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SUSwankongyew
post Jan 5 2018, 10:50 AM, updated 8y ago

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Like most people here on this forum, I oppose BN rule if only because it is a good principle to switch out ruling parties every once in a while. However I already know who the candidate for my area will be for GE14. The area is currently under DAP and MCA will be contesting it. This candidate has personally helped me a lot over the past year, in particular in dealing with a particular branch of government. I didn't ask for the help and the person freely offered the assistance to me and some others in the same situation as myself because he said that we were the victims of an injustice. His assistance has really made a big difference. Through him, I have also gained a few new contacts in MCA and, holy shit, do they have a lot of bad things to say about DAP.

Anyway he will never know whether or not I actually vote for him and I doubt my vote will make a difference anyway. So it's really a personal ethical dilemma. I would feel bad if I smiled at him, shook his hand and accepted his help but then voted for DAP anyway. What would you do in my place? Am I a macai now if I vote MCA?
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post Jan 5 2018, 10:53 AM

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You mean vote for BN? yes. go ahead. let Malaysians suffer for the next 5 years.
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post Jan 5 2018, 11:18 AM

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i think looking at the bigger picture is more important
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post Jan 5 2018, 11:29 AM

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MCA has taken Malaysian for a ride for took long!!!!
Chinese zodiac now missing dog and pig also no noise from them?!?!
So it is pay back time!
Please continue to shake his hand, accepted his help and money but then voted for DAP anyway!
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post Jan 5 2018, 11:52 AM

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If you already feel that your vote would not make much of a difference in the final outcome then I don't see anything wrong in voting for him.

Especially if you feel like you have a moral code to uphold and need to repay him back somehow.
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post Jan 5 2018, 12:37 PM

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That's why it's not wrong to believe that people that still voting for MCA are those who have personal gains that benefits personally only.

This post has been edited by MiLKTea: Jan 5 2018, 12:37 PM
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post Jan 5 2018, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(najminaruto @ Jan 5 2018, 10:53 AM)
You mean vote for BN? yes. go ahead. let Malaysians suffer for the next 5 years.
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QUOTE(KcX35 @ Jan 5 2018, 11:18 AM)
i think looking at the bigger picture is more important
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jan 5 2018, 11:29 AM)
MCA has taken Malaysian for a ride for took long!!!!
Chinese zodiac now missing dog and pig also no noise from them?!?!
So it is pay back time!
Please continue to shake his hand, accepted his help and money but then voted for DAP anyway!
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MCA's argument, conveyed to me directly, is that there is zero chance of BN actually losing control of the Federal Government in GE14. If UMNO is threatened, they will just ally with PAS and PAS certainly will be more willing to have a BN government than a PH government. Since PH can't win power, then it is better to vote MCA to have influence in government.

So tell me, do you think that PH can win control of the Federal Government is a three-way fight with BN and PAS?
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post Jan 5 2018, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Jan 5 2018, 01:23 PM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
it is better to vote MCA to have influence in government.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
laugh me die! What influence?! Only knows when to bark when the master demands!

SUSwankongyew
post Jan 5 2018, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(MiLKTea @ Jan 5 2018, 12:37 PM)
That's why it's not wrong to believe that people that still voting for MCA are those who have personal gains that benefits personally only.
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I think it's an interesting question anyway. Do you vote for a candidate just because of the party without knowing anything about that person in particular? When voting, do you prioritize the national stage or whether or not a candidate can help you in your local area?
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post Jan 5 2018, 02:54 PM

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Vote for MCA. Time for DAP is up. They have shown for the past 8 years that they do not have any prinsips and is willing to do whatever it takes to get power. Just look at how they run Penang lol. I regret until this day voting for a DAP clown as an MP.
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post Jan 5 2018, 03:03 PM

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vote BN and MCA for peace and stable country
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post Jan 5 2018, 03:05 PM

