspension? is that what it is? mine have that sound too but i just can't be bothered.QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jan 24 2018, 01:41 AM) My neighbour hantam her wife preve as a grab car... hahaha use preve as grab car memang tak balik modal Morning til night he hantam... Every 4-5 days mesti masuk bengkel ada je benda kena repair 😂😅😓 |
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Jan 23 2018, 07:36 PM) What is the symptom of the problematic rear upper arm? Do you mean the kruk kruk sound from rear suspension? Yup. Same sound as a busted front lower arm... QUOTE(abhipraaya @ Jan 23 2018, 10:21 PM) The peeve has a major design flaw. Wow... I bet you're on of Ferrari's designers. Such insightful comments... much to think of Look at the headlights and front grill. Very flat looking and small headlights. Something not right The back is too chunky as the car rises too steeply to the back. The turbo engine performs just like a NA engine, I wouldn’t even call it a turbo, look at the spec, very slow and underpowered. Don’t get me started with the cvt gearbox No wonder you do not see any peeves on the road these days Avoid this vehicle by all cost. QUOTE(mar90 @ Jan 23 2018, 10:27 PM) I have a Preve Turbo version. Year 2012. Mileage 205k km. Running just fine. Remap + chipped roughly got 150-160HP , 220-240Nm.. Gang |
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Jan 24 2018, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Jan 23 2018, 04:41 PM) Beware if car is over 60k (real mileage not temprered) what? my car clocked 170k++ only once change battery. all those stuffs u mention oso never change..still working flawlessly. tyre it's normal lah..it's only rubber and tends to wear out with usage. the only major service that i did was timing belt replacement at 95k. minor service (engine oil, spark plugs, gear oil) no need to countlah..just replace them periodically. persona.My car after 60k, need to spend for major services (normal) battery replacement (normal) tayar (normal) although my tayar no need to change at 60k because already change at 40k. Radiator fan relay around rm50 (not normal). Aircond fusebox (not normal luckily still under warranty). If turbo have to see oil cooler hose already replace or not. I think just prepare at least additional 5k |
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QUOTE(iverice @ Jan 24 2018, 10:35 AM) cvt tumbuk or cvt punch (real name) is the preve gearbox. its not a problem but it is cvt punch nature. lag and delay whenever u wanna move ur car from stop for example at traffic light. u cant drive like how u did on normal 4AT car. u need to give it a time before u can move. this nature of cvt punch makes ppl think there are some serious problem in preve but actually it is not. ofcourse it is no longer a problem if u manage to tame it. give it a time then u know how to handle the car.but, if u buy the mt version, u will not experience such issue. |
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QUOTE(lol~ @ Jan 24 2018, 11:01 AM) cvt tumbuk or cvt punch (real name) is the preve gearbox. its not a problem but it is cvt punch nature. lag and delay whenever u wanna move ur car from stop for example at traffic light. u cant drive like how u did on normal 4AT car. u need to give it a time before u can move. this nature of cvt punch makes ppl think there are some serious problem in preve but actually it is not. ofcourse it is no longer a problem if u manage to tame it. give it a time then u know how to handle the car. Means it sucks lor. I drive many CVTs. So far, Honda's new CVT is the best. Better than same class AT.but, if u buy the mt version, u will not experience such issue. |
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QUOTE(fatani @ Jan 24 2018, 10:58 AM) what? my car clocked 170k++ only once change battery. all those stuffs u mention oso never change..still working flawlessly. tyre it's normal lah..it's only rubber and tends to wear out with usage. the only major service that i did was timing belt replacement at 95k. minor service (engine oil, spark plugs, gear oil) no need to countlah..just replace them periodically. persona. Aiyo why you tok Bout persona. My post for ts is for preve la. |
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QUOTE(lol~ @ Jan 24 2018, 11:01 AM) cvt tumbuk or cvt punch (real name) is the preve gearbox. its not a problem but it is cvt punch nature. lag and delay whenever u wanna move ur car from stop for example at traffic light. u cant drive like how u did on normal 4AT car. u need to give it a time before u can move. this nature of cvt punch makes ppl think there are some serious problem in preve but actually it is not. ofcourse it is no longer a problem if u manage to tame it. give it a time then u know how to handle the car. but, if u buy the mt version, u will not experience such issue. Actually, the newer TCU updates help a lot... or at least that's what I heard lah But I agree with you on the manual P/S: How come so many trolls on this thread? P/S/A: Baru perasan, it's in /k/ This post has been edited by GoldenHawk: Jan 24 2018, 11:10 AM |
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preve owner here, currently at 40km mileage.
