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Skip Degree, straight To MBA, good or bad?
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joe_toye
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Nov 22 2017, 02:17 PM
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QUOTE(Protoculture @ Nov 21 2017, 10:33 PM) Let's cut to the chase. If you're 30 years of age and above, with relevant work experience AND minimum academic qualification such as recognised Diploma OR STPM with 2 Principles OR A-Levels OR STAM (maqbul - passed) OR Matriculation with 2.0 CGPA, then you're eligible to enroll to Masters' degree through APEL Admission as set by MQA. Generally APEL Centers as appointed by MQA are any Open University Malaysia OR Wawasan Open University learning centers all over Malaysia. APEL admission will required your to pass Aptitude Tests and also Porfolio requirement. Refer MQA for further details. Sorry to correct you. APEL allows the students entry to ANY university. It's just an approval/validation letter from MQA that allows the university to accept the applicant. OUM, Wawasan, AEU and all are the few Higher Educational Institutions that are allowed by MOHE/MQA to offer open and distance-learning modes in Malaysia.
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Protoculture
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Nov 22 2017, 07:06 PM
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QUOTE(joe_toye @ Nov 22 2017, 02:17 PM) Sorry to correct you. APEL allows the students entry to ANY university. It's just an approval/validation letter from MQA that allows the university to accept the applicant. OUM, Wawasan, AEU and all are the few Higher Educational Institutions that are allowed by MOHE/MQA to offer open and distance-learning modes in Malaysia. You're mistaken .... Never did in my previous statement ever referred APEL is strictly for WOU and OUM. I only stated that, QUOTE Generally APEL Centers as appointed by MQA are any Open University Malaysia OR Wawasan Open University learning centers all over Malaysia. We're talking about APEL Centers whereby APEL applicants must take their APEL Admission Test and submitted their APEL Portfolio. OUM / WOU Learning Centers are appointed by MQA to be APEL Centers. This post has been edited by Protoculture: Nov 22 2017, 07:06 PM
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joe_toye
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Nov 23 2017, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(Protoculture @ Nov 22 2017, 07:06 PM) You're mistaken .... Never did in my previous statement ever referred APEL is strictly for WOU and OUM. I only stated that, We're talking about APEL Centers whereby APEL applicants must take their APEL Admission Test and submitted their APEL Portfolio. OUM / WOU Learning Centers are appointed by MQA to be APEL Centers. Ah. Sorry - I still am confused of the difference between APEL and APEL©. The pilot centres are like you mentioned OUM and WOU but also included UiTM and INTI. But APEL© are test centres to enter directly into the degree programmes which are being offered by those 4 institutes, right? If an applicant wants to use his prior experience to join another institution besides the four listed, he has to apply directly to MQA and MQA assesses him? I have seen the APEL process but it never went through the external institutions. Sorry - would like to know more about this. The MQA officer i deal with didn't actually explain much about APEL ©
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Protoculture
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Nov 23 2017, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(joe_toye @ Nov 23 2017, 10:14 AM) Ah. Sorry - I still am confused of the difference between APEL and APEL©. The pilot centres are like you mentioned OUM and WOU but also included UiTM and INTI. But APEL© are test centres to enter directly into the degree programmes which are being offered by those 4 institutes, right? If an applicant wants to use his prior experience to join another institution besides the four listed, he has to apply directly to MQA and MQA assesses him? I have seen the APEL process but it never went through the external institutions. Sorry - would like to know more about this. The MQA officer i deal with didn't actually explain much about APEL © Actually APEL Test Centers appointed by MQA are OUM and WOU. UiTM is only for specific courses. Please refer: http://www2.mqa.gov.my/APEL/CheckDaftar.cfm
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eligible
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Nov 25 2017, 02:08 PM
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there's no shortcut in life my friend. whatever you do, do it step by step. That's all I can say.
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zstan
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Nov 27 2017, 08:11 AM
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You think MBA is easier than degree? How sure are you that you can pass the MBA without even graduating from a degree. Unless you go those degree mills then i no comment.
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Protoculture
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Dec 6 2017, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE(zstan @ Nov 27 2017, 08:11 AM) You think MBA is easier than degree? How sure are you that you can pass the MBA without even graduating from a degree. Unless you go those degree mills then i no comment. Those enrolling under APEL assessment do find taking Masters much harder as compared to those with basic degree background. But never underestimated the street smarts. They will strived two times more as compared to those with degrees, and likelier to be able to finish and achieve better grades as well.
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Leon||
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Dec 6 2017, 12:10 PM
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I been having 8 years of working experience which relate to specialist technology skillset in the market with holding diploma, currently staying in MNC company with professional title. In order to climb the corporate ladder, I plan to pursue my degree in open university and found this interesting thread. In my current situation, it's advise to go with degree or straight to MBA? Hope to get some feedback here especially from HR perspective. This post has been edited by Leon||: Dec 6 2017, 12:13 PM
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Buyalotforgaming
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Dec 7 2017, 10:52 PM
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QUOTE(Leon|| @ Dec 6 2017, 12:10 PM) I been having 8 years of working experience which relate to specialist technology skillset in the market with holding diploma, currently staying in MNC company with professional title. In order to climb the corporate ladder, I plan to pursue my degree in open university and found this interesting thread. In my current situation, it's advise to go with degree or straight to MBA? Hope to get some feedback here especially from HR perspective.  Do you have people working under you? Some MBA programs that require this. Having said that I would suggest doing the MBA since you already have 8 years of specialized knowledge. Not sure how much a Bachelor's would benefit you.
