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post Jun 21 2018, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(jhua @ Jun 20 2018, 10:20 PM)
Hi all, this is such an informative thread, I have learnt a lot reading all the valuable replies here.

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What do you think about the timeline above?

In addition to that, Id like to slot in a few things:

1. If I want to spend 1-2 days in Osaka. Where should i slot it in? on my 1st and 2nd day?

2. Has anyone tried doing the Amanohashidate boathouse tour? I'd like to slot in for my Tokyo leg.

3. Would it be convenient to travel to Nagoya from Kyoto? Should I reduce the number of days in Nagoya to make way for more days in Osaka?
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It's a timeline that requires you spend a lot of money and very little time doing actual sight-seeing. Is this your first time to Japan? Unless you have a specific place to visit in each area that you're mapping it out this way; otherwise I definitely do not recommend that you make your trip this way.

I'll suggest you spend your 8 days concentrated in Osaka/ Kyoto or at the most do Osaka, Kyoto and Nagoya. Nothing more. Besides, why go to Nagoya? Where are you planning to visit/ do in Nagoya?
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post Jun 21 2018, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(jhua @ Jun 21 2018, 11:49 AM)
Thank you tohff7 for your insights, I will take it into consideration. smile.gif
Thank you Mod sweet_pez. It is not my first time in Japan, but will be my first time going for holiday. My first trip to Japan was for a 3-day work related trip to Tokyo only. So I am very lost in planning for this trip as there is too much things to do and see and plan!  rclxub.gif But I am sure about one thing, this will be more of a sightseeing trip rather than shopping as we don't plan to shop.

My parents are in their early 60's and I feel that my timeline involves too much logistics and moving around. Indeed I felt that Nagoya is a bit unnecessary as there might not be many things to do and see there, the only thing I know about Nagoya is the Toyota Museum, lol.

As our flights will depart from Narita, we'll need to at least spend one night before flying back to Malaysia. If I decide to do without Nagoya, do you think its a good idea to base myself in Kyoto and Osaka? then I can also do side trips to Nara/ Kobe.
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Ah... when you go around solo it's different vs when you have people with you, especially elderly. They may take more time to get ready, and longer to walk. Train stations can be confusing so imagine they follow you around as you get lost going up and down, left and right. Even young people get very tired trying to wake up each day, thus it's much worse for the elderly (especially when you've walked a lot the day before).

With 8 days, I really suggest you don't do Nagoya. I've been there laugh.gif and the interesting things to do are Kiso Valley and Nabana no Sato (lights). But I'm not sure if you'll want to purposely make a trip to Nagoya for this, coz the city itself is mostly shopping. It's a "port" so you can get branded items like LV, Gucci etc at a good price (better than Tokyo). Places like Sakae will have tall buildings with malls all around - H&M, Uniqlo, GU etc.

Osaka itself is big enough. Allocate 1/2 day at Aquarium, balance of the day you can spend in Dotonbori. You can even look up onsen in Kyoto/ Osaka for your family to enjoy and experience. It is part of the Japanese culture afterall biggrin.gif

With 4 days you can do a lot of side trips. Maybe 2-3 days in Kyoto, 2-3 days in Osaka and balance you can consider doing day trip to Nara, Kobe, Himeji etc. One of my friend recommended Koyasan (Mt. Koya) for an overnight trip. He shared his experience of staying a night at the temple with dinner and breakfast prepared by monks there. They slept early and woke up even earlier. At 6am (if you manage to get up), you can see them pray and chant. You can read up here: https://www.japan-guide.com/e/e4905.html

With elderly along, I suggest you visit 2-3 places in a day. It should suffice. Also look up the Opening Hours and closing days when you're planning your trip. No point if you get up early and rush to the attraction, only to find it open at say, 11am.

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post Jun 21 2018, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(jhua @ Jun 21 2018, 01:45 PM)
Mod sweet_pez, thanks for taking the time to reply. With your suggestions, I will cross off Nagoya from my travel plan and focus on Osaka Kyoto. Will spend 6 days in Osaka and Kyoto and will fly back to Tokyo on the afternoon/ evening of the 6th day so we can spend the 7th day in Tokyo and fly back early morning of the 8th day.

