from my observation.. ios12 still not optimized for A11 Bionic..that why still sluggish on app drawer

if u using for converter ,edit img or gaming.. will feel the different..

my friend also using 6s plus.. still smooth though for basic things

also my ipad mini 2 feels buttery smooth again.. this ios 12 really2 give life for old device..

what a update

hi apple lads, ayam got aquestion...

is iP8 still worth to be getting nowadays???

been using android for more than 5 years now and current oneplus one is dying, in need of new phones. but the problem is there's not much of a choice when it comes to reliable 5" inch phone(thanks to samsung brick note for starting this trend).

so i've narrowed it down to iP8

but in terms of the device itself and its high price point. is it really worth it for long running, the plan is to keep using it until 3-4 years to come. what are the drawbacks here? is there any better alternative? (my guess is no alt. , but i could be overlooking)

hopefully can get some advice/caution here before pulling the trigger and then be regret with this decision making(which i really want to avoid)

cheers!

As u can see, apple still support ip6s. If u planning to use for long term I would say go ahead. It's expensive no doubt but for long term why not?

The drawbacks is the limitations of ios itself. But it also depends on individual, some are fine with the limitations as they don't need more than that. I'd say go and try ios for once.

Iphone XR will be a wise choice.

well, in terms of experiencing iOS itself...im quite fine with it, had been loaned older iphones due to work purposes...nowadays don't have the time privilege for customisation....no gaming, just ig/twitter/reddit/spotify....and random web browsing

btw im going to be missing Clover app on android, but thankfully wifi on oneplus still working so no worries there

when its going to launch at MY, did some direct SGD conversion...seems like need to forked a bit of cash

and how big is XR compared to regular ip8? is it still comfy with one hand uses? does the notch triggering nerves while watching youtube?

btw what you mean why 'wise', care to elaborabe?

Even if the phone can still be used after 3-4 years, the battery life will shorten and it’s a problem. I don’t think any phone can still maintain 70% or its initial battery capacity after so many years.

eh isn't this is because due to charging habit, errynight charge until full when you dont have to. just keep it at 80-90 to 20 percent is enough

and from the way you're saying it...seems like battery replacement program is bad thing?



btw what's your verdict then? skip iP8 and buy sth else?

My point is, no matter how stable iPhone is even after 3-4 years , the battery will still fail, although other hardware parts might still be ok. I think if u are a heavy user after using it for 2 years u will realise the shorten battery life.

which means buying iP8 is a bad thing then? even from financial standpoint?

it obvious you're going for battery even from first reply...but i just don't see any continuity from there

you keep on babbling about battery life and that's it! there's no end-to-end solution to that

Haha sorry mate, I can’t gv u a definitive conclusion. Its all up to ur own interpreting. If you have budget and you like iOS then why not? Just go for whatever u can afford.

haha. no worries mate. i'll keep your advice in mind

First things first. The bad stuffs. Android is a very different system from iOS. You either like it or hate it, depending on your needs and usage patterns. So to pay more than 2k for a system you're not sure if you will end up liking or not is definitely a risk. There's no 2 ways about that.

The iPhone 8's design is similar to the iPhone 6, which means it's a 4-year-old design. In this day and age of thin or almost no bezels, the 8 will look ancient, so much so that it's also the last of Apple's phone with these thick bezels and the home button, I'm sure you've seen the new generation iPhones. I mean I get that you'd prefer a compact phone but for that same size of the iPhone 8, you could get other alternatives with more screen estate. Off the top of my head, there's the S9 or even the HTC U11. Both great devices.

As for battery life, iOS devices have excellent standby, but they deplete as fast as their Android counterparts during use, and they run out of juice earlier too as they typically pack a smaller battery compared to Androids. So that's one thing to bear in mind too.

The good is iOS devices are guaranteed support for at least 4 years. In fact, the latest iOS 12 is even supported by the iPhone 5S, which is 5 years old. You're guaranteed to get frequent software updates too, as Apple controls both software and hardware, they tend to push updates faster than other phone manufacturers. As for Android, Google has gone on record to guarantee at least 2 years of updates, but go with the right phone manufacturer and maybe you'll get more.

The A11 chip in the iPhone 8 has been benchmarked against the latest SD845 and it's still ahead in most areas, so rest assured you're getting a very capable phone, and the way iOS is designed, you can be sure it won't lag behind or run out of steam in the next 3-4 years. So longevity isn't an issue.

In the end, it's up to you to decide the pros and cons before pulling the trigger!

