It doesn't matter what brand, refillable or not, cheap or expensive, all cannot last more than 3 years, changed so many times, what is causing the car battery die so fast?

because newer cars comes with those fancy electronics

Check alternator, cap ayam tak cukup power.

Check alternator, cap ayam tak cukup power.

Heat in engine bay.

Those german cars where battery is located in the boot, can last 5-7 yrs I heard.

mine average last 1 year++ only

lol not sure why

but the SC say its normal

cheap car maybe

Push start button lo

7 years on the first one that came with the car, the second unit bought outside goin strong still after 4 years. But then again a Delco DIN100 isnt exactly cheap.

U forgot turn light off?

because it was kept charging thus reducing the battery lifespan. it is not like smartphone like you use it when it was not charging.
car should be install with intelligent circuit where it shouldn't be charge the battery all the time when the engine is running, but i guess it will be very expensive/complicated to do so.

Heat from engine bay will shorten the lifespan of any battery.

Why every parts of the car is improving but left out the pretty important 1? Killing a battery a year or 2 make the car brand bad. And why we cannot use other types of battery like those in the phone, I rather pay more for a much lasting solution than those fail me during critical moments.

This post has been edited by narf03: Nov 22 2017, 10:12 PM

Mine lasted 5 yrs.

Wah that's the longest.

well lithium is not cheap and prone to failure as well.
what will happen if you bought a lithium battery for small car that cost more than rm1000 and you get yourself a lemon unit (fail less than 2 years, doubt manufacturer will give you long warranty),at least with lead acid battery, we know that it will lasts less than 2years (if got more than that consider bonus) but paid for it very cheap

How to check when the battery is low and may need to change soon?

designed to fail.

battery environment is very hot, now they use so called dry gel, it's the same shit, just that u CANT REFILL IT

I use my Bosch battery can use quite long. So far still good after 5 years.

want last long? get the marine battery/solar battery

well, the price is

my first battery that came with the car lasted 5 years. wet battery though. once a month have to check the water level

but the battery water cheaper than spritzer so no complain

now i use no maintenance the best can last 18 months

weak 30% pusat servis suruh tukar.
untung .

This post has been edited by ikankering: Nov 22 2017, 10:52 PM

To me, the base battery quality we have here is bad, couple with the hot temperature, hence the lifetime is lessen.

Batteries in US, in general last about 3-5 easily. One to One replacement could go up to 2-3 year, and there after prorated till warranty period

This post has been edited by VeeJay: Nov 22 2017, 10:55 PM

I believe it is bcoz we always stuck in jam and short distance driving. Car rpm kept too low making alternator unable to charge the battery at optimum level. Auto gearbox creep forward function which hardly require u to press the accelerator unlike manual gearbox cars. From wat i understand, lead acid batteries should be kept as close to 100% capacity as possible for longer lifespan.

Plus these days cars idle at ~650rpm compare to older cars in the name of emission control, compare to older gen cars that idle at 900rpm.

Japanese cars must compare to japanese cars. Cannot compare with conti. Conti car batteries alot bigger. DIN100 is fairly common and freaking expensive compare to a typical 55d23l in a camry

1. Heat kills battery
2. Drive very short distance " daily ", thus not enough time to recharge
3. Did not maintain the battery water level.

I have seen some guy went till the max of preserving the battery by relocating it to the trunk/spare tyre storage.

Personally....if you had time. get a battery charger kit and do charge it frequently, it should extend its life

the last 3 car batteries i used are maintenance free, daily travel min 30 km except saturday and sunday, always respect the minimum road speed limit. seldom stuck into any jams. yet the battery die fast.

Minimum speed limit?? Ada ka such thing in msia?? Indon i know they hv.
Try this though, before you fire up the engine everyday, turn off all electronics first including air cond, auto headlamp , welcome lights and car audio.
I even hv a habit of switching off my air cond 200m before reaching my home and turn off engine.
So far my MF batteries can last me 4 years.Jap engine.

1. maintenance free or normal acid battery all are same.
to perlong their life span, you NEED to take them out and charge them full (a day or two) with battery charger, do it on monthly basic.

