QUOTE(bonjour966 @ Nov 14 2017, 04:01 PM)
Greetings All Sifus,
As subject just done a second interview in the morning and sent a note to hiring manager.
Almost immediately received a reply saying: -
Dear XXX,
Thank you for your note and we also find our conversation interesting and thought-provoking.
And he end the mail informing will be in contact in one week.
What is he referring to for the word"thought provoking" and not sure if this is a positive sign? OR rather i over-analyse the situation...
Yes as someone mentioned "thought provoking" means you gave them points to ponder. It could be an opinion you said about the company or its products/ services etc.
Also, yes don't over analyse. Some words may have been said as courtesy so just take it with a pinch of salt (don't take it seriously).
QUOTE(Zamorin1 @ Nov 15 2017, 04:46 AM)
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If I were you, I would not send the thank you note.
As an interviewer, I am not interested in how polite you are or what. In fact, sending me a thank you note only tells me that you are pretty desperate. I mean I should be the one who is thanking you for making the special trip all the way to the company and risking not getting the job therefore making a fruitless trip. So if you are sending me a thank you note what does this tell me. That something went wrong in your current company and that you are desperate to leave. And also that you are not very capable and have to rely on a thank you note to gain my favor.
If you really want to impress your interviewer, you should maintain cool. In other words, let the interviewer know that you are interested in the position but then at the same time also give the interviewer the impression that not getting the job is not going to affect you in anyway. You should only try to impress the interviewer during the interview. What happens after the interview is that maybe you could probably clarify the wrong things that you perhaps said in the interview. But then you should not be agressively pushing the interviewer after that.
The only person you should sound desperate to is to your job agent. Leave the desperateness to your job agent. Be very subtle so as not to expose yourself. Between the person who send me the thank you note and the person who did not send me the thank you note, I would choose the person who did not send me the thank you note.
The purpose of the interview is to identify the best candidate. So you only need to woo the interviewer about what you can contribute. Other things would be just a waste of time and may even be detrimental. You do not want to leave a sour taste with the interviewer right?
Both agree and disagree with you here. Having interviewed many people, generally I won't bother wanting to receive any "thank you note" coz it's personally a bother. I have loads of emails to read and reply each day and imagine if there were 20 candidates and I receive 20 emails, I'll be a little annoyed.
Having said that though, receiving a thank you note is also a sign of courtesy and that this person cares about the job. I don't view it as "desperation". Everyone who comes in for interview, wants the job. It's a matter of them showing appreciation of YOUR busy time to meet them. So I do take it positively, although it may be a bother
QUOTE(bonjour966 @ Nov 15 2017, 08:34 AM)
Ok good notes there.
Just to add on to your not sending thank you note thing. I have the experience to hire and to interview potential candidates in previous and current company, to a scenario that i have 2 very strong candidates that is top of my list and gave me hard time to decide.
Those two top contender has got the balance competency and exact what we looking for. Moving forward, the offer has eventually give to the one who present himself better AFTER the interview- thank you note,right time to call, quick in answering our further doubts and answer perfectly!
Moral of the story? You decide...
That is apparent the reason i insist to send a quick thank you note within 24/48 hours after our chat.
Yes, I'll agree on this. Given the same choice, I'll probably choose the one who sent a thank you note as it shows he/ she cares more about it. A person who cares more, usually shows better enthusiasm which MAY lead to better performance.
It may be a speculation, assumptions blablabla but nothing wrong with selecting the one who wants it more.
QUOTE(Zamorin1 @ Nov 15 2017, 01:32 PM)
It could also just mean courtesy on the interviewer part. Since you made the effort to send me a thank you letter, I should reply in kind right? But then who knows what the interviewer is thinking? I mean after all as an interviewer, normally, I should show that I am going to entertain further concerns that you have and replying in kind only shows that. But then, what I would want to hear from you if say I am the interviewer is more clarification or say things you said something wrong during the interview and perhaps want to elaborate more with good reason. But then you do not want to overdo this as well by overemphasizing on your strength in a seperate letter because all those things should be done in the interview itself. I mean you should appear to be firm. The only place you should try to impress the interviewer is at the interview itself. It's a minus once you have to send an email to defend yourself because it shows that you are desperate unless you want to highlight something but of course it should be at one's discretion.
A Thank you note is totally pointless because it adds nothing to my perception of the candidate. In fact, it would be a minus because it shows that you are doing worthless things just to gain my attention and there is a very strong likelihood as well that you are going to do the same thing when you join the company. Remember, I am hiring you to do task. I am not hiring you to do meaningless things like write thank you note. I do not want to hear and see you doing things that are not related to the task that I have given you. In fact, the fact that you actually wrote a thank you letter may even make me think that you may even backstab me in the future if say things goes wrong.The thing is, I should be showing thanks that you are wiling to travel all the way to the company and that there is a possibility that you may not even be employed.
So you will be making a wasted trip. That is why sometimes interviewers are even obligated to serve you with say drinks if you come all the way to the interview since they want to make you comfortable and also as a way to thank the interviewer.
Well you're entitled to your opinion. And it's thinking too much about backstabbing and whatnot when this is just a thank-you note we're talking about lol. You're calling these people hypocrites from your description, but here's the thing - don't judge them based on a thank you letter. Why get so worked up over a simple email/ note? Just dismiss it. You don't have to reply if you don't want to.
And, don't forget you have YET to hire this person so you can't say you're hiring him/ her to do a meaningless task. It's not a task. You have YET to hire him/ her so sending the thank you note is at HIS/ HER time of disposal and not the company's.
Lastly, there is NEVER such a thing as a "WASTED TRIP". Going for interviews is also a way to generate experience and find out more about a company. They are meaningful. The more you attend, the better you get at it. One may stumble in the first few interviews but will be able to express himself/ herself more in subsequent interviews.
Making mistakes, failing, falling down - they are all part of human. Nobody is perfect, especially the people working IN the company.
Even as an experienced person, I sometimes make mistakes at work too. I acknowledge it, make amends and my Management understands. However, the error shall not be repeated again as you're supposed to learn from it.
QUOTE(bonjour966 @ Nov 15 2017, 02:30 PM)
ah i see, i actually thought " provoking" is referring to negativity....
Don't worry, even if an interview didn't go well, generally interviewers do not comment negatively.
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