We will be landing in NRT early morning one the 1st day and will take a flight to Osaka, reaching shortly after noon time. Do you think we should start our trip in Osaka first? or Head straight to Kyoto? We have not booked our ticket yet to return to Tokyo. So its quite flexible.
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Wait... i'm a little puzzled. You will be landing in Tokyo and leaving from Tokyo, but heading to Osaka/Kyoto to spend the week? Why not visit Tokyo instead? And next time just fly direct to Osaka and back...? Just wondering about this.

Or if you want to include tokyo in your visit, just fly to Tokyo, spend few days then get to Osaka/Kyoto and fly home from Osaka. Save the trip going back to Tokyo again.
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QUOTE(dennisbklow @ Jun 28 2018, 09:32 AM)
Came back from Osaka last Saturday. Had a very bad experience with Booking.com & the host due to the Japan govt ruling.
My trip was frm 18/6 and I was not aware tht my reservation was cancelled on 15/6 bcos d email frm Booking went to my junk mail.
Went ahead with d trip and reached d place at 11.30pm to collect d keys frm letterbox which obviously was not there. Had to hunt for hotels and settled down at abt 2am.
Next day went back to collect d keys frm d keys management agent and onli then was told my reservation was cancelled.
No choice..Later on got email frm host telling me of 'no show'. He argued tht it was my fault and d keys was there. Utter nonsense
Contacted Booking & asked for refund and they later email d host. Also same respond. Now host very adamant and refused to refund.
Really kena cheated. The joke was d host said I tried to cheat them for asking for refund.
Now even Booking cant do much. Really bad timing
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That's odd. Booking.com is mostly inn/ ryokan, guesthouse, Hotels etc. So they even have airbnb style apartment? I don't recall much as all my apartment is via AirBnB. I only book Hotels with Booking.com.

When you see there were no keys at the mailbox, should have contacted the Host and inform him that it's not there. Take a photo of the empty mailbox. Share the same to Booking.com. Then you show them the receipt/ tax invoice of your stay at the Hotel/ accommodation on that day. This is proof that you had to pay extra for another stay.

If all of it are only "hearsay" or justification from both parties with no evidence, there's nothing Booking can do. Thus when there's trouble, always take action to contact all parties so that they are aware of the issue.

Sorry to hear of your experience. Do hope you'll have a more pleasant stay in Japan in future. I've used Booking.com multiple times and didn't encounter any issue - except - when I tried to request for a Tax Invoice for a previous stay (just 1 month ago). They will ask you to contact the Hotel directly though, and there was no reply from the Hotel.
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July is the month of festival in Japan! That's why in Malaysia we also have Bon Odori.

Those flying, or currently in Japan, take a look at this list of events that you can attend. Everything seems so exciting and jolly so do enjoy!

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Check it out here

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post Jul 2 2018, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(zWinceZz @ Jun 29 2018, 01:27 PM)
Ideal path for shirakawa would be from Nagoya right?
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QUOTE(zWinceZz @ Jun 29 2018, 01:37 PM)
i am looking at Viet airline now, 1242 for 2 ways flight from kl to tokyo/osaka/nagoya and the transit period is quite short...
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Yes, ideally you go from Nagoya. And yes, Vietnam Air is good. Comfortable with in-flight meals. To Nagoya, it usually transit in HCM and when you're flying back to KUL, transit in Hanoi. The only negative thing is that there's no in-flight entertainment.


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QUOTE(chinti @ Jul 2 2018, 12:19 PM)
how's the seat for vietnam air? comfy for slightly bigger size guy? i c the price for vietnam air is extremely cheap.
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Cheap??? For flying at which period?

The seat is comfy and pretty spacious (as I recall it). And in my opinion the legroom appears to be even more spacious than MAS. The food btw, is also better than our MAS sweat.gif however since Vietnamese usually have beef or fish, most of the time the menu consists of these two.