2. if possible, try not use any electronic or charge your phone in car.

3. you might switch to higher voltage battery, (newer car came with overload protection, not worry fry circult, just burn main fues). if the battery level drop below 90% thats you will not able to start the car, this is the stupit tech ever invented.

Roughly 3years also.

now I use car battery with capacitor, I hope it can last long

There is even a saying that young guys car battery Kong cepat-er.
Because we used more battery power.

Why ?
Because always go out at night use headlights.
Compare to old fag who stay at home they use less

I dont think thats the main reason

This post has been edited by mmusang: Nov 23 2017, 12:32 AM

Alot things can't last long

Got cheap battery charger on sales ke. Cheap n easy n simple one. Lazada got?

My very old Merc Benz battery, which also is Merc brand, last forever, but of course that car is mostly mechanical.

If last so long battery shop/kompeni kenot make bisnis...kasi chance laaa....aigoo...

Phone battery can last 3years?

Its true. Same goes with all Merc which they put the battery with a thick wall seperate the heat to the battery.

Most Japanese design put battery next to the engine.

Plus why conti car battery so expensive. At least 700 it's because it's a bigger longer and better battery.

If design like BMW put at the boot. It will last ages. But to change one I think about 1.8k but it will last 5 to 7 years.

Btw. For normal Japanese engine. 2 years is good already

Because you keep charger by your phone.

Invest in a maintance charger.
And diy a heat shield for the battery

Why not you try getting a BMW to see if the battery can last longer

because it mean to be. see how far tech goes. batteries always been very limited. its a conspiracy i tell you!

new cars already doing this automatically inclusive mine which is about 10 years old
they will cut all other power while pushing all power to starter.

u have no idea how much problems BMW have and u cant go to random workshop, only ppl whos so rich and have somebody taking care of your car will consider owning it.

\why not get a new one? ITs 5 years warranty with service. All you need is to pay for the installments.

Trouble free.

My MF battery can last 3 years+

the type of battery use in phone not safe lah

very easy to go boom if accident

new city n jazz hybrid battery using that battery type

The reason Japanese sells more car was because it cannot last long

Same

Factory supply last 8 years, recently changed to DIN100 Varta Blue. - Rear battery
My other car use Panasonic DIN66 price around RM500 last 4++ years. You can get cheaper Century at RM200++ but yeah last only 1 year. - Front battery

Mind both car above at stock condition. My peers driving same car with 'ah beng' mentality add boom boom pow aftermarket gadget (speaker, HID, door step with light etc) last half from my battery life span.

mine is at 2 years plus now..

bought the cheap car battery charger from Lazada.

been charging it once a month twice now..we'll see if that will prolong the battery life

get tesla la..no problem after tis

last time approached by a guy selling thing which he claims can slow down the crystallization process
so basically it doubles the battery's life
400+ IIRC
any1 using such thing? really work?

not to forget....the total crank you did in a day too.

another possibility is the inferior quality of the battery.

500-800 for a decent Din100 battery still beats the rm2800 they charging at the authorized service centre. Just need someone to reset the charging when you changed your batt. I did mine myself with a Foxwell scanning tool. Good investment.

LOL, myth.

i remember when i was a kid,battery waranty up to 2 years,now max only 1 year,so maybe they cut off production cost..

Lol am i reading this? Why not push the car to save battery.
The heat kill the battery la , those battery not in engine compartment will last long 4-7years. One of my previous car lasted 7 years and i never switched off AC and radio.

try use this... maybe can help

Japanese car owner. Can't blame him. He hear say. So he won't jump in.

Anyhow those who owns one and experience it will know the truth.

Btw. Japanese cars are treated as transport not for driving pleasure. Unfortunately.

use good brand can last longer

normally dry battery not that last, better use water / liquid type. if u take care and always check battery level, mine up to 4~5 years

i hear few people say that charging your battery once a month can prolong battery life.

Can we use something like this to charge once in awhile?

https://www.lazada.com.my/amgo-jump-start-c...0.46b5169Xopcnp

i use maintenance free battery
now 5 years and still stronk

oh wait, better i go check the voltage lol

https://www.lazada.com.my/amgo-jump-start-c...0.46b5169Xopcnp

can use this right?

