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post Jan 3 2018, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(lowlowc @ Jan 3 2018, 05:04 PM)
I am also in the process of repainting my house. I think the prepping jobs and washing the tools are actually more tedious and takes longer than painting itself.

Do you paint the ceilings? Any tips to paint the ceiling better?
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It is water based paint. You don't need to wash it everyday you use it. Since you are going to use it daily, just wrap the roller in plastic bag to prevent it from drying. Tie with rubber band of anything. This way is less tedious smile.gif
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post Jan 3 2018, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(lowlowc @ Jan 3 2018, 05:04 PM)
I am also in the process of repainting my house. I think the prepping jobs and washing the tools are actually more tedious and takes longer than painting itself.

Do you paint the ceilings? Any tips to paint the ceiling better?
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What about the ceiling? Just use multi-fold ladder and make a platform. If not high enough, then no choice but move ladder bit by bit laugh.gif Otherwise use roller at the end of pole. It is tiring.

The fastest one is to use spray paint gun wink.gif
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post Jan 3 2018, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(lowlowc @ Jan 3 2018, 05:27 PM)
Thanks for the tips about plastic bag. I did put the roller in an empty bucket, then cover the bucket with a damp cloth. The roller is still damp when I use it the next day, but somehow it didn't roll as good as previous day. I will try your plastic bag idea this weekend again. Still left living room and my master room to paint.

exkay, I employed, or rather, my contractor got me a so-called professional painter 5 years ago to paint my new house. The result was bad, but painter was already long gone before we can catch him. My contractor was only like, "ok la.. the painting ok lah, no need to call him back." There's still more than 50% of paint we bought for him, hidden in my store room. The guy didn't even use the primer we bought for him! He got plenty of paints on our floor that I have to scrap them up one by one.

Somemore, now I have furnishings in the house, no way I will let a painter paint. Painting the house myself is tedious, but satisfying when I look at the result. Plus, at a time like this when CNY is approaching, all the good painter will be taking big jobs already, and left the mediocre painters available.
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Yes, I did my painting too but not all interior. Just did during weekend for many weeks laugh.gif

The house was already painted when you bought it right? There's no need to put primer on painted wall. Just straight paint with color of your choice. Obviously need to layer of paint or it will look patchy.
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post Jan 3 2018, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(lowlowc @ Jan 3 2018, 05:34 PM)
Haha, I am moving the ladder bit by bit and a bit difficult the apply the same pressure to the whole roller when craning my neck. Yes, I think I will buy a multifold ladder this weekend. Luckily, plenty of paint shops in my area.
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Yes. At first bit by bit. Then stretch a bit. That's why pressure is uneven.

If multi fold is not high enough, then need two ladders and put a plank. However, be careful. Don't get lazy and try to reach out. Stay safe thumbsup.gif
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post Jan 4 2018, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Jan 4 2018, 09:25 AM)
Mr.Paint Shop is the full name or Mr.Paint Man?
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Two different shops

http://mrpaintman.com.my

http://mrpaintshop.com.my

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post Jan 11 2018, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(lowlowc @ Jan 4 2018, 11:01 AM)
My ceiling is around 2.8 - 2.9m height, depending on which area. I bought extendable pole at Mr DIY RM10.90 and it's enough. Problem is, if we paint the ceiling by standing on the floor and using the pole, it's hard to apply balance pressure throughout the painting. So, after painting, I can see the unbalance patch. This time, I want to repaint the ceiling by standing on a platform, so I can shorten the pole. Easier to apply balance pressure. But maybe it's just me, have weak arms.  blush.gif  Pick a good roller.

Mine is landed, so I can't repaint the stair case area where the ceiling is too high and dangerous. Luckily the old color at this area is good, so no need to repaint.
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Working with long pole is tiring and strain your arm. Remember that we are not doing this as professional and not used to it laugh.gif
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post Jan 16 2018, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Jan 15 2018, 09:41 PM)
bro just checking where you got the paints?

i just surveyed around seems some shops carry 5-7L paint how you find 20L?

