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Equilibrium777
post Apr 21 2007, 12:26 PM

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what is the boiling technique?
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post Apr 21 2007, 02:30 PM

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apparently it's supposed to get out all the dirt from the windings (especially round wound strings). But that's all theory. I don't even bother. tongue.gif Besides, guitarists shouldn't complain. Strings are cheap laugh.gif . So just change them.
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post Apr 21 2007, 04:22 PM

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you mean you dump the string in hot boiling water?!?!?!?!?!?!

well if you play often you change strings like twice a month. . . which amounts to the same for a bassist who change like 3 months once right?

i change once a month. . . so yea. . . depending on how often i play lolz
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post Apr 21 2007, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(nerd @ Apr 21 2007, 11:34 AM)
there was period I was lazy to cut off my guitar's excess string, making it look like 'hair'.

after that thing nearly went into my eye (thank God for specs) during a mini-gig while I was moving about, I straight away made it a practice to trim off excess strings. tongue.gif
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tsk tsk, who ask you not to trim
be like me brows.gif been trimming my strings since i started. see? im neat lol

anyway
worse thing happened was when my first time restringing my guitar bout a year ago
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i was winding the string without checking the tension, so i went on winding n wondering when to stop.
when i decided to stop n i plucked, the string snapped doh.gif
and it was a brand new pack o strings!!!!!! such a waste =/
was stuck with no 1st string till i went guitar collection to get a 1st string from another brand
lol

QUOTE(Equilibrium777 @ Apr 21 2007, 04:22 PM)
you mean you dump the string in hot boiling water?!?!?!?!?!?!

well if you play often you change strings like twice a month. . . which amounts  to the same for a bassist who change like 3 months once right?

i change once a month. . .  so yea. . . depending on how often i play lolz
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sounds like how hendrix tech stretched the strings , by boiling it lol [read it somewhere nt sure how true is this tho]

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post Apr 21 2007, 08:13 PM

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so, many "incidents" during re-string.here's my share of story, my 1E broke and as usual i change it, what happen is, whenever i am close to the correct tune, it broke, since the new string broke,i change again lo...what to do, lucky i have 5 spare 1E strings. but, the mysterious thing is that i broke all 5 spare 1E strings... all of them are kind of branded strings also,from yamaha and gibsons. since i need the string fixed quickly,i go to the nearest book store and buy a couple 1E strings that cost rm0.50 each. and guess what, it didnt break...

that's my encouter during re-string.
my encounter while playing... there was once when i demonstrate some noisy songs to my frens using kapok. guess what... the string didnt burst,but the bridge did.... the guitar bridge brokeout from the body and went swinging around the guitar, lucky didnt hit anyone.

for those who havent share,have fun sharing~
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post Apr 21 2007, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(Equilibrium777 @ Apr 21 2007, 09:22 AM)
you mean you dump the string in hot boiling water?!?!?!?!?!?!

well if you play often you change strings like twice a month. . . which amounts  to the same for a bassist who change like 3 months once right?

i change once a month. . .  so yea. . . depending on how often i play lolz
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well yes, u dump them in boiling water and cook them for about an hour or so. Or at least thats what i read somewhere. Supposedly they will sound brighter after that. About stretching strings, i don't think 100°C is enough to cause any form of stretching (or recrystallisation). Usually happens at about 300-500°C if i remember correctly. Maybe if you fry your strings in oil (at about 300°C when it's smoking hot) then maybe. But i take no responsibility for your actions laugh.gif . And I don't think your wife/mother/etc. will be very happy if you smoke up the whole kitchen trying to fry your strings.

A bassist who changes his strings once in 3 months is one who is not endorsed and has to pay for the strings himself. Otherwise, the period in which the strings stay bright doesn't really differ from guitar strings. Close to about 2 or 3 weeks. Well, at least that's how long the d'addarios that i use last.
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post Apr 21 2007, 08:50 PM

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daddarios i used last time, the brightness only lasted a week on my electric
by the 2nd week its all black alr, guess i sweat too much
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QUOTE(MetalZone @ Apr 20 2007, 02:19 PM)
wow quite ganas also are u ppl experiences...
my worst was mid last year when my band was practicing for a youth event... one of the last few practices. there was one part where u know, the musicians will stop totally for while (leaving just the vocals) then bang back in on the 1st beat... i jumped, and landed on time, but i hit the strings probably at the wrong angle, took out the high E string in the process and cut my thumb. ouch. fortunately it was only during practice. I didn't dare try any more funny stuff since then... plus shortly after that, I got my RG1570... so more sayang guitar di hahhaa.