so far no not much problem, got major service at 40km for 500RM (proton edar service) but i agree the power is lacking, still good enough for city driving. it's comfortable and that's what is important in a very jam city driving. reliable and never dies on me while driving on the road. |
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QUOTE(fatani @ Jan 24 2018, 11:19 AM) hadoi..my apologies..i thought u wrote about used car in general..didnt realise preve maintenance is that bad Yeah. But mine still ok. Compared to many other Preve users out there.But my car i used to lenjan for grab for 1+ month. If u tok about old Persona, that car is quite reliable to me. This post has been edited by maxizanc: Jan 24 2018, 11:30 AM |
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Preve turbo owner since 2014. mileage 55k km.
So far no major problems, sluggish acceleration from 0-100 due to cvt, but accelerating from 100-140 is very fast, on highways I enjoy this car very much as I'm not afraid to overtake other vehicles as I know the car has the power to do so. If you like to drive at high speed I can say this car is very stable up to 160kmh, I guess it is because of the weight of the car which contributes to the stability of the car. I have drove honda city at 140km/h and its clear that preve is more stable. I am unsure of the mounting issue, but I guess most of the problems may arise due to the way the user drives the car itself. maybe they like to langgar bumper and drive aggressively. I guess if you drive properly you won't be seeing this issue. Although the preve does suck fuel like a tank in city jams, since its built like one, on highway just treat the fuel consumption like a 2l car. There are those little2 things like minor vibrations on door panels, cvt vibrations and NVH that may affect your driving experience. |
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QUOTE(lol~ @ Jan 24 2018, 11:01 AM) cvt tumbuk or cvt punch (real name) is the preve gearbox. its not a problem but it is cvt punch nature. lag and delay whenever u wanna move ur car from stop for example at traffic light. u cant drive like how u did on normal 4AT car. u need to give it a time before u can move. this nature of cvt punch makes ppl think there are some serious problem in preve but actually it is not. ofcourse it is no longer a problem if u manage to tame it. give it a time then u know how to handle the car. If you know how to drive it, then wont be a problembut, if u buy the mt version, u will not experience such issue. I am driving Preve, no problem at traffic light. QUOTE(GoldenHawk @ Jan 24 2018, 11:09 AM) Actually, the newer TCU updates help a lot... or at least that's what I heard lah Newer TCU update? when?But I agree with you on the manual P/S: How come so many trolls on this thread? P/S/A: Baru perasan, it's in /k/ QUOTE(joe_kopitiam @ Jan 24 2018, 11:16 AM) NO1 is punch CVT, but can tame.No2 is NVH |
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Punch CVT. 1 of the main cause of Proton's downfall
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QUOTE(MarioKart @ Jan 24 2018, 11:04 AM) Means it sucks lor. I drive many CVTs. So far, Honda's new CVT is the best. Better than same class AT. yes but after the below, it does improve a lot. i tried it on the new persona and iriz MC. yes it has become more responsive and better. QUOTE(GoldenHawk @ Jan 24 2018, 11:09 AM) |
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QUOTE(jmas @ Jan 24 2018, 11:30 AM) If you know how to drive it, then wont be a problem Why so many complain about Preve's NVH ah lolI am driving Preve, no problem at traffic light. Newer TCU update? when? NO1 is punch CVT, but can tame. No2 is NVH Other than the engine loud sound during accelration, otger area quite ok. Road noises, outside noises all ok to me. At least way better than mibi and saga la. For that price you lose some you get some la This post has been edited by maxizanc: Jan 24 2018, 11:39 AM |
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Jan 24 2018, 11:28 AM) lucky you. most drivers not so lucky.>engine noise >CVT whine >wind noise from the rear >even the driver seat is noisy >once the mounting wears out after 1-2 years (give or take), enjoy endless hours of rattle to drive this car is to be a masochist |
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Jan 24 2018, 11:38 AM) Why so many complain about Preve's NVH ah lol At least old saga and myvi no cvt whine. When you push it uphill to genting, the cvt whine like crazy.Other than the engine loud sound during accelration, otger area quite ok. Road noises, outside noises all ok to me. At least way better than mibi and saga la. For that price you lose some you get some la This post has been edited by k!nex: Jan 24 2018, 11:48 AM |
