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post Mar 27 2018, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(I like to invest @ Mar 27 2018, 02:59 PM)
SS mean?
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Summer suitez
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post Mar 30 2018, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(Newbie_Investor @ Mar 30 2018, 07:11 PM)
Hi all Masters / Sifus,

Based on the sampling that I got it from Booking.com, the room rate for 1 room apartment (Superior Apartment), based on Check-In Date: 2 Apr and Check-Out Date: 3 Apr (weekday) is RM360. If I specify it the check-in date on 7 Apr and check-out date on 8 Apr (weekend), the room rate is RM440. Then, I also check out with Fraser Residence, KL, the room rate for a studio unit is RM345 per nite for both 7-8 Apr (weekend) and 2-3 Apr (weekday).

However, there are some of the KLCC properties are charging within RM150 to RM230 per nite. For example, for Vortex Suite, the room rate for a single room apartment suite is only RM159 per nite on 2-3 Apr (weekday) and RM181 per nite on 7-8 Apr (weekend). For Summer Suite, the room rate for studio apartment  is only RM192 per nite on 2-3 Apr (weekday) and RM232 per nite on 7-8 Apr (weekend).

Note: i have also found out these sample properties that I do comparison are high in demand based on "few units left" indicator displayed in Booking.com when I search these properties. I think it is still best to follow the industry standard occupancy rate within 65% to 70%.

Correct if I'm wrong, based on this observation, I assume that the the room rate pricing depends on how the hotel operator positions the property (product) in the market. At present, I'm still in the dilemma if I shall invest on Scarletz as I don't know if Scarletz is built to be similar or better than Platinum Suites and/or Fraser Place residence. I hope I can get advice from all masters / sifus and experienced investors.

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Why not just buy summer suites subsale?
Proven record...1000psf....immediate income?
The problem w scarlets is its really in the middle of nowhere in term of access for city living.
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post Mar 30 2018, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(Newbie_Investor @ Mar 30 2018, 08:49 PM)
Besides considering the rental market, I also need to consider about resale value if I decide  to exit later. Thus, I'm not sure if there is any good return in resale value if I invest sub-sale property. Some agents are telling me that the return of resale value is lower in relative to property purchased from developer. I'm not sure how truth it is from these agents. By the way, the launching price for Summer Suites was starting from RM328K (based on the info from PropSocial with the completion year of 2015) and the current published price (NOT TRANSACTED PRICE) from iProperty is about RM495K for a studio unit wiith the built-up size of 454 sq ft.

Appreciate for your advice too.

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Its all relative....
Ss 1000psf now....10 yrs later.....how much?
Sc 1300psf now....10yrs later (6yrs after vp)...how much?

Whereas you already started generate income from now.
Sc....you have to pay progressive interest for next 4 yrs....

Ss....1lrt line 1 monoral within comfortable walking distance.
Sx.....2lrt stations but walkable but not really within walking disrance.

Ss...proven hot bed for long term tenancy, short term airbnb
Sc....not proven either of the two

Ss...uem
Sc...exsim
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post Mar 31 2018, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(Kj57 @ Mar 31 2018, 09:03 PM)
isola also selling 1300 psf ?
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Isola i thought 1700psf
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post Apr 18 2018, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(anatomi @ Apr 18 2018, 09:38 AM)
The progressive interest is very painful. Developer take 80% money from bank at first 2 yrs.
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Obviosly some people still dunno the implication of hda and non hda non schedule office purchases.

And the above just for start. ...more surprises later.
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post Apr 18 2018, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(thunderaj @ Apr 18 2018, 04:58 PM)
Kindly could you share to us ?

Appreciate ..
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Depends on yr expectation and how developer delivers the product.
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post Apr 22 2018, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(I like to invest @ Apr 21 2018, 06:27 PM)
For the schedule of payment about the interest actually is quite much expensive compare with the HDA project
but it also depend how much of the loan amount there u loan for
other than that , for the Claiming actually is around 90% before 1and half year to reach VP but it also depend on how the progressive of the construction and this project claiming is claim upon completion
For some development of commercial it will be claim upfront of 40% upon the commence of the project.
other 50%-60% is claim upon complete of every stage
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Actually btw non schedule and schedule project, non schedule can claim paymenr when they started the progress of certain phase but schrdule project they can only claim when they completed the progress.

So for non schedule project, if you bought highest floor, the van claim the progress when they started the lowest floor, whereas schedule project they cant claim the progress until they completely biild the wall of yr unit.
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post Apr 22 2018, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(SongSongLai @ Apr 22 2018, 11:03 AM)
How about DLP? Any different compare HDA?
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Nom schedule contract is not standard unlike hda scheduled contract.

