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 Skip Degree, straight To MBA, good or bad?

good or bad?
 
As per your plan, yes go ahead [ 19 ] ** [54.29%]
As per your plan, no this is not the way [ 16 ] ** [45.71%]
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joe_toye
post Nov 6 2017, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(chamelion @ Nov 6 2017, 02:48 PM)
Without degree in specialise; MBA is nothing.
MBA just a paper cover very wide area but not deep.

Anyway your problem is not MBA or Degree; is your attitude to complete something, lack of persistent and will.

How could you finish a MBA if your cant finish your Degree?
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Sorry - you are wrong.

You can actually do an MBA or Masters without a degree provided you meet the minimum years in terms of working experience in a related field.

Many Academics believe that the working experience is worth it's weight in Gold when it comes to MBA and that to get the most out of an MBA, you must first work instead of straight-away continuing from a degree programme.

How could you finish a MBA if your cant finish your Degree? - Are you trying to tell me that someone who has years of working experience and has even started a Multi-million dollar company CANNOT finish an MBA? Someone with a Diploma or even SPM? Do you even know your facts or are you just shooting off from your mouth without an inch of research to back your statement? This is pure bollocks! I can even tell you of people who skip Masters to do their PHD!

So anyway - the Education Framework works this way - the higher you go in Tertiary Education, the more focus your area is. That's why PHD programmes are so narrow into one particular research field. Let me illustrate it for you:

Imagine a circle that contains all of human knowledge. By the time you finish your secondary school and diploma you are a small dot in the middle of the circle. With a Degree you gain a speciality. A master's degree helps to deepen that speciality. Reading research papers takes you to the edge of human knowledge and after many years, you manage you make a dent on the outer circle - that is PHD. (hence the red tip touching the entire circle). So yeah the response where MBA just a paper cover very wide area but not deep is entirely WRONG!

Look here - http://matt.might.net/articles/phd-school-in-pictures/

The MBA is considered in many circles as a terminal professional degree which covers mostly the scientific approaches to management - or in most cases a specialised area of management.

joe_toye
post Nov 6 2017, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(2feidei @ Nov 6 2017, 02:34 PM)
If u can find any college or university can admit you without basic bachelor degree, then, good on u.

Next thing is to ask yourself, why or what do you want to achieve for this MBA? Just to satisfy your parents nagging? Or, you deeply want it yourself?
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There are some but not many here in Malaysia. Most of the MBAs that accept students without a degree are in the UK and US.

I do know of some public universities that allow for Masters even without a degree or diploma but based on the years of experience. And we are talking about actual Public Universities.
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post Nov 9 2017, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(acepilot12 @ Nov 7 2017, 08:04 PM)
thank you for your information and guidance..
But can i know, if let's say i owned my business for 2 years now
and currently i'm only 20 years old. Turning 21 next year .
can i still do my degree? i have a friend who work as a counselor in uni/college but i'm not sure whether he is a good guidance or not

all i hope is i dont want to continue my degree because it will take awhile 3 years in my life. I can do so much more with those time.
On top of that, I can still have MBA cert to back me up just incase my business die within this few years.

At least i can come out cari makan ? what do you think? thanks
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In short - no!

You don't actually have enough experience in the field to skip to a MBA.

The reality is that some university will say yes that you can because all they want is your money. The sad part of tertiary education n Malaysia is that most institutions run education as a business. And they do NOT follow the strict guidelines given by both the Malaysian Qualifications Agency and the Ministry of Higher Education. Owning a business does NOT qualify as work experience actually unless the business is large enough to be considered. There is a size consideration as well of around >10 personnel and revenue.

My advice? Focus on building your business. If your business dies - then worry about that when you come to that. If i was a company, i won't hire you based on your MBA alone btw. I'll see your experience and attitude.
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post Nov 9 2017, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(anggaPra @ Nov 7 2017, 08:12 PM)
lol no need to have 20 years experience to take MBA without degree. You just need to have work experience 6 years and above, although it depends on the uni, some require less than 6 years. They will also take into consideration what job experience you had.
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Actually as a rule of thumb - it's around 5-10 years depending on the sector and position.

You can check out the MQA APEL thing as a general guide.

http://www2.mqa.gov.my/APEL/
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post Nov 22 2017, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(Protoculture @ Nov 21 2017, 10:33 PM)
Let's cut to the chase. If you're 30 years of age and above, with relevant work experience AND minimum academic qualification such as recognised Diploma OR STPM with 2 Principles OR A-Levels OR STAM (maqbul - passed) OR Matriculation with 2.0 CGPA, then you're eligible to enroll to Masters' degree through APEL Admission as set by MQA.

Generally APEL Centers as appointed by MQA are any Open University Malaysia OR Wawasan Open University learning centers all over Malaysia.

APEL admission will required your to pass Aptitude Tests and also Porfolio requirement. Refer MQA for further details.
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Sorry to correct you. APEL allows the students entry to ANY university. It's just an approval/validation letter from MQA that allows the university to accept the applicant.

OUM, Wawasan, AEU and all are the few Higher Educational Institutions that are allowed by MOHE/MQA to offer open and distance-learning modes in Malaysia.
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post Nov 23 2017, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(Protoculture @ Nov 22 2017, 07:06 PM)
You're mistaken .... Never did in my previous statement ever referred APEL is strictly for WOU and OUM. I only stated that,
We're talking about APEL Centers whereby APEL applicants must take their APEL Admission Test and submitted their APEL Portfolio. OUM / WOU Learning Centers are appointed by MQA to be APEL Centers.
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Ah. Sorry - I still am confused of the difference between APEL and APEL©. The pilot centres are like you mentioned OUM and WOU but also included UiTM and INTI.

But APEL© are test centres to enter directly into the degree programmes which are being offered by those 4 institutes, right? If an applicant wants to use his prior experience to join another institution besides the four listed, he has to apply directly to MQA and MQA assesses him? I have seen the APEL process but it never went through the external institutions. Sorry - would like to know more about this. The MQA officer i deal with didn't actually explain much about APEL ©

 

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