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Jan 24 2018, 11:38 AM) Why so many complain about Preve's NVH ah lol I got it new, and its the cheapest C-seg car available on the marketOther than the engine loud sound during accelration, otger area quite ok. Roaf noisez, outside noises all ok to me. At least way better than mibi and saga la. For that price you lose some you get some la NVH is subjective thing, I dont get the loud engine noise/gear noise, but I got the wind noise from door (can be fix with rubber strip) |
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QUOTE(GoldenHawk @ Jan 24 2018, 11:09 AM) Actually, the newer TCU updates help a lot... or at least that's what I heard lah But now new Preve 2018 no more MT in production !!!But I agree with you on the manual P/S: How come so many trolls on this thread? P/S/A: Baru perasan, it's in /k/ What could be the reason ? |
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QUOTE(Kwar @ Jan 24 2018, 11:30 AM) Preve turbo owner since 2014. mileage 55k km. The car is solid and stable even at 210km/h, just that the engine and gearbox noise is so damn loud at that speed even you turn radio full blast also still cannot beat the loudness of engine roarSo far no major problems, sluggish acceleration from 0-100 due to cvt, but accelerating from 100-140 is very fast, on highways I enjoy this car very much as I'm not afraid to overtake other vehicles as I know the car has the power to do so. If you like to drive at high speed I can say this car is very stable up to 160kmh, I guess it is because of the weight of the car which contributes to the stability of the car. I have drove honda city at 140km/h and its clear that preve is more stable. I am unsure of the mounting issue, but I guess most of the problems may arise due to the way the user drives the car itself. maybe they like to langgar bumper and drive aggressively. I guess if you drive properly you won't be seeing this issue. Although the preve does suck fuel like a tank in city jams, since its built like one, on highway just treat the fuel consumption like a 2l car. There are those little2 things like minor vibrations on door panels, cvt vibrations and NVH that may affect your driving experience. |
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Say NO to potong. I have a new saga & problem a lot. Good luck bro.
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QUOTE(caloyness @ Jan 24 2018, 12:17 PM) preve owner here, currently at 40km mileage. ayam 100k soon. first batch preve. never give be a single problem so far. and cheap maintenance every time. what a steal.so far no not much problem, got major service at 40km for 500RM (proton edar service) but i agree the power is lacking, still good enough for city driving. it's comfortable and that's what is important in a very jam city driving. reliable and never dies on me while driving on the road. Attached thumbnail(s) |
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I have a car with CFE engine..but not a preve
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Sluggish? LOL. Adjust the pedal response la. You want to fly also can
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inb4 Real man drive a MT
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tested preve at 210 km/h at malaysian autobahn. still stable. City and vios all eat my smoke.
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im waiting for geely to bring emgrand gs as b segment suv protong
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TS use ur brain and think ,, is it good or not ?? see on the road how many happy users on the road .. i can tell u almost none .. u can judge by urself is it really good or not . or u really like it then u mer try loh.. money is urs
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What is the summary? Preve second is good or not?
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Good for long distance.
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proton abit bodo
CVT go choose the stupid punch china knn mcb turbo unit is from bosch germany...so obviously bottleneck at the fucking cvt. hopefully bao teng dont make the same retard decision. ABS EBD TURBO all german tech from germany...just the cvt bodo |
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hye guys.. just wanna ask..is it ok to choose 2nd preve exec compare to 2013/2014 sagaflx se 1.6 or persona 2014?? which one has good value for money and less hassle?... thanks
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Is 2nd hand preve a good buy ?
