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post Dec 17 2017, 09:59 PM, updated 8y ago

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Been using 1mbps since forever and it's really slow/unstable during PS4 online sessions. I'm about to change it to 8mbps (unifi unavailable so I've got no choice).

Also can someone (those who are using 8mbps) tell me what your PS4 NAT type is? I heard someone said that they have NAT type 3 (which is bad for online gaming) when they are using the Streamyx 8mbps package due to TM private IP thingy.
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post Dec 18 2017, 01:09 AM

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using 1mb here for my ps4 and pc. as for nat can get type 1 if directly connect to modem via PPoE. as nat type 3 usually it was TM fault bcoz assigned a private IP for user. call them and ask them to switch to public IP and prob solve.
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post Dec 18 2017, 10:54 AM

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8M user here, NAT 2 all this while, never got a NAT 3 before
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post Dec 18 2017, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Dec 18 2017, 10:54 AM)
8M user here, NAT 2 all this while, never got a NAT 3 before
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That's good to hear! Is it stable?
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post Dec 18 2017, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(dark_heart07 @ Dec 18 2017, 01:09 AM)
using 1mb here for my ps4 and pc. as for nat can get type 1 if directly connect to modem via PPoE. as nat type 3 usually it was TM fault bcoz assigned a private IP for user. call them and ask them to switch to public IP and prob solve.
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If I choose PPPoE connection on my PS4 I can get NAT type 1? Can you explain the steps needed to make that PPPoE connection? Recently I'm getting NAT type 3 on my PS4 and I'm not sure what caused the change because previously my PS4 was always on NAT type 2.

I'm also using 1mb speed.

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TS404xfound
post Dec 18 2017, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(robzombie79 @ Dec 18 2017, 06:17 PM)
If I choose PPPoE connection on my PS4 I can get NAT type 1? Can you explain the steps needed to make that PPPoE connection? Recently I'm getting NAT type 3 on my PS4 and I'm not sure what caused the change because previously my PS4 was always on NAT type 2.

I'm also using 1mb speed.
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I'm facing the same issue with my 1mbps connection. I bet they have changed our previous IP (public IP = NAT 1/2) to private IP (NAT 3) without our knowledge. I heard it's because the world is running low on public IP so they are trying to reserve those for people who are using higher speed package. We who are still using 1mbps are not their priorities.
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post Dec 18 2017, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(robzombie79 @ Dec 18 2017, 06:17 PM)
If I choose PPPoE connection on my PS4 I can get NAT type 1? Can you explain the steps needed to make that PPPoE connection? Recently I'm getting NAT type 3 on my PS4 and I'm not sure what caused the change because previously my PS4 was always on NAT type 2.

I'm also using 1mb speed.
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it's complicated to set for PPoE bcoz u need to change ur modem function to bridge mode. so when setting the internet connection on ps4 select custom and select PPoE. there u need to key in ur streamyx user (user@streamyx) with streamyx password. but ur other device will not able to use internet (if they use same wifi/cable connection) bcoz streamyx 1 mb is only for 1 user.
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post Dec 18 2017, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(404xfound @ Dec 18 2017, 11:41 PM)
I'm facing the same issue with my 1mbps connection. I bet they have changed our previous IP (public IP = NAT 1/2) to private IP (NAT 3) without our knowledge. I heard it's because the world is running low on public IP so they are trying to reserve those for people who are using higher speed package. We who are still using 1mbps are not their priorities.
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just spam email them ask for public IP bcoz using remote cctv at home. with private IP u cannot view cctv at home using remote view from outside. icon_idea.gif brows.gif
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post Dec 19 2017, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(dark_heart07 @ Dec 18 2017, 11:56 PM)
just spam email them ask for public IP bcoz using remote cctv at home. with private IP u cannot view cctv at home using remote view from outside. icon_idea.gif brows.gif
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Will they listen to us though? You know lar... TM staff's attitude whistling.gif
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post Dec 19 2017, 09:45 AM

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QUOTE(404xfound @ Dec 19 2017, 12:06 AM)
Will they listen to us though? You know lar... TM staff's attitude  whistling.gif
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has got nothing to do with attitude my man. they aint gonna give you public IP just because you need it. they have a package for public IP and you need to pay extra if you need it. CCTV can easily be reached from outside using dynamic dns+portforwarding.

anyway, for the NAT thingy,

NAT1 = PS4 connected directly with public IP
NAT2 = PS4 being within private IP segment, NATed once by your home router
NAT3 = same case as above, but NATed twice. This can be caused by few things, but most obvious is you have a second router. If you don't then it's probably the configuration inside your home router, where its either setting up a virtual gateway for redundancy or segmenting your network, or could be number of other reasons.