Occationally I too poke my fingers on the ends of the strings at the tuners... then I started restringing with the ball end into the tuners... no more accidents. and d'addario coloured ball ends FTW! biggrin.gif

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how do you restring it with the ball end at the tuners ?

QUOTE(LovesReborn @ Apr 21 2007, 08:13 PM)
so, many "incidents" during re-string.here's my share of story, my 1E broke and as usual i change it, what happen is, whenever i am close to the correct tune, it broke, since the new string broke,i change again lo...what to do, lucky i have 5 spare 1E strings. but, the mysterious thing is that i broke all 5 spare 1E strings... all of them are kind of branded strings also,from yamaha and gibsons. since i need the string fixed quickly,i go to the nearest book store and buy a couple 1E strings that cost rm0.50 each. and guess what, it didnt break...

that's my encouter during re-string.
my encounter while playing... there was once when i demonstrate some noisy songs to my frens using kapok. guess what... the string didnt burst,but the bridge did.... the guitar bridge brokeout from the body and went swinging around the guitar, lucky didnt hit anyone.

for those who havent share,have fun sharing~
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where can buy individual strings? ohmy.gif

QUOTE(sean392 @ Apr 21 2007, 08:50 PM)
daddarios i used last time, the brightness only lasted a week on my electric
by the 2nd week its all black alr, guess i sweat too much
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i sweat a lot too when i play but these elixir strings are tough. more than 1 month liao i think still shiny thumbup.gif

for me.... i restrung the wrong string doh.gif
took the B string and strung it to the high E. then had to take it out and string to the B, too short so i thought it wont stay in tune but surprisingly its working like normal rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 22 2007, 01:52 AM

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so far..i'm not guitar player but a drummer..but when i'm jamm with my friends..one of my friends tune his guitar until the string terputus and bleed my girlfriends hand..i so angry with him and throw my stick to him..but it's my fault becoz after thinking bout it back,it just unwanted accident..

MORAL VALUE : dont bring ur GF in ur jamming session
Equilibrium777
post Apr 22 2007, 12:39 PM

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wow. . . until whack your bandmate. . . ganas wei. . .

scary to jam with you xD
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post Apr 22 2007, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(SweetTooth @ Apr 22 2007, 01:21 AM)
how do you restring it with the ball end at the tuners ?
where can buy individual strings?  ohmy.gif
i sweat a lot too when i play but these elixir strings are tough. more than 1 month liao i think still shiny  thumbup.gif

for me.... i restrung the wrong string  doh.gif
took the B string and strung it to the high E. then had to take it out and string to the B, too short so i thought it wont stay in tune but surprisingly its working like normal  rolleyes.gif
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elixirs coated brows.gif the sound of mine was really bright till bout the 3rd month
6 month still abit shiny but sound got duller alr,
then i snapped it while playing, i went YARRRR STRUMMMMM
snap the ball end flew pretty far lol
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and why was your gf sitting so close to your guitarist? and not beside your drumkit? tongue.gif
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post Apr 22 2007, 02:23 PM

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hahaha zha dou brows.gif
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post Apr 22 2007, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(SweetTooth @ Apr 22 2007, 01:21 AM)

where can buy individual strings?  ohmy.gif
most of the guitar store will sell strings saparately and bundled, am i wrong? coz i bought most of the strings from my frens. but i am sure that i did buy individual strings in book store.
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guitar collection sells single daddario
bentley sells single ernie balls

not so sure bout the rest =/
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post Apr 23 2007, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(Equilibrium777 @ Apr 20 2007, 10:57 PM)
well you shouldn't do that. . . cause i remember a tech told me before that guitar strings are thicker/heavier at the ball point and should be put in the bridge. . .

especially floyd guitars. . . it is actually bad to restring the ball at the tuning peg section. . . it makes the tension on the strings uneven. . . you should cut the ball and string the ball part for the bridge. . . i remember a tech told me before. . .

any comments on that? cause i used to do that then he told me to not do that. . . it was at a gig i went when he was stringing. . .
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True that the strings are thicker ar the ball end coz they're wound up. I always pre-bend them and the wind them in. No probs for me. maybe it's bad for high gauges as it probably wont fit into the tuner properly. I'm using 9's anyway.