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QUOTE(anakMY @ Jan 4 2019, 09:07 PM) ground rule to own a preve- OCH need to change every 40K mileage or buy some DIY parts (not that expensive, can find seller in FB group) - Fusebox, this one hit n miss issue.. - CVT, tendency to fail (those who taken care their car, can reduce the failure rate but it will happen, just dont know when) cost to repair the CVT gearbox if fail 2K-3K rebuild 4k-5K original unit from proton This post has been edited by myteam94: Jan 4 2019, 09:23 PM |
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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Jan 4 2019, 09:22 PM) ground rule to own a preve approximately how much does the OCH costs?- OCH need to change every 40K mileage or buy some DIY parts (not that expensive, can find seller in FB group) - Fusebox, this one hit n miss issue.. - CVT, tendency to fail (those who taken care their car, can reduce the failure rate but it will happen, just dont know when) cost to repair the CVT gearbox if fail 2K-3K rebuild 4k-5K original unit from proton fusebox cost RM50? wow not cheap to service the CVT gearbox. |
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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Jan 4 2019, 09:22 PM) ground rule to own a preve Does Iriz uses the same CVT?- OCH need to change every 40K mileage or buy some DIY parts (not that expensive, can find seller in FB group) - Fusebox, this one hit n miss issue.. - CVT, tendency to fail (those who taken care their car, can reduce the failure rate but it will happen, just dont know when) cost to repair the CVT gearbox if fail 2K-3K rebuild 4k-5K original unit from proton Fail, in what sense? Terus mati tabule hidup? |
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QUOTE(TAN WENG @ Jan 4 2019, 09:13 PM) 1.6 still ok 1.5 l honda brv n toyota rush lagi worse carry 7 people n luggage body weight like c segment somemore I drove my wife’s BRV for a year plus now.So far no problem ferrying 7 passengers and luggage. You expect to drive SUV/MPV crossover like a Felali with FC of 25km/l ke? Boy, you will be frustrated. I understand honda BRV’s capabilities and i hence drove accordingly. You want MPV/SUV that drive like Felali, get an Alpat/ Velfayah already. |
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QUOTE(anakMY @ Jan 4 2019, 10:11 PM) approximately how much does the OCH costs? Rm50-100 like that can’t rememberfusebox cost RM50? wow not cheap to service the CVT gearbox. If you buy DIY from local owner You will get similar price but improvise hose Service for CVT not that expensive Unless it broken, replacement quite costly Some owner either go with rebuild, manual transmission or transplant different gearbox |
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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Jan 4 2019, 10:29 PM) I drove my wife’s BRV for a year plus now. So wats yr brv fcSo far no problem ferrying 7 passengers and luggage. You expect to drive SUV/MPV crossover like a Felali with FC of 25km/l ke? Boy, you will be frustrated. I understand honda BRV’s capabilities and i hence drove accordingly. You want MPV/SUV that drive like Felali, get an Alpat/ Velfayah already. |
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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Jan 4 2019, 10:37 PM) Rm50-100 like that can’t remember OCH RM50-100 ok what, make it as annual maintenance , change it every year. If you buy DIY from local owner You will get similar price but improvise hose Service for CVT not that expensive Unless it broken, replacement quite costly Some owner either go with rebuild, manual transmission or transplant different gearbox But the gearbox seems not that tahan... But then, for this price, preve is the safest car... |
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QUOTE(anakMY @ Jan 4 2019, 10:36 PM) Mileage almost 100k,2013 carFusebox around 600 Och is like a time bomb, anytime will explode eventho u change every 40k km as per rekemended Other issue wire harness, oil sealent bocor twice last year, cvt showing simptoms to kong soon;jerking badly, stall etc Last year alone i spent thousands to repair Oh,i already changed engine mounting twice This post has been edited by daus89: Jan 4 2019, 10:50 PM |
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QUOTE(daus89 @ Jan 4 2019, 10:48 PM) Mileage almost 100k,2013 car Wire harness?Fusebox around 600 Och is like a time bomb, anytime will explode eventho u change every 40k km as per rekemended Other issue wire harness, oil sealent bocor twice last year, cvt showing simptoms to kong soon;jerking badly, stall etc Last year alone i spent thousands to repair Oh,i already changed engine mounting twice What happen? Engine mouting not that expensive plus mostly once a year or when it wear already |
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QUOTE(daus89 @ Jan 4 2019, 10:48 PM) Mileage almost 100k,2013 car holy shit... those parts seems cant tahan. Only 100k mileage. Now thinking isit worth all these hassles. Currently driving persona sv, so far so good, edi 170k mileage, still havent changed mounting.Fusebox around 600 Och is like a time bomb, anytime will explode eventho u change every 40k km as per rekemended Other issue wire harness, oil sealent bocor twice last year, cvt showing simptoms to kong soon;jerking badly, stall etc Last year alone i spent thousands to repair Oh,i already changed engine mounting twice |