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QUOTE(iXora.ix @ Jul 3 2018, 07:12 PM)
Haha, no problem. The main reason is airbnb cancel 1 week before my travel date and 1 day before i depart to osaka, which I do survay the hotel and the price is skyrocket. Second they provide voicher equal to full refund so I get refund plus voucher. In my case, the property cost rm 1200. Luckily i manage to secure last minute property and only use voucher at all, which big saving( although not my fav area)

For me, I love to use airbnb in Japan since I can cook and do laundry ( although there is laundromat nearby😅) and can see how their community are.
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Cooking aside, laundry is not that expensive outside biggrin.gif meaning, laundromat probably will cost you 100-200yen for washing and another 100-200yen for dry cleaning. Say, that's a total of 500yen @ around RM20 max given the exchange rate now. It's not worth choosing airbnb if it's giving too much hassle and uncertainty of cancellation over the RM20 of laundry.

Undoubtly, airbnb is convenient for family especially when there's children. When it's 2-3 people travelling together, Hotel may be a better choice depending on potential cost saving.

At the end of the day, it's subjectively based on individual preference. For me it's Hotel > airbnb if price is about the same.

QUOTE(jsnkok @ Jul 3 2018, 09:20 PM)
Wanna ask about the Nohi bus reservation for Kanazawa <> Shirakawa-go. Does it need to be done way in advance or I can reserve it via Counter at the bus Station? Planning a trip there end January
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When you need to take the bus, book online. If it's peak season, the tickets at counter may run out so better play it safe. And yes, you can reserve online:
https://japanbusonline.com/en/CourseSearch/11900040002
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QUOTE(teng_08 @ Jul 10 2018, 12:58 PM)
Thanks for your time to help me search. Never heard of www.jalan.net, probably because its in Japanese.
But I'll definitely check out the website when I'm back home later smile.gif

Cheers!
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Optionally, you can try Sakura Hotel. The cheapest is at Nippori, a room for 2 people (tatami style, which i think your child can sleep in the middle) @ 7,100yen. I believe this meets your budget. Nippori is about 20min away from Shinjuku (station) by train. Just take note that if you stay far away from the main hub (also depending on your itinerary), you may end up spending more money and time taking trains/ transiting. Best to map your itinerary out and plan well, especially with a child along.

Sakura Hotel also have branches in Ikebukuro, Asakusa etc but the price is higher there (easily 1-2kyen higher).

Check it out here: https://www.sakura-hotel.co.jp/ (in English, no worries)
When you search, just choose "Private" and 2 pax.

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QUOTE(Puteih @ Jul 8 2018, 11:46 PM)
Hello all,
I'm planning for my first solo trip to Osaka this November. I'm contemplating between 5 days or 8 days over there. I think 5 days should be more than enough for my itenary, but I'm not sure if I should extend my area of visit. Do you have any suggestions?

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Goal of the trip is maybe to just run away from my work, have some good foods.

Sorry if I violate any rules here with this posting, I'm still researching around.
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Check out page #1 for more info and recommendations of itinerary.
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QUOTE(teng_08 @ Jul 10 2018, 02:15 PM)
Thanks for your suggestion sweet_pez, also, I read about your misfortune during your trip. Sometimes we overlook things, even the simplest thing. But hey, lesson learnt smile.gif
And u had a great trip, thats what matters.

Yes, my ideal location is nearby Shinjuku station as we can get about easily but might consider other locations nearby.
I've stayed at Empire Hotel near to Shin-Okubo. Location is not bad but already fully booked on 2 - 5 Nov.
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Sakura Hotel is fine, an acquaintance stayed there before and commented it's good.

Bad things happen even when it's not your fault biggrin.gif I guess that's the interesting part of travel. Shared this story with my sensei and he laughed saying it's interesting and a different experience. I conveyed this to my friend and she said, "Not so funny when you're the one missing the bus!" laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif it was frustrating then, and it wasn't a "good" memory but it's not all that bad afterall. The next time we meet (friend in Adelaide), we'll probably laugh about it. That's the fun part about travelling. We will never see the "bad" things coming, nor the little pleasant surprises along the way.
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QUOTE(luvjim @ Jul 10 2018, 05:10 PM)
I see, then I think I'm going to find other area. Actually not so into the auction. But visit the market is one of the itinerary.  biggrin.gif
Yeah, I have read about the details and rules if to visit the Tsukiji market and the relocation, just want to double confirm. Many thanks.

