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post Apr 27 2007, 03:34 PM

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my dad's plannin to get the W203 C200K..
any pros/cons of tis car?
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post Apr 27 2007, 03:50 PM

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Well i cant really provide any Pro nor Cons u asked for....
But.. seriously dont buy it now. The new C-Class W204 will be launched somewhere in June and CKD units will be available in December.

Once it is launched, W203 price will surely drop, no matter new or used car.
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post Apr 27 2007, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(Roland San @ Apr 27 2007, 02:39 PM)
Issues with the W210 that I know of:

1) Certain V6 engines have the harmonic balancer problem. There was a recall/service campaign bulletin about harmonic balancer failures and a replacement schedule. Affected cars include W210s from '98 - '01 with 112 and 113 engines. Which equates to a heck of a lot of cars. Some cars outside that range also were affected. But basically, a harmonic balancer failure while the car is in motion is a very expensive problem.

2) Blower motor regulator for the A/C tends to fail after a while too. Apparently this affects the earlier batch of W210s, and in this country, it's not a good thing.

3) Rear electric window regulator failures x100000. The palstic gears get mashed up and the window falls into the well. Have to replace the entire assembly.

4) Suspension ball joints wear out at an alarming rate, especially on the Avantgarde spec with the lowered ride. Looking at maybe 50k too, but you may be able to live with the lower tolerance if you drive sloooowwwlly and carefully. In our pothole country, good luck.

5) Mass air filters/ 02 sensors have to be replaced at maybe every 50k.

6) Talking about sensors, there are a lot of warning lights that pop up. You'd find that many have the letters ABS/ESP/BAS and such. Problem is the brake light switch, and if not, then the actual accelerometer at the wheels.

7) Rust. Anti-corrosion wasn't somethign MB took a lot of care of during the W210 era. Always check the car super thoroughly for rust. Especially, look at the wheel wells, and around the suspension components.

8) The Infamous Steering Wheel Squeak. Quite possibly the most annoying issue possible.

9) At every 100k, you'd be thinking of a piston ring replacement, and motor mounts.

10) At 150k, you'd want new rotors too, cos new pads won't stop the brake squeal.

11) Transmission: worry about this. At 150k, some other Mercs would be begging for a tranny overhaul.

12) Others: wheel bearings, cats, deterioration of internal plastic parts, failure of electric seat motors, air cond vent vanes breaking, rubber button coating melting into a sticky mush, interior light failure and yeah, rear brake lights burning out and melting out the brake light housing.

While many of the problems above are faced by many W210 owners, not all affect them. My regular merc mechanic says that he sees a lot of the above in W210s, there are some particularly problem-free ones. Ultimately, it also does depend on how spirited/careless the previous drivers have been.

However, you can't discount the fact that this is a premium auto, and carries premium features, which upon failure, demands a premium bill. The W210 came in a time when really complex electronics were first making their way into regular passenger cars. So if you do decide to get one, jus tbe aware of the costs involved.

Also, W210s are kinda underpowered and severely wanting for a 6th gear....

Edit: this post was't actually targeted at the person quoted, more towards those thinking of owning a W210.
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ha, my father's 10year-old w210, consider really low milage, 140k km only.
i guess this is a weekend car for the previous "Datok" owner.

i have some other friends, buying Recon oversea w210, mostly the 00' facelift version, e200 kompressor.
1 complaint that the air-con system is different with those MB in malaysia, so he need to order parts oversea, and this cause him a big trouble.

actually i just wanna have some discussion abt w210, not asking for buying guide. laugh.gif
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post Apr 28 2007, 12:05 AM

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i don't know much about Mercedes.. but here's a pic of my neighbors'.. At first I thought that Naza had open new branch in our neighborhood.. if i'm not mistaken.. from left is CLK, C Class, S Class & E Class..
(they usually move the cars out of the porch like this when they have the maid to clean up the porch... usually on Monday or Thursday morning... eh, do I sounds like a stalker?)

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captured using hp camera.. a bit shaky though..

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post Apr 28 2007, 12:43 AM

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wah..so many mercs.. but all of them have newer models out already
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post Apr 28 2007, 01:42 AM

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no wonder all plat no are like 2 or 3 years back.. i'll kill myself if they bought another merc
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post Apr 28 2007, 01:45 AM

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QUOTE(hapeace @ Apr 28 2007, 12:05 AM)
i don't know much about Mercedes.. but here's a pic of my neighbors'.. At first I thought that Naza had open new branch in our neighborhood.. if i'm not mistaken.. from left is CLK, C Class, S Class & E Class..
(they usually move the cars out of the porch like this when they have the maid to clean up the porch... usually on Monday or Thursday morning... eh, do I sounds like a stalker?)

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captured using hp camera.. a bit shaky though..
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Rich, really rich, a collection of mercs, my dad only owned a c class sweat.gif
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post Apr 28 2007, 01:46 AM

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QUOTE(hapeace @ Apr 28 2007, 12:05 AM)
i don't know much about Mercedes.. but here's a pic of my neighbors'.. At first I thought that Naza had open new branch in our neighborhood.. if i'm not mistaken.. from left is CLK, C Class, S Class & E Class..
(they usually move the cars out of the porch like this when they have the maid to clean up the porch... usually on Monday or Thursday morning... eh, do I sounds like a stalker?)

user posted image

captured using hp camera.. a bit shaky though..
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Whoa , i can stand up on the CLK and dunk at the post ! laugh.gif laugh.gif tongue.gif
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post Apr 28 2007, 02:04 AM

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house in Shah Alam?

thats cool stuff but i hav a fren who drives a E46 328Ci supercharged. his elder bro drives a JCW Mini Cooper.