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QUOTE(anakMY @ Jan 4 2019, 10:57 PM) holy shit... those parts seems cant tahan. Only 100k mileage. Now thinking isit worth all these hassles. Currently driving persona sv, so far so good, edi 170k mileage, still havent changed mounting. Mine 2014114K mileage Part change OCH 2nd time (first 60K, second 100k) Mounting last year Wire harness, replace after accident 🤣 Did the proton improvement for CVT unit (change to new clutch damper) Add-on to my car - wire harness for headlight (volt stabiliser) |
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Im using preve turbo cfe 7spd, year 2015, mileage 22k
Reading you guys punya post, im scared lol...so many things change |
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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Jan 4 2019, 11:03 PM) Mine 2014 What did proton improve on the cvt unit? Clutch damper? How much is d price?114K mileage Part change OCH 2nd time (first 60K, second 100k) Mounting last year Wire harness, replace after accident 🤣 Did the proton improvement for CVT unit (change to new clutch damper) Add-on to my car - wire harness for headlight (volt stabiliser) |
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Preve sounds French, so maintenance cost is like French car.
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There are two cases for OCH failure usually
1) OCH suddenly burst while driving. U will notice it immediately after listening to the engine sounds like lorry engine. LOL. Worst case can happen is the car will suddenly stop. Then prepare the money to change ur valve/head engine Main cause for OCH burst is due to oil sludge because not taking care of engine oil routine (servis tukaq minyak hitam). Im using semi synthetic Petronas Synthium and change the EO every 5000KM or 3 months. |
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get the turbo. if not, you will regret. have been using turbo with no major issues.
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QUOTE(JohnKekHow @ Jan 5 2019, 12:00 AM) I didnt change my cvt damper yet. I thought it is under warranty? Btw my preve is 2012 CFE. No warranty already i think you can called them up and ask about the CVT improvement programI did mine during my previous service not charges because it something like an initiative type of thing |
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QUOTE(JohnKekHow @ Jan 5 2019, 12:02 AM) Any update on OCH issue? Yala mentang mentang Preve dah stop production tak kan la depa nak sapu bawah karpet kot. Haram J betooi hahahalast I met the R&D guy, he said proton did some R&D for OCH and CVT gearbox issue but he didn't disclose anything la since I just randomly talk to him before friday prayer, he only mention about that CVT damper improvement program lagipun, yg issue OCH banyak je kan owner2/mechanic buat DIY hose. |
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how long will the preve shock absorbers last? any signs that it's time to change? estimate years or mileage to consider?
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Really hard to notice the signs and milleage usage. Need to check the absorber closely. You need to ask the foreman to check during balancing. U also must ask to check the brakepad
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recently fuel tank is 37L driving range: roughly about 420KM (or +-10km since I refuel a bit early due to jam) On-board computer calculate about 8.9L/100KM (11.3 Km/L) real world calculation 420/37 = 11.35Km/l (8.8L/100Km) |
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Jan 23 2018, 05:41 PM) Beware if car is over 60k (real mileage not temprered) So under "not normal", is only rm50?My car after 60k, need to spend for major services (normal) battery replacement (normal) tayar (normal) although my tayar no need to change at 60k because already change at 40k. Radiator fan relay around rm50 (not normal). Aircond fusebox (not normal luckily still under warranty). If turbo have to see oil cooler hose already replace or not. I think just prepare at least additional 5k |
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QUOTE(Coldf3ar @ Jan 4 2019, 10:41 PM) That doesnt look like CFE variant. CFE variant interior should be in gloss black and not the brown/bronze colour. |
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Jan 5 2019, 01:12 AM
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imo suprima > preve if you don't mind the boot space
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Jan 5 2019, 01:13 AM
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Jan 5 2019, 01:02 AM) What every year change engine mounting ?? Speculation only for my sideU kidding ?? Some cars can use 6-7years mounting just break one piece. Just did mine last year Still holding till date Vibration reduce quite a lot Depends on owner probably This post has been edited by myteam94: Jan 5 2019, 01:13 AM |
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Jan 5 2019, 09:51 AM
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The car is like never meant to be designed for a car this big.
