we are both saying the same thing lah...
you can ignore the soreness you feel when u first started out.
cos ur muscles were not conditioned then, that's why it sores.
After a few weeks, you are stronger now, so that's why no more pain/sore.

You don't need sore to grow bigger.
Just keep it up.

any muslims here? Syd? gtoforce?
next week puasa already....
what did you guys planned for this whole 1 month?
cutting?
man...im gonna lose my (small) mass
maybe im gonna rest for 1 month~~
if i train i don think ill grow in caloric deficit mode

Chow

my opinion lah... shoes prob.
It happened again on the threadmill even with proper shoes is because u already injured it.

What in da world H&F shifted to life's matter , its a lifestyle !!!

well, most sprinters especially are African Americans and these ppls' genetics are superb, man, im tellin ya! btw, sprinters got big bodies bcos their legs need explosive power unlike marathon runners where you need bloody stamina and leg strength..well, i think so...

If you are referring to his condition, meaning low bodyfat, ya why not? If you are referring to his size, I am sure you can do much better than that....

no dinner? imo, it will make u hard to lose fat.

i wonder why ppl like to starve themselves when dieting. i cannot imagine anybody can follow this diet plan for ten years. so why not choose a easy and comfortable path?
eating more meals (5-6 meals) with less quantity every day is a more effective diet plan.

the principle is still the same- "WILL lose weight when you consume LESSER calories than your body burns."
in addition of consume LESSER calories, we can make our body burn more calories.

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Added on September 22, 2007, 11:42 am
the black guy has cannon ball shoulders 

Do you really want to lose weight? The SIMPLEST routine you can get with, is a fullbody routine, three times a week, DO NOT train to failure. Find rippetoe, find madcow, it's been recommended like a b|tch already....

Train with circuits (google) on your rest days, (Don't go too strenuous) and train hard, eat well and don't ever underestimate nutrition. Learn about nutrition. Don't be those goons that sit by the word of rice being evil and carbs are stupid.

Word of advice, STRETCH. Too many ppl undermine the importance of stretching. Stretch during workouts, after workouts and anytime you feel like. I've a theory that stretching could probably be the key to stretch marks (and NO i do not relate their importance because of the word "stretch" solely) prevention. Meanwhile, train hard.

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Added on September 22, 2007, 3:48 pmBtw, how to squat?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq8CWv8UPAI

All squat RX vids are good 2 watch

ya know............LEARNING and EATING nutrition is different you know. I just say learn about nutrition, because with proper education about nutrition, you'll learn what is best for your body especially those of you who are after looks.

It's extremely important to know how what nutrients affect how your overall density, muscularity, whether or not you'll look good naked blablabla, how to time your food this and that. I HATE eating clean and all tat, but it doesn't stop me from learning what to eat and how to time it, and what syrups are good for my muscles, what are good for my liver, what sort of vitamins will affect my muscle recovery.

And no, powerlifters don't just EAT whatever they see. WE're humans too, not exactly DBKL or MPSJ.

your frens are really something man.....
respect
Chow

just curious... do ur frens know u posted their half-naked unmasked photo on the web  ?
they may become famous if their photo is circulated over the internet 

your intention may be good. hopefully it don't fall into the hands of ppl who save it, and post it up on some gay site or something 
btw, juz wondering, how old yer frens and trained how long?

wow...they are super ripped, man...especially the black guy over there..

dayummm...
they even have a nice squat rack
not bad ah this IiU....but how come ......are those chinese or something?

I've got question, why wanna post other people's picture when you can post your own lean muscular body