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bn win n bn win 2/3 that is a big different ....
if they win, maybe like last GE but lose popularity vote ... then bn very "prihatin" one..
if they win 2/3, oppo no power to oppose ...bn say gst naik 20% u also must pay ... cry.gif cry.gif
why u wanna let u be in this situation ??? ...kasi bn tarik your hidung and walk ??
btw who is the gomen is still is umno member or ex umno member .... why need to jilat ?? except u wanna become anjing like MCA ...
MCA got help u but remember .... u got pay GST and tax to gomen ....
politician is to help the people, no matter u vote them or not ..... bruce.gif bruce.gif bruce.gif dont "spoil" them
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post Jan 5 2018, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(will4848 @ Jan 5 2018, 03:05 PM)

politician is to help the people, no matter u vote them or not .....  bruce.gif  bruce.gif  bruce.gif dont "spoil" them
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I don't think this is true. The person in question currently holds internal MCA posts but is not a government servant and does not hold any government posts. I don't think he gets any money from MCA currently. His entire motivation is to raise his public profile so that he can be a successful candidate for MP.
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post Jan 5 2018, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Jan 5 2018, 03:21 PM)
I don't think this is true. The person in question currently holds internal MCA posts but is not a government servant and does not hold any government posts. I don't think he gets any money from MCA currently. His entire motivation is to raise his public profile so that he can be a successful candidate for MP.
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any MCA member get paid... where the money come from ?? ...drop from sky ah ??
wisma mca in jalan ampang, whose money ?? mca control thestar, where money come from ??
and all those cawangan cawangan in different state n kampung kampung area .... who pay ??
if no money, why wanna becum a candidate ??
politic in malaysia is all about money ........not rakyat ....
but sometimes bn n oppo fight we got some gula gula brows.gif brows.gif
if either one party win 2/3, kasi u tahi u also must eat ... whistling.gif whistling.gif
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post Jan 5 2018, 03:33 PM

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yes vote for mca
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post Jan 5 2018, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Jan 5 2018, 03:21 PM)
I don't think this is true. The person in question currently holds internal MCA posts but is not a government servant and does not hold any government posts. I don't think he gets any money from MCA currently. His entire motivation is to raise his public profile so that he can be a successful candidate for MP.
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Yet TS don't dare to name him whistling.gif whistling.gif
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post Jan 5 2018, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(najminaruto @ Jan 5 2018, 10:53 AM)
You mean vote for BN? yes. go ahead. let Malaysians suffer for the next 5 years.
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u mean suffer forever ....dr m can only help this time ...i do wish him a long life but the fact is hes really old oredi ...dun have many 5 yrs to help oppo ..
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post Jan 5 2018, 03:37 PM

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This is my personal view

For state seats, especially for Selangor and Penang, I would urge all of you, especially those who believe in democracy to vote for BN

PH in Selangor and Penang or beginning to act like the previous party that they criticised. They are beginning to act arrogant and like they are better than the peasants that voted for them and taking the anti government sentiments for granted.

Let BN take back Selangor and Penang and you will see both BN and PH working hard to retain or win back in GE 15.

For the Federal sears, undi is sulit... So vote who you believe in.

This post has been edited by cfa28: Jan 5 2018, 03:37 PM
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post Jan 5 2018, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(cfa28 @ Jan 5 2018, 03:37 PM)
This is my personal view

For state seats, especially for Selangor and Penang, I would urge all of you, especially those who believe in democracy to vote for BN

PH in Selangor and Penang or beginning to act like the previous party that they criticised. They are beginning to act arrogant and like they are better than the peasants that voted for them and taking the anti government sentiments for granted.

Let BN take back Selangor and Penang and you will see both BN and PH working hard to retain or win back in GE 15.

For the Federal sears, undi is sulit... So vote who you believe in.
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if like that , bn win 2/3 then how ?? brows.gif brows.gif

create another mahatir bruce.gif bruce.gif
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post Jan 5 2018, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(will4848 @ Jan 5 2018, 03:40 PM)
if like that , bn win 2/3 then how ??  brows.gif  brows.gif

create another mahatir  bruce.gif  bruce.gif
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State is okay... Not Parliament

I really hope LGE lose his State Seat

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