But NAT type alone should be a problem for any of your PS online session, as long as you have good latency/bandwidth. They are more relevant when you using Remote Play from the internet, where you client need to find your PS4 to connect.
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post Dec 19 2017, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(angelflames @ Dec 19 2017, 09:45 AM)
has got nothing to do with attitude my man. they aint gonna give you public IP just because you need it. they have a package for public IP and you need to pay extra if you need it. CCTV can easily be reached from outside using dynamic dns+portforwarding.

anyway, for the NAT thingy,

NAT1 = PS4 connected directly with public IP
NAT2 = PS4 being within private IP segment, NATed once by your home router
NAT3 = same case as above, but NATed twice. This can be caused by few things, but most obvious is you have a second router. If you don't then it's probably the configuration inside your home router, where its either setting up a virtual gateway for redundancy or segmenting your network, or could be number of other reasons.

But NAT type alone should be a problem for any of your PS online session, as long as you have good latency/bandwidth. They are more relevant when you using Remote Play from the internet, where you client need to find your PS4 to connect.
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So if they give me private IP then it'd be NAT 3? Anyway, they usually give private IP de ar? Cuz nat 3 sucks and I really wish I'm not paying so much money for 8mbps and get NAT 3 lol

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post Dec 27 2017, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(404xfound @ Dec 19 2017, 01:04 PM)
So if they give me private IP then it'd be NAT 3? Anyway, they usually give private IP de ar? Cuz nat 3 sucks and I really wish I'm not paying so much money for 8mbps and get NAT 3 lol
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something else is within your network that causing you to get NAT 3. Usual case of where PS4->Router->Internet, you should get NAT2.

Just FYI, everybody get private IP. Public IP is mostly for business use, or if you want to setup server that cannot be down at all for whatever reasons. It is also much more expensive.

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post Dec 27 2017, 02:01 PM

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8mb user here. Im too lazy tinkering around the router so I'll just let it auto set up.

So far best connections I can get
1. Mgo - red or 1 bar. Usually red lah laugh.gif
2. Pes 2017 R2 - one to two bar
3. Killing floor - 70 to 90
4. Bf4. - 3 bar
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post Dec 27 2017, 08:37 PM

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4mbps, 8mbps no problem... if lag, blame tm due to their topkekness routing.. but so far no problem la, even bf1 plays fine
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post Aug 29 2018, 01:37 AM

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What about downloading games or updates more than 10gb? Gonna take forever with 8mbps?
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post Aug 29 2018, 08:10 AM

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QUOTE(kming @ Aug 29 2018, 01:37 AM)
What about downloading games or updates more than 10gb? Gonna take forever with 8mbps?
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just put your PS4 in standby mode and let it download overnight
usually should complete overnight or within 24 hours
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post Aug 29 2018, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Aug 29 2018, 08:10 AM)
just put your PS4 in standby mode and let it download overnight
usually should complete overnight or within 24 hours
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poor thing with low speed. consume a lot of electricity also.
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post Aug 29 2018, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Aug 29 2018, 11:21 AM)
poor thing with low speed. consume a lot of electricity also.
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not so much when it's in rest mode, which consumes only 4Watts
you let it run a year in rest mode also the electricity bill is only less than RM10

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post Aug 29 2018, 01:08 PM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ Aug 29 2018, 11:43 AM)
not so much when it's in rest mode, which consumes only 4Watts
you let it run a year in rest mode also the electricity bill is only less than RM10
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yes, but time is the killer. tongue.gif

and with slow speed, the user experience for online gaming will not be good.
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post Aug 29 2018, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(kming @ Aug 29 2018, 01:37 AM)
What about downloading games or updates more than 10gb? Gonna take forever with 8mbps?
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Tumpang ur friend’s house with 100Mbps unifi for dload.
Treat him/her with a nice frappuccino afterwards and don’t forget to say thank you.

On a more serious note, some gameshops provide a ‘downloading service’ with some fee included.

If so happens that you’re staying in Melaka, the Game Houz in Ayer Keroh provide such service.

They have Unifi connection.
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post Aug 29 2018, 10:58 PM

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Lol, i actually thought about tumpang friend house which is just a block away. But if keep on updating, seems troublesome.

But since i am not into online gaming, i think i will survive with 8mbps using rest mode when i'm away to work.

Thanks every sifu for sharing info.
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post Dec 10 2018, 11:19 PM

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guys, want to ask. I already set a static ip for my ps4, already open port forwarding, but I'm still getting NAT Type 3 Connection.

I'm getting pissed off now by this type 3
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post Dec 10 2018, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(epsonstylux @ Dec 10 2018, 11:19 PM)
guys, want to ask. I already set a static ip for my ps4, already open port forwarding, but I'm still getting NAT Type 3 Connection.