Wrong.

my current udm & ex W124 all using DIN66 cost me around RM280++ only lah. if gatal want to use DIN100 only around rm500++

can't remember when was the last time I changed em. 2013/2012 maybe?

I owned both . if u lazy / don't have capability to maintain it pls don't own any car

more or less the same when it comes to maintenance.

btw jap cars are ok if you need to drive from point A to B.

spirited driving? udm anytime

Mine 3.5 years

again, wrong.

if u are lazy/clueless/lazy to read/financially not strong please stay away from conti.

better stick to public transport/uber/grab/obike. you won't have any headache thinking why the battery failed when u need to drive your car at critical moments.

I am impressed boss

how was your driving pattern? any sound system installed?

that pana din66L is around RM300++ last two years. how come you buy so expensive one?

i m still using my yuasa wet battery on my current udm. more than 4-5 years already

problem with these fellas who keeping hear rumors about this and that but missing the experiences of owning it and driving it.



This post has been edited by JimbeamofNRT: Nov 23 2017, 02:18 PM

2.5 years change battery at least rm200
3 years tukar tayar at least rm800 4 tayar
3 years major service at least rm600
3.5 years tukar absorber at least rm400 for all 4
3.5 years tukar brake pad at least rm250 for front
Need to renew road tax some more

What else

Got car realy pening one by one need to change

People should be educated on the total cost if ownership of a car. Not just know about monthly installment only.

Like that they become unaware and for example will use the botak tayar until can see threads the will potentially kill someone

This post has been edited by maxizanc: Nov 23 2017, 02:29 PM

Should teach this subject in secondary school form 5/university

majority people know how to drive and pay monthly only

insurance time also need to do personal loan.wtf?

maintenance time ( buy tyres, those stuff not included in the 5 years maintenance free programme ) die die need to use cc. then pay minimum payment. create more hutang.

I agree with you on tyre thread issues. some of them don't even care one lah

Or maybe refuse to read car manual book

This post has been edited by maxizanc: Nov 23 2017, 02:54 PM

+1

nowadays can even download the maintenance manual and the price too.

like what proton and perodua do lah, for example

http://www.proton-edar.com.my/en/After%20S...ice%20Menu.aspx

http://www.perodua.com.my/service-maintena...alza-at-2014/20


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if lazy then cannot do anything lah

lol, how many bmw workshop in the country ? trouble free driving it back to the bmw workshop ?

1000% agree with you. It's a transport. But you want pleasure. Try BMW. I just love how it handles. Especially e90 325i.

My w203 just can't get that feel.

Sorry bro. Sounds like you just need a car to transport you. You don't really want a pleasure in driving. So best you stick with the Toyota. Less problem for you.

If you really want a beemer or a Merc. You don't care how many service center. You just want to drive. If it break down. You will sent it for repair. It's like having kids. But in a different way. Thats what you call i love my car.

Next time try a 330e in the showroom. Don't bother about the price just drive it. You will feel the difference. Unless a car to you must follow Toyota criteria. Then forget it.

If a true petrol head would own. He would own a Alfa Romeo. That's a true man's car. It's no joke.

True. Go Ingress just for normal service for the sake of official stamping at service booklet.


Normal 70% + rage style 30%. Nope, all standard Gaban bro.

The panasonic I bought urgently at Eneos OU. I know its on the high side but no choice, car flat at office basement.

Not prone to failure. Prone to FIRE. That is why there is no such battery for combustion cars yet. But there are for motorcycles. But a basic kapchai unit cost more than RM300.

Different type of battery. Those car using AGM battery which cost 4-5x the normal battery.

yes yes there is one in the future unlimited uses, wait 1 day use nuclear power ok?

whoa. eneos OU. still open?

they used to be good. then somehow getting worse...

Energy in energy out
Heat up heat down
Vibration here and there
All will cause micro damage which leads to any major damage and what not.

Just like rubber band
Once expand many time will it goes back to original size?

Seriously....
Some ppl never see battery lasts for more than 3-4 years???.....