Each ti its own i guess
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post Apr 27 2018, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(previa @ Apr 27 2018, 06:22 PM)
76% unit sold....
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Booked....

Not sold.....unless all have signed spa.
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post Apr 30 2018, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(previa @ Apr 30 2018, 03:54 PM)
Type A, B, C (450sf) - Still available but top or higher floor units are fully booked
Starting price 750k

Type D, E (Dual Key 550sf & 575sf) - fully booked
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OMG......

550sq can do dual key? each size only 270sq per space???????????
i presumed dual key units come with seperate TNB, aircond console and mail box?

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post Apr 30 2018, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(aaron1717 @ Apr 30 2018, 04:37 PM)
3rd nvenue use 430 sq ft do dual key... ask u sei mei....  flex.gif  flex.gif only a pantry space seperate the two rooms... lolz
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I think I saw the layout of 3rdnevue. not both units got view out window rite?????

430sq dual key you cant even call them mirco-flat anymore.......

it should be rename atom-flat devil.gif

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post May 3 2018, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(jcts @ May 3 2018, 10:25 PM)
I was told now is 12% rebate. If you still can get 14% then your agent is good.

Yes Type A is fully booked, unless somebody loan didn’t go through.
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how long usually the developer allowed buyers to process the loan application?

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post May 15 2018, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(marzhooc @ May 15 2018, 08:28 PM)
VP is expected in Q1 2022. So it will be only interests throughout these years until completion without any return. Plus I think this is non HDA prop.
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No need to think.

It is a nom hda non carpark biuilding.
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post May 15 2018, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(marzhooc @ May 15 2018, 10:09 PM)
either to think or not, i still need to pay the interest for 4 years. question is what is the forecast of return after 4 years. sell right away after VP, or go with their AirBNB plan etc..

If sell right away after VP, might get 100k cash..
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Dun pray for chook b4 the egg hatches.
If u already bought, just file the papers away and review it in 2022.
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post May 16 2018, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(marzhooc @ May 16 2018, 04:21 PM)
it comes back to what I said - either to sell it straight away after VP or even during undercon.
Ultimately what we want is returned money for our investment
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U cant actually sell an undercon project and pocket the money.

If u r so worried heaven and earth why buy in the 1st place?

If u intend to flip under tis dna then make sure yr investment is one of the kind unique and not accessible to public.

Tis scarletz is everything BUT.

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post May 16 2018, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(marzhooc @ May 16 2018, 07:53 PM)
it is just for the sake of replying. I randomly plugged the number without any basis. lol.
It can be 5k, 10k, 50k... honestly I dont know. maybe losing money. lol. I dont know...
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Under normal circumstances (no bull run no recession) u might get abt 20% gross.
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post May 24 2018, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(pinkdm @ May 24 2018, 11:06 AM)
Hi, i agree with this, when a IBis hotel is around (or near A property), definitely any airbnb will be affected !
as I personally have stay on " IBis hotel " few times while in UK, i like this hotel "modern", sleek , clean & lots of modern features & the price is reasonable too !  hmm.gif
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IBIS hotel has few categories. from budget to mid range.

and hotel will always be more expensive than Airbnb. dun kid yrself that hotel will be cheaper than Airbnb.
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post Aug 10 2018, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(mmzoo @ Aug 10 2018, 06:21 PM)
About the no car park i think shouldnt be a problem ? i have a friend managing 30+ airbnb units in KLCC area. More then 90 percent of the tenants from other countries they dont need a carpark actually wink.gif
+ nowadays i dont think tourists will do car rental since grabcar is quite cheap and mrt lrt quite convenient as well ?Just my 2 cen biggrin.gif
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Yes np problem but u need to forever rent to ppl without cars or tourists for shorr term stay

What is yr end game?
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post Aug 12 2018, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(GreenHulk555 @ Aug 12 2018, 12:54 AM)
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Their rooftop infinity pool at Expressionz sibeh yes wor... can use it as benchmark to judge their Scarletz ar?
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this is NOT an infinity pool. just a wet edge pool.

infinity pool mean the water in the pool merge with another body of water (such as ocean or lake) and seemingly expanding the horizon of the pool size to infinity.

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post Aug 30 2018, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(mmzoo @ Aug 29 2018, 05:18 PM)
Ermm..what i heard is they will come with season carpark..this might be a cost you need to consider?But  some projects along yap kwan seng already selling above rm1800k -Rm2400 psf.So i think this project is still quite potential.
Alilah bangsar is a good example ,units come without parking .
People buy just for investment and they are doing good now.
Hmm..
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200 cps for 700 units? Good luck to secure one.

Which project in yks subsale 1800 up?

Alilia also got lelong units.

Alilia fortune might be shortlived once sentral suites are ready

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