His dad has a CLS 55AMG, Ferrari 360, Ferrari 278 GTB (or something like that...), Range Rover, 996 Porsche 911, another older 911.

The Range Rover is the daily ride and its on 22inch rims drool.gif

Da maid has a car too laugh.gif a Tiara.
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post Apr 28 2007, 02:33 AM

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whoa..crazy fren! cls 55..cost 1mil+.. others veli expensive too..ahaha maid got a cheap car as well.. lucky u dun tell me the maid drives a beemer or something doh.gif
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QUOTE(hapeace @ Apr 28 2007, 12:05 AM)
i don't know much about Mercedes.. but here's a pic of my neighbors'.. At first I thought that Naza had open new branch in our neighborhood.. if i'm not mistaken.. from left is CLK, C Class, S Class & E Class..
(they usually move the cars out of the porch like this when they have the maid to clean up the porch... usually on Monday or Thursday morning... eh, do I sounds like a stalker?)

user posted image

captured using hp camera.. a bit shaky though..
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i dont think even germans own that many LOL
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QUOTE(Nothing Better To Do @ Apr 28 2007, 02:39 AM)
i dont think even germans own that many LOL
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i noe other people have more outrageous collection like ferrari or porsche..
but this guy is not even a Datuk! (erm, i think so la..) maybe we should have IRB to check on them? hahahah
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QUOTE(phas3r @ Apr 28 2007, 02:33 AM)
whoa..crazy fren! cls 55..cost 1mil+.. others veli expensive too..ahaha maid got a cheap car as well.. lucky u dun tell me the maid drives a beemer or something doh.gif
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oopss...sorry one maid actually drives a Kia Rio for marketing. da other maid drives a Tiara. sorry for da confusion!

well i dun care if the rich ppl own lots of cars as they have nothing to do wif us. BUT i expect those in public office to always come CLEAN wif watever they own cos they are responsible for our government and our monies as well.
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QUOTE(xtracooljustin @ Apr 28 2007, 02:04 AM)
house in Shah Alam?

thats cool stuff but i hav a fren who drives a E46 328Ci supercharged. his elder bro drives a  JCW Mini Cooper.

His dad has a CLS 55AMG, Ferrari 360, Ferrari 278 GTB (or something like that...), Range Rover, 996 Porsche 911, another older 911.

The Range Rover is the daily ride and its on 22inch rims  drool.gif

Da maid has a car too  laugh.gif a Tiara.
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post May 3 2007, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(xtracooljustin @ Apr 26 2007, 02:49 AM)
the SLC is actually a SL wif a metal roof. Its to cater to the market of ppl who wants a more engaging car bcos wif the megal roof, the chassis is much tighter and more rigid thus has better handling.

The later generations SL use soft tops except the R230 which came wif a SLK like foldable metal roof.

Indeed its a rare car. I've seen it only a couple of times in KL and once in Singapore, in fact it was last weekend when i drove there.

For that particular generation of Mercedes, I love the SEC. Another big coupe, a strict 2+2 where as the SL(C) is a 2 seater wif a bench behind that is good for anybody that's below 4 feet tall..  nod.gif

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A little bit of trivia, the SEC was replaced wif the S Class coupe (that look like a damn tank). That has been replaced wif the CL class. And they've just replaced the CL class.

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there is an SEC parked in my house....i'll take pictures and upload it.....but i still like the SL/SLCs......I still see my dad's old car around, and i think i know where the guy stays....very young couple(about early 30s).....if i have the money, i'll ask if he is willing to sell back the car to my family....i really liked the car....

I'm sure if u've seen it in KL, one of it is the one i'm talking about...Ferarri red 380SLC....WBB 57XX.....he didn't even change the number plate....that number plate was used since my dad was driving it...

BTW, my family have been a supporter of merc......had all kinds of merc...the latest being the new S-class......but more than half of the merc are older generations....hehehe.....we've had some newer ones, but used for 3-4 years, sold of already...dunno y.....

p.s. I dunno what codes are the cars eg. w123, w124..heheh...i'll learn it up someday....

i'll take pics some time.......and upload them here....

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post May 3 2007, 01:20 PM

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my dad use 126.. with 7MGTE inside...

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post May 3 2007, 01:40 PM

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lol.. what engine? nissan?

now my mercs give me problem.. 3 power window cannot use anymore.. hahahaha...
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QUOTE(wantutrifor5 @ May 3 2007, 01:40 PM)
lol.. what engine? nissan?

now my mercs give me problem.. 3 power window cannot use anymore.. hahahaha...
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toyota.

this thread needs moar pics.

*goes searching for pics
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post May 3 2007, 05:13 PM

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Wow, didnt know there's a MErcedes-Benz thread here in LYN. Well, i've always wanted to get myself a used W202 C280 but cant seem to get hold of one unit ard Klang Valley from private owners or used car dealers.

Currently, my dad drives a W124 230E year 1986 with 5-speed manual tranny & another 190E. I just loved its handling compared to my E30 318i but usually i'll take my Camry as my daily ride for my job. Sometimes during certain months, it'll be a hole for my bank account to maintain those continentals rides.

Hehehehe....... i've been eyeing on my customer's 230CE which belongs to her wife. He told me wanna sell it off to whom would like to maintain the current beauty of the car. AFAIK, it's kinda rare to get those 230CE whereas 300CE got tons of it in the market now. wink.gif
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post May 3 2007, 07:49 PM

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1986? thats like the 1st year of the w124 meh~ damn old..got pics? manual? nice!.. lokgotz..ur house got new s class ??.. wah..2 users here oredi got a new s class..rich rich

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