Decided to purchase used DS5 as a 2nd car. Price wise quite reasonable 80-90K for 2013-2014 model. Any feeback from owners in terms of reliability and the total cost ownership. Tq 🙏😀

reliability.... lol no one ever talks about reliability when it comes to citroen

cost of ownership, depending how much ur willing to fork out


it's a nice car tho that's for sure

And that assessment is based on what, experiences collected with cars 40 years ago? If a car is reliable or not can vary from model to model within the same brand, and even from year to year (despite there not being a facelift or anything else that would indicate changes). So basing such statements on experiences with very old cars, that completely stumped Malaysian mechanics because they were nothing like what these mechanics knew.. I find that a bit daring.

Look at statistics from countries where these cars are more common, in order to get an idea. Also, are crucial parts common enough in Malaysia? i.e. if it uses the same engine as many other cars in the country, you should be able to find specialists for that engine. etc.

let me start..hurmm the car use prince thp engine and gearbox same as peugeot 308 & 508. my family used to own both..after 4 years trade in (more like dump) the car with a great loss. for a 4 years old car..too much problem. aircond..turbo failure..engine oi leaking..

regarding specialist..yep no problem to find it. In fact better than what naza sc can offer (spare parts also lot cheaper outside).

In addition, it's still a good car with a good engine when it's healthy.

This post has been edited by theanswer: Jan 16 2018, 08:46 AM

Hydraulic suspension system leaking especially the balloon & spider web system can be a messy and expensive business.

Nevertheless it's a very comfortable car to drive minus the countless visit to workshop..well ex cotroen owner here

French cars are unreliable, problematic, expensive and troublesome to maintain. There is no need to argue about this.

Furthermore don't compare with Europe where spare parts are cheaper, mechanics have the required skills and the driving environment is kinder to cars from that region. Totally different scenario.

You will cry after you buy this stupid car

This car no hydraulic suspension, the last model to have hydraulic suspension was the discontinued C5.

Ooo..too long disposed my shit tou lon long tine ago..haha..confused wth c5. I luv the c5 hydraulic suspension..flying carpet feeling..but very messy to maintain once spider/baloon leaking haha

Actually its not the car that’s stupid, its the owner who’s stupid enough to buy a French car 😂😂

It's only reasonable when it's RM50k. Still, this car is as rare as a diamond. Not that it's a gem, but I cannot seem to spot this car on our roads here for more than 3 years already.

The maintenance.. you only can go back sc.. as outside foreman.. they dont know how to service this car..

how to open bonnet car also dont know..

I agree that it's very rare, rarer than S class and 7 series. My former manager drove one, very outstanding in the sea of cars. I can't help take a few more look when approaching the car park before i drive back home.

Actually most french car owner will avoid sc after their warranty ends. but they go to conti specialist la. not normal mech.

the interior is very2 nice.

Would like to give a few pointers. Hope these helps so you can enjoy your ownership. I'm an owner of multiple big Citroens. Currently still driving one on daily basis.

SUMMARY : In short, I would say treat a Citroen like a French girl. They have attitudes and their own requirements. They are proper continental cars, cheap to buy expensive to maintain. They're not for everyone. But if you love designs and novelty, and you can feed them properly, they will return your love, in a big way. If this is your first continental car, I would advise against buying a Citroen. Also, if you care about Resell Value, stop reading now. Citroen isn't for you.

1. Prepare to deal with spare parts down time. Do not believe in stockist or Naza warehouse. Major spare parts are mostly directly brought in from France upon placing orders. Place orders earlier when there are symptoms (usually technician will inform during service intervals), do not drag until last minute. Expect 1~3 months down time for major issue. Personally I had experienced 6 months down time after accident. DS5 is introduced worldwide back in 2011, expect even lesser support starting from 2021.

2. My current daily run on a THP engine, with full Naza service record. You can send to outside foreman but do at your own risk. First issue is extremely hard to find a someone that specialised in new Citroens. Especially newer and bigger Citroens are designed to be quirky and odd inside and outside. Secondly, you're losing your warranties. There are a standard 5 years warranty and extra 2 years warranty. The latter only covers your engine and drivetrain, but Naza / Brooklands service record is one of the requirement.

3. Why is the extra 2 years warranty important? Because to replace the turbo + peripherals alone will cost you RM12k. Rocker arm cover and engine mountings around RM3k+. Be realistic. THP stand for Turbo High Pressure, and it's the pioneer of downsizing + turbo decade ago. You're bound to face this, it's normal. Peugeots and Minis with EP6 Prince engines suffer the same too. Don't compare to a Japanese or naturally aspirated car.

4. The worst of luck is climate control system failure. The cost is from RM2k(cooling coil) to RM15k (evaporator housings and their reduction gears) worst case. I personally do not see this as big issue also because I had same experiences with Mercedes, BMW and Volvo (Yes, don't believe that German cars are bullet proof). One thing I learn though, is never let the climate control work in 'auto' mode. Manually set your temperature and fan speed for all 4 zones. That could prolong the life span.

5. Normal service cost is on par with, if not slightly cheaper than Germans. Key costs include 5.5L of Mobil 1 @ RM70+ per L, brake pads @ RM400+ per pairs, brake disc @ RM500+ per pairs, Naza pricing. I drive my daily fast and hard like a hooligan (yes, I'm not joking), service costs are around RM700+, RM2k+, RM700+, RM2k+...10k km or 3 months interval. Expect lesser for your part if you're a tame driver. I would advise against using Petronas Syntium, the engine feels reluctant to work under Malaysian hot afternoon sun.

6. Maintain your car on strict basis, or even more frequent than what is recommended. THP beefiness and French car hard braking is sweet only when it runs on optimal conditions. You'll hate driving your car if it's not properly maintained. In the event of accident, minor or major, tow back to Sungai Besi Citroen service centre. They do body and painting, and they claimed from insurance.

7. For fuel, RON97 is recommended. RON95 can be used but the engine run very coarse. The difference is very obvious.

(P/S : Sorry for the length. As an owner, I feel sick reading or hearing non owners bashing the marque based on hearsay. Citroens deserve justice.)

This post has been edited by Portalese: Jan 18 2018, 05:08 PM

As you said, treat your Citroen like a French girl. But this is like falling in love with a costly, troublesome and high maintenance junkie, ya?

Costly? Depends on your financial. Troublesome? Not at all if you can appreciate design and novelty of French cars. High Maintenance? It's roughly the same compare with other newer continentals. The key issue is spare parts availability. And the reason behind key issue is there are too little Citroens on Malaysian road. Junkie? Not at all! If not, how would I keep buying Citroen? It's our third Citroen. And my current ones is even rarer than DS5 or new C4GP.

This post has been edited by Portalese: Jan 18 2018, 06:29 PM

Your pointers should be pinned for peugeot/citroen owners/wannabes reference

But the engine oil pricing is ridiculous. RM70/L for mobil1 is a little too much....but that's where the SC need to earn some cash....

Long term wise, I would say it's cheaper to have full Naza / Brooklands service record. The cost above is what I personally experienced.

Let's be realistic. How many of us can close eyes and pay RM12k without frawning?

Also, Citroens actually sell very cheap in Malaysia considering what they offer. It's a trap to new buyers too thinking the maintenance is cheap. Smaller Citroens are mechanically simpler and cheaper to maintain like their Peugeot cousins. Big Citroens (Evasion, C4GP, DS5, C6, C8, DS7) are just another story. Don't compare them to Peugeots.

This post has been edited by Portalese: Jan 18 2018, 06:31 PM