I'm getting pissed off now by this type 3
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Did your router get public IP from the ISP?
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post Dec 11 2018, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(t4lruum @ Dec 10 2018, 11:27 PM)
Did your router get public IP from the ISP?
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how to know if my router public or private?
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post Dec 11 2018, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(epsonstylux @ Dec 11 2018, 12:38 AM)
how to know if my router public or private?
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just google 'what is my ip' and you'll get it. if ur streamyx IP start with 10.xxx.xxx.xxx most likely it was private IP so any connection from ur streamyx are nat type 3. been there before. got changed to public after i emailed TM ask them to change back to public from private after I can't connect to any multiplayer games on ps4.
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QUOTE(dark_heart07 @ Dec 11 2018, 01:27 AM)
just google 'what is my ip' and you'll get it. if ur streamyx IP start with 10.xxx.xxx.xxx most likely it was private IP so any connection from ur streamyx are nat type 3. been there before. got changed to public after i emailed TM ask them to change back to public from private after I can't connect to any multiplayer games on ps4.
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On whatsmyip my ip is 1.32.68.192

Local ip is 192.168 as usual.

Is that considered as private? I already set static ip for the ps4, already open port forwarding. Nothing works.
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QUOTE(dark_heart07 @ Dec 11 2018, 01:27 AM)
just google 'what is my ip' and you'll get it.
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This is not the correct way to check if you have private IP or public IP.
The result will always show the public IP.

QUOTE(epsonstylux @ Dec 11 2018, 06:49 AM)
On whatsmyip my ip is 1.32.68.192
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You will need to login your router & compare the result with the router/modem's WAN IP.
If it matches, you definitely have public IP.

If your router/modem WAN IP is not matching, then you have private IP on your side.
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QUOTE(Hattori @ Dec 11 2018, 02:03 PM)
This is not the correct way to check if you have private IP or public IP.
The result will always show the public IP.
You will need to login your router & compare the result with the router/modem's WAN IP.
If it matches, you definitely have public IP.

If your router/modem WAN IP is not matching, then you have private IP on your side.
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Ooo i didnt know that. Seeing my ip starts from 1 i figure mine is already public.
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post Dec 11 2018, 06:59 PM

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my router wan ip is 100.108.xxx.xxx
public ip on whatismyip is the 1.32.xxx.xxx

so confirmed la streamyx assigned me a private ip. Already ask them to change to public, they opened a report.
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post Dec 12 2018, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(Hattori @ Dec 11 2018, 02:03 PM)
This is not the correct way to check if you have private IP or public IP.
The result will always show the public IP.
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well last time it works on me lol laugh.gif
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post Jan 1 2019, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(epsonstylux @ Dec 11 2018, 06:59 PM)
my router wan ip is 100.108.xxx.xxx
public ip on whatismyip is the 1.32.xxx.xxx

so confirmed la streamyx assigned me a private ip. Already ask them to change to public, they opened a report.
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Did they change? Damn it mine oso nat 3 now.
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QUOTE(ali_xpdc @ Jan 1 2019, 10:20 AM)
Did they change? Damn it mine oso nat 3 now.
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Haha they did. I followed a forummer advice here saying i need public ip for cctv
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QUOTE(epsonstylux @ Jan 1 2019, 11:47 AM)
Haha they did. I followed a forummer advice here saying i need public ip for cctv
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Wah good, I'll try the same then


My router ip start 100.xxxxxxx
What's my ip check starts 60.xxxxxx *correction now its 218.xxxxxxxxxx
Same case la kan?

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post Jan 1 2019, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(ali_xpdc @ Jan 1 2019, 01:26 PM)
Wah good,  I'll try the same then
My router ip start 100.xxxxxxx
What's my ip check starts 60.xxxxxx
Same case la kan?
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I think so. But they took 3 4 days to change the ip
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post Jan 1 2019, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(angelflames @ Dec 19 2017, 09:45 AM)
has got nothing to do with attitude my man. they aint gonna give you public IP just because you need it. they have a package for public IP and you need to pay extra if you need it. CCTV can easily be reached from outside using dynamic dns+portforwarding.

anyway, for the NAT thingy,

NAT1 = PS4 connected directly with public IP
NAT2 = PS4 being within private IP segment, NATed once by your home router
NAT3 = same case as above, but NATed twice. This can be caused by few things, but most obvious is you have a second router. If you don't then it's probably the configuration inside your home router, where its either setting up a virtual gateway for redundancy or segmenting your network, or could be number of other reasons.

But NAT type alone should be a problem for any of your PS online session, as long as you have good latency/bandwidth. They are more relevant when you using Remote Play from the internet, where you client need to find your PS4 to connect.
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on unifi, NAT type 2.

Was on streamyx 4Mbps before, the speed is terrible. Even YouTube streaming experience is not good.

I think for online gaming, latency and upload speed matters more. Both sucks on streamyx.
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post Jan 1 2019, 11:18 PM

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Untunglah you guys at least got 4MB and above. Me still stuck with 1MB Screamyx. doh.gif

I'm using direct bridge mode from modem to pc/ps4. Need to sign in via PPoE username & password on both pc/ps4. My nat type on ps4 is type 1. So far almost 15 years on 1MB the ping is bearable bcoz on BFV ps4 <50ms and <60ms on BO4 pc.

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