This post has been edited by attw: Sep 23 2018, 12:47 PM

oh how i love your reply! exactly what i came here for

as for the bold part, yeah i tend to agree...sure the hardware and software is future proof given how good iPhone track record is, but not the outdated design...worried that might be the buyers' remorse after 1 year of using it. hard to swallow but edge-to-edge display with notch is the way to move forward now. makes sense when few people here recommend to opt for IPXR instead. its like buying ip8+, but with more wide/tall screen estate and face ID + A12 bionic

at one point i do consider s9, but i still cannot put my trust to samsung bloatware even how much they claim to improve. i'd rather relearn iOS gesture than to touch skinned android.

ah well, some things got be sacrificed. outdated screen but compact size, or modern edge-to-edge display but a bigger form factor.....

thanks for the well-thought output!

The iPhone XR is quite a bit bigger though, forget about using it one handedly, the edge to edge display doesn't help.
I think the iPhone x is more comparable in size to an iPhone 8, and it has seen now gone down in price.

As per other alternative, I still think the Apple still has the edge not only in raw power, and long term software support, but the general apps experience is better across the board, this might be trivial but it makes a difference when you use those apps everyday, developers just tend to give more attention to iOS apps and design and optimize it better. I've used OnePlus 3T and 6splus, while the 3T has performed quickly, apps like ig and fb still isn't as buttery smooth as on the iPhone.

This post has been edited by Stitchie: Sep 23 2018, 11:55 AM

No worries. We're here to help

I've been using a Samsung since the Note 3, and while my frustrations with that phone drove me to the iPhone, I still bought and tried Samsung phones over the years, from the S6 to the Note 5 and onwards. In fact I just sold off my Note 9 couple of days ago. Gotta give credit where it's due, their UI has improved much and there is significantly less bloatware from those days, but yeah, that doesn't mean it's not annoying to have a duplicate set of apps from both Google and Samsung that can't be removed. You do also occasionally get apps running rogue in the background every once in a while sucking battery like there's no tomorrow, but that kinda comes with the Android system (I'll admit it happens in iOS too, but far less).

The new iPhone X range is definitely a most welcomed design change over the iPhone 8, so you're right about it looking like something from the jurassic age in a couple years time. But it still has it's charm and is definitely a good phone but may not make sense buying it now unless you snag it on the cheap or if you're already highly invested in Apple's ecosystem, which you're not. So if you are gonna try Apple, maybe the Xr or the current X makes more sense in the design area, but unfortunately they both don't make sense in the financial area

Anyways, loads of options at RM2k plus. Take your time and shop around

If I uninstall the contacts default app, will it affect anything? I just realise it can be deleted.

This post has been edited by annoymous1234: Sep 23 2018, 06:27 PM

i guess one way to find out is when iPhone XR able to be hands-on personally

exactly! there's no other alternatives....that's what im disappointed with android nowadays. sure they offer bang for buck in terms of spec-perf-camera-batt with each iteration. but they all suffer from one same glaring issue. the software department. if i'd still want to keep on using android, then it would be nokia or android one or when Google Pixel decides to expand their availability to MY. no more oneplus for me.

this shit right there triggers my inner autism. i don't get why OEMs comes up with this decision. well at one point google does it too, thankfully they decides shut down inbox and shift their resources to gmail instead. and yes, i find that off-screen time is underrate by average users. i mean that's the sole thing that keeps you away from charging your phone overnight to the extend of damaging the longevity of battery health. coupled that with habit of not heavily reliant on phones during day-to-day usage. yes i do appreciate device that does not suffer from battery drain

speaking of financial area, i find revised iPhone 7 pricing is quite tempting. i mean its still on par with current 2k flagship/midrange phones. with 3 more years of support which i think no android offers that. in short, still a good all-rounder phone without hurting bank account much . but perhaps on certain perspective the two years behind SoC and 32GB/2GB might seem to be the only obvious disadvantages.

sigh, sometimes i wished nexus still lives on

True, haha.. Anyways, yeah, the 7 is still a capable phone too except you don't get wireless charging on it since it's made of aluminum and not glass - but because it's not made of glass, it's less fragile which is good. And frankly there's not much difference in performance between the 7 and 8, so yes, that is a good choice still. Just the design though...

Haha.. yeah, pure Android on flagship grade hardware.. that's what we're missing... would be nice to have the Pixels here officially...

Hello may I know, anyone of you happen to have problem after ios 12 update for portrait mode camera? My camera color no so great

Are you experiencing this?

http://www.iphonehacks.com/2018/09/iphone-...ues-ios-12.html