Perfect White is around rm100 for 5L, yours 20 liters rm260 is very cheap.

maxilite 7L rm35

Easy Wash 5L rm100

Momento 1L rm120

i'm not sure which paint to use for matte white on plaster ceiling...
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I think plaster ceiling use the same paint as your brick/cement wall.
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post Jan 16 2018, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Jan 16 2018, 08:47 AM)
plaster ceiling is white. the walls are yellowish white. or you saying plaster ceiling should match color of wall? if like that the cost of paint will be very expensive as matte white is alot cheaper than wall paints. don't think they have matte yellowish white right?
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I did not mean the same color but the paint type for the ceiling is the same as the interior cement wall paint. Just buy the pure white like this

https://www.lazada.com.my/dulux-18l-maxilit...0180116010213:s
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post Jan 16 2018, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Jan 16 2018, 09:08 AM)
i know, that is super budget. but how's the durability? will the paint come off after sometime like what we see in shopping malls especially the toilet?

also can you mix maxilite with more expensive paint? like 1 use for 1st coat another for 2nd coat? if yes better paint goes 1st or 2nd?
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Why need to mix? Just go ahead use the better paint. The interior wall paint acrylic based also has matte finishing. The acrylic will prevent moist to the ceiling as this paint is washable type for wall
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post Jan 16 2018, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Jan 16 2018, 10:15 AM)
you paint yourself? ceiling you just use extended pole with roller?

toilet plaster also use nippon matex?

how much you bought and how many liter per bucket for both wall & ceiling paint?
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http://www.nipponpaint.com.sg/resources/paint-calculator/
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post Jan 16 2018, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Jan 16 2018, 10:23 AM)
existing plaster already painted. probably those cheap maxilite. so i ask can we mix paint by painting over cheap paint with better paint? will the paint still chip as the base paint is maxilite. if yes then no point using better paint.

also i was asking about how much he bought and how many liter per container. i notice if you buy 5L it's more expensive than 18L but not all shops carry the big containers.

looking for good place to buy. i only know people say Mr.Paint.
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I would presume the cheap paint adheres just fine on the ceiling. So, if I coat with good paint on top of it, it will protect moisture from to seep through to the ceiling, thus should be okay and will last ling. If you leave cheap paint to expose over time it cannot last long but painting over it will make it last... unless you paint over the bad conditioned paint. I would say painting over the newly paint surface would be okay.

Starting this year 2018, official 18L ICI paint for 18L one increased by about RM30, I was told last week but I did not ask how much the 18L cost sad.gif The 5L paint is around RM150. This is from small shop.

The Jotun paint is more expensive that ICI and Nippon, which are similarly priced. this was what I was told at authorized Mr. Paint distributor. They told me the 5L paint for ICI and Nippon is RM115.

Forgot to mention that these are interior acrylic based paint price.

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post Jan 16 2018, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(SheepGeeks @ Jan 16 2018, 11:24 AM)
Yeah, achievement is the best thing.. Cost wise, yes, you'll save but still rely on how you plan it because you might end up spending too much on product wastage or machinery investment to earn the knowledge and experiences.
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I would say the machinery cost is probably less than labor cost laugh.gif
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post Jan 16 2018, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(SheepGeeks @ Jan 16 2018, 12:44 PM)
Yes if you buy what you need only. Else, you'll end up buying it for 'interest' purpose.  tongue.gif

So far, I bought 1 impact drill for screwing, drilling & small chisel only..
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I bought many tools which I think I will be useful from time to time. I have jigsaw, hammer drill (normal), rotary hammer drill (SDS), angle grinder, and oscillating tool. I think they still cover the cost if I have to hire people to do all those jobs around the house over times.

I probably need circular saw or maybe get holder for my grinder to use as circular saw. Hard to cut long plank straight with jigsaw. Angle cutting also not easy sad.gif
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post Jan 25 2018, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(SheepGeeks @ Jan 24 2018, 11:49 PM)
White paint > Primer Paint/Base colour paint > Top coat

Or

Primer/Base colour paint > Top coat
If you have no confident to cover the existing wall colour with Primer Paint or Base colour paint then go for white paint first.
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White paint? Primer is generally white in color already. However, it can be tinted to match the final color so that the finishing will have no problem to be evenly toned.