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Jan 21 2019, 04:17 PM
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Jan 30 2019, 03:00 PM
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Jul 24 2020, 12:06 AM
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Selling my preve. 2014. Cfe. White. Rm21,000. Nego
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Oct 22 2020, 04:10 PM
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Oct 22 2020, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(myteam94 @ Jan 5 2019, 12:20 AM) Just to share my FC I didnt do calculation on FC, but I tried 500+km on 1 full tank, still last bar, no fuel light yetrecently fuel tank is 37L driving range: roughly about 420KM (or +-10km since I refuel a bit early due to jam) On-board computer calculate about 8.9L/100KM (11.3 Km/L) real world calculation 420/37 = 11.35Km/l (8.8L/100Km) bandar utama to perlis + perlis to kedah, forgot to refuel XD |
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Oct 22 2020, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(jVIPERs2 @ Jan 23 2018, 05:58 PM) Good car actually... what is fc?I was loaned a HQ lack love unit... Totally abused inside out with paint peeling off and interior bits broken...heck! Even the Proton logo disappeared due to the abuse (as in half was missing after a long period under the sun)... But if the drive was good and the most surprising part is, no rattling or 🐀 noise! FC was better than the Campro in a Gen2... |
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Oct 27 2020, 11:29 PM
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Oct 27 2020, 11:32 PM
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Oct 27 2020, 11:48 PM
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Family owned a manual preve. Car got serious vibration problem .. suspension chassis solid
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Oct 28 2020, 04:56 PM
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Oct 28 2020, 05:17 PM
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Oct 28 2020, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Jan 23 2018, 05:46 PM) Also what i noticed. May turbo owner complained sengguk senguk after started the engine. I noticed they started the car using the push start wrongly Can share what's the wrong way and the right way? Really want to learn.Edit: Just realized this is very very long ago.... but still want to learn la... This post has been edited by weissPC: Oct 28 2020, 05:23 PM |
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Oct 28 2020, 05:22 PM
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QUOTE(ahwai @ Oct 28 2020, 05:17 PM) iirc, it came from the engine. at idle the steering and dashboard like vibrator. also need to rev kuat then only the car can jalan. so engine mounting problem?because as i recall that IAFM engine is pretty solid unlike the CFE but yes...many have said it's quite underpower due to the heavier body but same engine as persona |
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Oct 28 2020, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Jan 23 2018, 05:41 PM) Beware if car is over 60k (real mileage not temprered) 60k what car no need change all this?My car after 60k, need to spend for major services (normal) battery replacement (normal) tayar (normal) although my tayar no need to change at 60k because already change at 40k. Radiator fan relay around rm50 (not normal). Aircond fusebox (not normal luckily still under warranty). If turbo have to see oil cooler hose already replace or not. I think just prepare at least additional 5k |
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Oct 28 2020, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Oct 28 2020, 05:22 PM) so engine mounting problem? Same engine Campro.. also maybe everyday jam rev until mounting longgarbecause as i recall that IAFM engine is pretty solid unlike the CFE but yes...many have said it's quite underpower due to the heavier body but same engine as persona last time i drive the saga flx also same rough engine noise but the vibration in preve is more serious prefer to drive the saga actually |
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Oct 28 2020, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(ahwai @ Oct 28 2020, 05:28 PM) Same engine Campro.. also maybe everyday jam rev until mounting longgar hmm...AFAIK the IAFM engine is pretty solidlast time i drive the saga flx also same rough engine noise but the vibration in preve is more serious prefer to drive the saga actually the old persona owner over 10 years...most are still keeping the car because still reliable prolly being abused i saw a manual preve now stil can fetch 21k to 25k quite out of budget for now This post has been edited by MR_alien: Oct 28 2020, 05:37 PM |
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