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 xunlei good for bt, tm streamyx cant block the user

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post May 21 2007, 12:06 PM

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for me, its been throttled also since this client shown to public.
this client no hash check ?


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post May 21 2007, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(arturo_bandini @ May 20 2007, 11:20 PM)
i think maybe we are misunderstanding something here...

xunlei aims to offer better speed by faking its headers, to make they seem to come from "innocent" software such as internet explorer, etc. by doing this, tmnet's throttle mechanism let those packets pass without any slowdown in speed.

now that i think about it... only torrent packets SENT BY A XUNLEI CLIENT will pass tmnet's throttle mechanism. if u use xunlei to download a torrent, but all the seeders of that torrent use utorrent or anything else, then their packets (sent to you) will still be slowed down by tmnet. on the other hand, the packets that you send to other leechers will be faked as an internet explorer packet (etc) and will not be slowed down.

the bottom point is: using xunlei (only) increases our upload speed, since packets we send out will be faked as something else to fool tmnet's throttle mechanism. to get good download speed, we should encourage more and more people to use xunlei.

i'm not a torrent protocol expert, so if i'm wrong, somebody please correct me...


Added on May 20, 2007, 11:24 pmif my theory is correct, this is why those who download stuff from chinese trackers get high speeds - perhaps a lot of those chinese seeders use xunlei...

on the other hand, if u use xunlei to download a local malaysian torrent, unless ur lucky that many of the seeders use xunlei, u'll only get very low speeds. many malaysian seeders use utorrent, etc., and the packets they send to u will still be throttled by tmnet...
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I stated this theory earlier hmm.gif

Because i noticed when download an international torrent the speed i got 170 kbps maxed.

But when i tried to download from our local Malaysian torrent MYT it was slow. ( this wasn't the case UNTIL they started throttling local torrents as well....)

That is how i came to the conclusion why the different results ? Maybe cause the seeder ( uploader ) overseas is not throttled so when we download from them with Xunlei is fast doh.gif

Anyone can confirm this flex.gif
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post May 21 2007, 05:51 PM

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this one i also dunno...i queue all the joband leave it till morning...
my xunlei rank i think very high...rank 10...
i start use xunlei since last 2 year...that time no bt support...just normal p2p to dl taiwan movie and anime

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post May 21 2007, 07:34 PM

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WTB english translation
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post May 22 2007, 04:08 AM

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QUOTE(xpresside @ May 21 2007, 08:34 PM)
WTB english translation
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lkfight
post May 22 2007, 05:08 PM

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hehe...i think most of u have to learn chinese....
SHE...中国话!
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post May 22 2007, 09:02 PM

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ohh yeahhh baby! im downloading heroes ep.23 from a chinese tracker right now @ 46.9kb/s !! wooo!

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post May 23 2007, 02:55 PM

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Yesterday night downloaded a PSP3 game movie trailer from xunlei.com website. Guess what? Mine is on 1mb package, and I can reach max of 102kb/s (average ~85kb/s) just to download this movie trailer of 71 mbytes in file size.

Just to share with you guys. I guess to reach the maximum download speed, you will need to get the torrent file from xunlei.com website. Once you add this torrent into the xunlei torrent client (thunder), it will downloading using its own protocol and whereby our TMNET can't throttled it, hence reach the max download speed.

If you are download a torrent from, say, Mininova.org, whereby a lot of people are using uTorrent, BitTorrent and etc, then you won't reach the max speed as you can upload full speed to them but they can't upload full speed to you, because whatever they are upload to you, their speed just going to be throttled by TMNET (caused TMNET can throttled traffic from uTorrent, BitTorrent and etc but not Xunlei)

In short, if you are connected to a torrent whereby a lot of people using xunlei torrent client to download, then you will be in fast speed, else, back to the snail speed. wink.gif

Correct me if I were wrong.

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post May 23 2007, 05:53 PM

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since the nutty tmnut throttle utorrent, bitcomet and etc......let's use xunlei together.......

(i'm forced to use xunlei since all other bt client d/l speed < 10Kb/s)




QUOTE(ckshieh @ May 23 2007, 02:55 PM)
Yesterday night downloaded a PSP3 game movie trailer from xunlei.com website. Guess what? Mine is on 1mb package, and I can reach max of 102kb/s (average ~85kb/s) just to download this movie trailer of 71 mbytes in file size.

Just to share with you guys. I guess to reach the maximum download speed, you will need to get the torrent file from xunlei.com website. Once you add this torrent into the xunlei torrent client (thunder), it will downloading using its own protocol and whereby our TMNET can't throttled it, hence reach the max download speed.