I'll be staying in Tokyo for 7nights, then proceed another 2 night in Lake Kawaguchiko.
Any place recommend for easier traveling? Like less transit? Coz will be traveling with 2 children.
Classically, will be visit the common tourist attraction in Asakusa, Akihabara, Ginza, Shinjuku and Disneyland(2 days).
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Drop your pin on Google Map on places you want to visit and then check the transit. You'll find out whether the itinerary is ideal or too hectic. Suggest you do up your itinerary first and then check with forumers.

QUOTE(NAQD @ Jul 10 2018, 11:40 PM)
For Tsukiji market, let my photo speaks for itself.
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Hahahahaha your picture looked so bright, easily 5-6am or later? lol.gif

QUOTE(SUPERBGEEK @ Jul 10 2018, 11:48 PM)
Hi, anyone used the Seishun 18 ticket to get from Osaka to Tokyo before? Need some guidance as this is purely dependent on JR trains and the regular trains. In the blog, I read that there are reserved seats and if my memory doesn't fail me when I last went to Osaka several years ago, I sat on proper cushioned seats from Osaka to Kyoto, are these reserved seats? If I don't reserved my seat in the train from Osaka to Tokyo, am I sitting on the steel seats? I once sat on those from Kyoto to Osaka, stopping at every station, it was a killer!
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I've used the Seishun 18 ticket but it wasn't for Osaka to Tokyo. I went from Nagoya to Takayama (Gifu prefecture). Not sure about reserved seats but we didn't book those. We just got on the Limited Express train and changed train twice. It's like you're getting on a regular train.

And seishun 18 is really value for money thus the trade off is your time. It's a long ride to your destination (compared to taking a bullet train) at a cheaper cost, stopping in most stations. It benefits people who are not in a rush to get to their destination. Not sure about the train to Osaka/ Tokyo, but mine was normal cushion. If you're worried then just go for reserved seats - pretty much solves your concern, no?

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QUOTE(zWinceZz @ Jul 13 2018, 11:26 AM)
i will reach Narita airport on saturday 10 Nov 2018 7:15am then heading to kawaguchiko until 11 Nov 2018 and back to Tokyo.

Anyone can recommend on what transportation to take from airport and what transportation pass to get (includes touring around kawaguchiko)?
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Straight from airport? Bus. Google around, you'll find what you're looking for.

Yes there are local tour/ sightseeing buses. The Kawaguchiko station is the "hub" or place to get passes, tickets, board buses/ trains etc. There's also an information counter there.
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QUOTE(leonghan @ Jul 16 2018, 09:46 AM)
I'm planning to Osaka and kyoto area for 9D8N.
How is the weather over there during the time.
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You can refer to page 1, post #1 on this question, or do a basic search on Google.
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QUOTE(zWinceZz @ Jul 16 2018, 10:04 AM)
ya, straight from airport...
i did google on it, some say got direct NEX from Narita to kawaguchiko station during weekend, but most suggested to take train to shinjuku station then take bus from there...
i am still quite confusing on their metro passes...
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Yes there's Direct Bus from Narita to Kawaguchiko:
http://bus-en.fujikyu.co.jp/highway/detail/id/39/

You can also leave from Shinjuku via either train or bus, but what's the point of lugging your baggage around and get to Shinjuku then board the train/ bus from there, when you can save all hassle/ problem by boarding the bus directly at the airport and get to your destination? Unless you plan to store your luggage bag in Shinjuku locker, that changes the scenario.

Secondly, there's also option for you to send your luggage from airport to your Hotel directly without having the need to bring your luggage all the way to Kawaguchiko.

Japan is a country of convenience. There are many ways to travel and do things, depending on your budget and way of travelling. All you have to do is more research for planning. Planning makes a world of difference as you can then decide based on your options.

As for Metro pass - it's simple. Metro pass is only for subway lines operated under Tokyo Metro, for use within Tokyo city. You cannot use the pass for bus, or train line operated by other companies.