About the tension issue, how is it that the tension is uneven? plus its a locking tremolo... so once u locked it in... whatever happens past the locking nut is insignificant. (in fact i've heard of somebody's headstock breaking off past the locking nut and the strings still held their tune)

And another point is... Rich Harris, the supposed Masterpro at Ibanez guitars also strings his guitars this way. So if he does it... hahahah ok nvm...

but anyway, another way to string it in if you are worried about those issues above, is to string it with a longer gap past the ball end wound part before you start winding it in the tuners, so theres no more question about having the thicker end inside the tuners nor the tension thing.


Added on April 23, 2007, 12:48 am
QUOTE(SweetTooth @ Apr 22 2007, 01:21 AM)
how do you restring it with the ball end at the tuners ?
guitars with a floyd rose/double locking tremolo can do it.
the ball end at the tremolo side is useless coz the string is clamped down anyway, not held by the ball end.

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Equilibrium777
post Apr 23 2007, 01:35 AM

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hmm i guess if thats the case then its alright?

i forgotten which tech told me that lmao. . .

but anyway i guess its all the same lar xD


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post Apr 23 2007, 02:32 AM

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QUOTE(Equilibrium777 @ Apr 23 2007, 01:35 AM)
hmm i guess if thats the case then its alright?
well, imho its alright.
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Well the funniest thing that happened was when I just started Bass and it happend around 3-4 years back.

So I got my bass + amp + tuner + method book rclxms.gif

I thought that its wise to tune my bass first
So I attached the tuner (which picks up vibration) on the headstock
and started tuning to the bass standard tuning which is EADG

But at that time I knew nuts about the tunings and stuff... All I know is EADG (From the TABs In the Method Book)

And guess what? I read the TABs Upside Down.. doh.gif

You guessed it,
I tuned the strings Upside Down (GDAE) thumbup.gif

The E and A strings survived the extreme high tension, But when it was till the D string, I remembered that when I achieved a near perfect G (Just a step more towards A) the string just gave way and just sprang out violently shocking.gif

And worst still, I still did not realise my mistake and thought that I tuned it An Octave too high. So I tuned the E A and G string (D String snapped) down an octave sill in the wrong tuning (Still tuned upside down)

But there is no tension. rclxub.gif So I concluded that there is a problem with the bloody tuner. So I got my Rant Speech ready and marched back to the music shop the next day. vmad.gif

It all ended when I explained what happened to my current ex-teacher and he just blew out laughing his ass off (Literally)

Me < unsure.gif

And when he explained my mistake

I changed from hmm.gif to oops.gif

And because I "Brightened" his day, He gave me a new pack of D'addario free of charge and told me not to mess with anything until I know enough.


The moral of this true story is : Only mess with stuff if you know what you are doing sweat.gif



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QUOTE(PetroToxin @ Apr 23 2007, 10:21 PM)
Well the funniest thing that happened was when I just started Bass and it happend around 3-4 years back.

So I got my bass + amp + tuner + method book rclxms.gif

I thought that its wise to tune my bass first
So I attached the tuner (which picks up vibration) on the headstock
and started tuning to the bass standard tuning which is EADG

But at that time I knew nuts about the tunings and stuff... All I know is EADG (From the TABs In the Method Book)

And guess what? I read the TABs Upside Down..  doh.gif

You guessed it,
I tuned the strings Upside Down (GDAE) thumbup.gif

The E and A strings survived the extreme high tension, But when it was till the D string, I remembered that when I achieved a near perfect G (Just a step more towards A) the string just gave way and just sprang out violently shocking.gif   

And worst still, I still did not realise my mistake and thought that I tuned it An Octave too high. So I tuned the E A and G string (D String snapped) down an octave sill in the wrong tuning (Still tuned upside down)

But there is no tension. rclxub.gif So I concluded that there is a problem with the bloody tuner. So I got my Rant Speech ready and marched back to the music shop the next day. vmad.gif

It all ended when I explained what happened to my current ex-teacher and he just blew out laughing his ass off (Literally)

Me < unsure.gif

And when he explained my mistake

I changed from  hmm.gif to oops.gif

And because I "Brightened" his day, He gave me a new pack of D'addario free of charge and told me not to mess with anything until I know enough.
The moral of this true story is : Only mess with stuff if you know what you are doing sweat.gif
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wow
ur teacher is quite nice isnt he ?
haha biggrin.gif

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