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Leon||
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Dec 7 2017, 11:01 PM
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QUOTE(Buyalotforgaming @ Dec 7 2017, 10:52 PM) Do you have people working under you? Some MBA programs that require this. Having said that I would suggest doing the MBA since you already have 8 years of specialized knowledge. Not sure how much a Bachelor's would benefit you. I do have people work under me. Earlier this week I was planning to do degree in WOU, hope it would help in progress my career as well my paycheck in future. Going to check and consider the MBA option as well.
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Leon||
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Dec 8 2017, 11:18 AM
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It seems the requirements without a degree you must be age 30 and above, I might consider to process with degree if that's the case
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Buyalotforgaming
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Dec 8 2017, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(Leon|| @ Dec 8 2017, 11:18 AM) It seems the requirements without a degree you must be age 30 and above, I might consider to process with degree if that's the case What kind of schools are you looking at?
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Leon||
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Dec 8 2017, 03:29 PM
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QUOTE(Buyalotforgaming @ Dec 8 2017, 03:24 PM) What kind of schools are you looking at? It will be online or minimal class, eyeing WOU for degree actually
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Buyalotforgaming
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Dec 9 2017, 02:19 AM
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QUOTE(Leon|| @ Dec 8 2017, 03:29 PM) It will be online or minimal class, eyeing WOU for degree actually With 8 years of working experience I would think your age would be somewhere close to 30? I am unsure of how far the degree will really bring you. The MBA would be a lot more useful.
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Leon||
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Dec 9 2017, 02:32 AM
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QUOTE(Buyalotforgaming @ Dec 9 2017, 02:19 AM) With 8 years of working experience I would think your age would be somewhere close to 30? I am unsure of how far the degree will really bring you. The MBA would be a lot more useful. 3 more yrs to 30, started my career in very early stage with part time diploma This post has been edited by Leon||: Dec 9 2017, 02:33 AM
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matrix88
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Dec 9 2017, 02:33 AM
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TS only 20 years old and thinking to skip degree but straight to MBA, no foundation of education you will not be able to understand anything you study in MBA and will not be able to do your thesis and your projects.
Come on, don't dream and try to be smart by cutting corners! if this can be done, no one will need to continue with diploma or degree. and dont be a lazy bum for skipping your studies. You will be a good for nothing in future!
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AnimeSinceForever
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Dec 9 2017, 03:24 AM
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Aren't many tycoons and business leaders in Malaysia without proper qualifications though? Then they will say "Experience is more important than education" and "I didn't even finish secondary school, and I hire university graduates". A Chinaman company boss I know ... is the CEO of a software development company ... and has never written a single line of code in his life ... and likes to brag "I write in DBase" (durr ... dbase is a database creation programme, not a programming language!) QUOTE(matrix88 @ Dec 9 2017, 02:33 AM) TS only 20 years old and thinking to skip degree but straight to MBA, no foundation of education you will not be able to understand anything you study in MBA and will not be able to do your thesis and your projects. Come on, don't dream and try to be smart by cutting corners! if this can be done, no one will need to continue with diploma or degree. and dont be a lazy bum for skipping your studies. You will be a good for nothing in future!
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Buyalotforgaming
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Dec 9 2017, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE(Leon|| @ Dec 9 2017, 02:32 AM) 3 more yrs to 30, started my career in very early stage with part time diploma Are there any programs that would be based on number of years of work experience instead of age? Strange....but I am really not sure about this too.
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matrix88
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Dec 10 2017, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE(AnimeSinceForever @ Dec 9 2017, 03:24 AM) Aren't many tycoons and business leaders in Malaysia without proper qualifications though? Then they will say "Experience is more important than education" and "I didn't even finish secondary school, and I hire university graduates". A Chinaman company boss I know ... is the CEO of a software development company ... and has never written a single line of code in his life ... and likes to brag "I write in DBase" (durr ... dbase is a database creation programme, not a programming language!) those were the days when education is not available, they made it the difficult way. TS only 20 years old thinking of cutting corners, I am sure this type of mentality is wrong and will not succeed!
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TSacepilot12
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Dec 11 2017, 01:09 AM
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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Dec 10 2017, 01:08 PM) those were the days when education is not available, they made it the difficult way. TS only 20 years old thinking of cutting corners, I am sure this type of mentality is wrong and will not succeed!
Thanks. I've been waiting for people like you to step on me and to be very sure that I will not succeed in future. This post has been edited by acepilot12: Dec 11 2017, 01:11 AM
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