Most important is the type of primer for different purpose. Wet or damp surface need to use primer for damp surface. Sometime people use something like plaster to patch uneven part of the dry wall. This part will be more porous than the rest. So, when priming the wall will look blotchy. This can be solved using a primer meant for that specific purpose. It would be slightly more expensive. There is also primer for heavily stained wall. smile.gif
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post Jan 25 2018, 08:05 AM

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QUOTE(cyberixus @ Jan 24 2018, 10:35 PM)
I have a question.
1.Primer Paint
2.Skim Coat
3.Paint

Which one apply first?
1-2-3 OR 2-1-3 ?
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Skim coat is what people use for filling void like nail holes etc. This is what contractor use to fill gap between plaster ceiling or gypsum wall board. It is not paint as far as I know. Yes, you need to do this first to smoothen the surface to be paint.

I would just user primer>paint>paint.

Don't paint it too thick on one go, else the paint will look like orange peel. Paint one layer and after the surface is lightly dry, paint another layer. This is what normally the instruction said on the paint can but sometimes I am lazy biggrin.gif
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post Feb 24 2018, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(hjh87 @ Feb 24 2018, 04:32 PM)
Hi there, may I ask why the roller is not working on your old ceiling. The paint will not apply easily to the ceiling??
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Try wipe the ceiling with damp cloth first smile.gif
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Mar 21 2020, 01:51 PM)
Hi.. would want to know if using Matex white paint, we still need to add water or thinner when we want to use it?
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Tinner is for oil paint but yours is acrylic water based paint right?

https://www.nipponpaint.com.my/assets/produ...pKey=1066336991
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post Mar 23 2020, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Mar 22 2020, 10:26 PM)
Quote hard to paint as I think it is still think... maybe I am using the wrong brush??!  hmm.gif
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Water based on wall use roller brush is easier. Roll not too fast as it will sputter all over places. Thicker roller holds more paint but too much on it will be dripping. Adjust accordingly. As you paint the paint will get thicker compare to when you opened it. JUst add a bit of water it you felt so.
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QUOTE(stormer.lyn @ May 5 2020, 09:34 PM)
I'd like to give anyone some advice for painting water based paint.

Always have a wet rag available, and immediately wipe up any paint droplets or spills, before it dries.

If you have already dried paint (water or oil based) you can remove it with thinner and a rag. But only if the floor is resistant to thinner (Tile floor okay, laminate/wood cannot)
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Oil based paint can easily removed with turpentine even overnight. If it has been dried too long then you probably need stronger remover like acetone (nail polish is actually acetone as well) These material are safe for laminated floor.

Well, just cover the floor with plastic sheet before paint to reduce tiny droplets especially from paint roller. smile.gif
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QUOTE(barca96 @ May 5 2020, 09:15 PM)
Hi guys. I would like to paint my new house. There is already a white color paint on it but the quality is not so good. Definitely not washable. It is by SKK.

I think I will go for Nippon Odourless Air Care as adviced by Nippon. It is easier to clean compared to their "easy wash" line which surprised me.

I watched a video on YouTube. This guy sand the wall, paints the primer, then sand again, first coat, sand and then 2nd coat.

1) Is it necessary to sand it multiple times?

2) Is it ok to paint at night? I am planning to paint between 9pm-12am.

3) Which roller is the best for water based paint?

4) Is there a particular shop in Klang Valley besides Paint Man that sells a lot of painting tools such as brush, roller, paint?

5) What is the correct step for my new condo? Sand, primer, 1st coat and then 2nd coat?

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Painting of cement wall? No need to sand anything. Since your wall still new, just paint on it. Of too dusty, just wipe with damp cloth.

Water based paint no need to worry if paint at night since it is wwater based anyway if you worry about humidity. Normally people will avoid paint wood if it is damp.

I think you can Google for all your question here. Since it is already newly painted, no need primer. If the wall got stained or paint become chalky, then it is better to prime it first.

Smooth surface can use thinner roller but rough surface need thicker roller so that paint can go into rough surface.

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