If you are download a torrent from, say, Mininova.org, whereby a lot of people are using uTorrent, BitTorrent and etc, then you won't reach the max speed as you can upload full speed to them but they can't upload full speed to you, because whatever they are upload to you, their speed just going to be throttled by TMNET (caused TMNET can throttled traffic from uTorrent, BitTorrent and etc but not Xunlei)

In short, if you are connected to a torrent whereby a lot of people using xunlei torrent client to download, then you will be in fast speed, else, back to the snail speed. wink.gif

Correct me if I were wrong.
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post May 23 2007, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(CuteSniper22 @ May 19 2007, 10:02 AM)
3. About extension file, i give a example. E.g U got a incomplete file download from bitcomet, so it's name is ABC.avi.bc!. So u wan to transfer to Xunlei continue the download. So u change the extension from ABC.avi.bc! to ABC.avi.td. Make sure ur file directory are correct.

Depends on the BT application, bitcomet is .bc!, xunlei is .td
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i still dont get it..i've tried renaming the file but it's useless..it'll start from zero..if i got an .avi file (b4 dis i used tuotu instead of bitcomet as in ur example), should i rename the file to .avi.td OR to .avi.bt.td? coz i've noticed dat when i use thunder, the extension of the avi downloaded is .avi.bt.td

so,how is it EXACTLY to continue downloading an incomplete file? help me plz... sad.gif

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post May 23 2007, 07:25 PM

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i just started to use xunlei......the speed is quite good...better than other torrent client....
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post May 23 2007, 07:31 PM

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Hmm, then same as Bitspirit scenario, to make sure fast torrent share and downloads, we need more users to use either Xunlei and Bitspirit, cause both client have a special mechanism to connect to each other and avoid detection hence throttle.

Bottomline, everyone use

1. Bitspirit or Bitcomet and make sure u guys use forced NAT-Traversal all time, or
2. Xunlei

so pick either one of the above, the more the merrier!
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post May 23 2007, 08:12 PM

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somehow i notice that all files downloaded with xunlei will have a ratio of 1.
dunnoe if the program cheats or not

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post May 23 2007, 08:24 PM

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how to minimize xunlei to tray icon only? i don't want it show in taskbar.
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post May 23 2007, 08:41 PM

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i used Xunlei yesterday and downloaded heroes episode 23 and got 170 kbps ! The torrent was from demonoid so this was an international source.

What is bitspirit/bit comet nat traversal ? Is that the encryption like in azureus and utorrent ? I heard tmnut has torrent shapping hardware that can even find torrent traffic through encryptions..... that is why even when turn on encryption it is still throttled...
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post May 23 2007, 09:13 PM

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Quote from Bitcomet's websites:

What is Firewall and NAT Traversal in BitComet?
In the world of old bittorrent clients, non-firewalled clients and clients on publicly routable IP addresses are able to help NAT'ed nodes to communicate while downloading the same files. BitComet did a even better job for users behind NAT, it enables users behind differect NAT connected to each other via UDP. That means the download rate may boost up because it can now connect to more peers than before. Without any cofiguration, BitComet will auto dectect your internet connection ( to find out if you are behind the NAT or haven't any successful port-mapping ) and did all those automatically. But you may also enable or disable this feature in the Options - Advanced dialog.

In the past i can get pass the throttle using this method but since only Chinese tracker got lots of Bitcomet and Bitspirit user its kinda pointless cause my files mostly at other places.

Someone actually requested Utorrent dev to create the Nat Traversal but since Bitcomet is close source there is no documented way on how to create this so they abandoned the idea.
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post May 23 2007, 09:40 PM

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when using xunlei to download, internet surfing speed is almost dowwn to zero, no need surf alrdy

anyone else facing this?

This post has been edited by dattebayo: May 23 2007, 09:41 PM
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post May 23 2007, 09:54 PM

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wah downloading the program now
@dattebayo
cannot limit the download speed?
lets say limit to 30kb/s on 512kb package
still cannot surf?
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post May 23 2007, 09:59 PM

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xunlei rocks!!
i just installed xunlei, guess wat, im downloading heroes ep23
36 minutes passed, 48%!!
unbelievable
my package 1Mbps, the speed is 80-120KB/s
but i know good things wont last long, better dance like monkey now when still have chance, sooner tmnut will do something. screw....
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post May 23 2007, 10:01 PM

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which xunlei u guys using?
xunlei5?
and do u need to open chinese program like njwin to see chinese words in xunlei?

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