Metro pass information are on Page 1 Post #1 including links for you to read up on.
Page 1 Post #1 also has information on IC card such as SUICA/ PASMO that works like Touch n Go. Read them up.



P/S: Wow we've hit 100 pages already. That's fast!

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QUOTE(zWinceZz @ Jul 16 2018, 10:39 AM)
yup, i found out about the direct bus too, if i am not wrong, the direct bus departs on 9:15am and people are saying the road jam is terrible during weekend...
storing big luggage bag and depart with bag pack sounds like a good idea...will try to google more info about it..

Regarding the metro pass, what i am confusing is the package that they offered, 1 day pass, 3 day pass and 5 day pass, i think i need more time to find out what is their usage and see if it is usable on my trip routes...

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I'm sure there are different option of time departing from the airport (for the bus). Jam during the weekend? Then you can switch your plan and go to Kawaguchiko over a weekday instead? Anywhere you go over the weekend is definitely crowded and jam even in Malaysia laugh.gif

Option #2 : instead of storing in Shinjuku or sending your luggage, you can also store in Kawaguchiko station. There are lockers and baggage storage areas at the cost of 500yen for 1 day per luggage (but usually lockers INSIDE Kawaguchiko station is full, so worry not - many shops nearby and lockers situation outside the station for use).

Metro Pass: yes, they have 1 day, 3 days and 5 days option. But keep in mind if you buy this pass you can only take Metro Line subway. You cannot use the pass and ride a JR line subway or any other line not operated by Metro Line.

For example, imagine local KL where we have KTM and LRT. If you bought a 3 days LRT pass you can only use it to ride LRT, and cannot use it for KTM ride. Simple as that. Consider looking up the train/ transport system in Tokyo.

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QUOTE(Chester @ Jul 16 2018, 10:01 PM)
Im going to japan early december..searching for hotel in tokyo for 7nights.. any recommendation for 2 adults? Most important is nice and convinient. I read before that there are many many train lines in tokyo.. but i dont rmb which line is the 1 recommended to stay near.. .any thanks!
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Many recommendations actually, depending on what you're looking for. Personally I like staying in Asakusa and have stayed there often when I'm in Tokyo. It's convenient with many shops, friendly environment and you can get to Narita Airport directly from the train station. But I usually stay airBnB in Asakusa hmm.gif

Check out Booking.com or Agoda - I'm sure you'll find what you're looking for.

QUOTE(Hevlaska @ Jul 16 2018, 11:17 PM)
really? i didnt know about that. I used airb outside tokyo all the time, last was Osaka around August i think. But he did mentioned 4-500RM/night within budget, so i guess still ample choices. Just need to pick somewhere strategic to where he wanna go.

But if its up to me, i'd probably not stay at the same hotel for 7 days(if for holiday), relocating also part of the fun in exploration laugh.gif
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Yes there was a big hoo-haa as a lot of accommodations (that were booked and paid for) was cancelled.
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QUOTE(swn525 @ Jul 16 2018, 08:06 PM)
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this time is maybank, up to 40%
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By the way this one - the price shown upon choosing flights - is before the discounted rate right? Meaning the final price/ cost is only reflected when proceed to pay with card?
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QUOTE(zWinceZz @ Jul 17 2018, 11:14 AM)
i think it is final discounted price if you are using the maybank link to search for flight tickets...

I did a comparison just now, using the maybank link is about RM180++ round trip cheaper than using the official website search...
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Hmmmm then it's not really that cheap hmm.gif thought it's subject to further discount. If not, then I guess the period I want to travel is still expensive - peak season (New Year).
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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ Jul 17 2018, 01:19 PM)
indeed...180+/- ain't that great of a discount
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I look at the overall price. Still expensive so guess need to wait abit. Probably other destination will have a higher % discount.

QUOTE(swn525 @ Jul 17 2018, 01:50 PM)
https://www.malaysiaairlines.com/MYmaybank
use this link
price shown upon choosing flights = final price
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Yes I opened through the link. Just wanted to confirm if the price shown via the link is final price, or like some banks - the discount is shown/ only appear when you hit the payment page. I tried up to that but didn't see any rebate. Thanks for the clarification.

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