Oh well... typical ktard. Just move on. Nothing else to see here.
True Cost of Sex Tourism in Philippines
True Cost of Sex Tourism in Philippines
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Nov 1 2017, 04:59 PM
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Oh well... typical ktard. Just move on. Nothing else to see here.
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Nov 1 2017, 05:01 PM
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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Nov 1 2017, 08:59 AM) It is, like TS said, that profession is very old and cannot be abolished so IT MUST BE LEGALIZED. If you say he assume, show proof he is wrong then?He already assumed that old profession are by default legal and he already assumed that the society need face either legal prostitution or non legal prostitution since it cannot be killed. Whereas there are other possibilities where a society can in fact function without prostitution in this current era. So he already assumed its either we accept legal prostitution or non legal prostitution, which means, it is false dichotomy. Faham tak kid? Haih.. fail la this fella What country no prostitute (legal or illegal)? |
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Nov 1 2017, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Oct 30 2017, 02:14 PM) go see the real world first before arguing about these thingsthese kind of documentary only film the bad side of it, never ever explore the actual factual side about it. assumed that all the girls involved are bad or desperate if prostitution or pornography is so bad, why would even developed countries legalized it ? remember japan, germany and US economies are leading in the world u wanna have a go at that statement ? |
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Nov 1 2017, 05:08 PM
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oldest profession is also murderer (first murderer)
should legalised contract killer also |
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Nov 1 2017, 05:14 PM
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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Oct 30 2017, 08:30 AM) Deswai islam say kenot simply piap. In one study, decriminalization indoor prostitution caused both forcible rape offenses and gonorrhea incidence to decline for the overall population.Now the aftermath.. Hopefully malaysia wont become worst like this, need more clamping on ILLEGAL prostitution https://www.nber.org/papers/w20281 |
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Nov 1 2017, 05:18 PM
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aku suka tered berbalah pendapat nie. rasa macam action movie pulak. if dorang dapat facetoface kan best aku dok tepi mkn cengkodok pisang.
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Nov 1 2017, 05:26 PM
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Nov 1 2017, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(gamehype @ Nov 1 2017, 05:01 PM) I said a society, doesnt mean they have to be a whole country.One example? Those who lived in mecca. This area are restricted to muslims only. QUOTE(Chobits @ Nov 1 2017, 05:05 PM) go see the real world first before arguing about these things Wow..there are numbers of reports by prostitutes themselves (from these first world country u mentioned) reported the abuse and scams within the industry.these kind of documentary only film the bad side of it, never ever explore the actual factual side about it. assumed that all the girls involved are bad or desperate if prostitution or pornography is so bad, why would even developed countries legalized it ? remember japan, germany and US economies are leading in the world u wanna have a go at that statement ? In fact, you can find lots of these documentaries are covering the porn industry in US. Even the hollywood industry are rife with sex and human rights abuse , wanna bet the porn industry would do any better? |
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Nov 1 2017, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(revolusi @ Nov 1 2017, 05:35 PM) You do know that sex before marriage is also prohibited in Christianity right? Of course they are not just due to religion per se, many factors involved which give rise to this profession. It has more to do with the social economic situation than with religion. Im just saying based on the aftermath this is why Islam prohibited such profession, even during the prophet Muhammad time there are prostitutes in their society, and that time Islam wasnt known to them. This post has been edited by NUR_VER.3: Nov 1 2017, 05:48 PM |
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Nov 1 2017, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(Coup De Grace @ Nov 1 2017, 05:14 PM) In one study, decriminalization indoor prostitution caused both forcible rape offenses and gonorrhea incidence to decline for the overall population. Sure thing, but that doesnt mean its good for the society as a whole.https://www.nber.org/papers/w20281 We dont need to think too much bro, go look at the prostitution and porn industry in the US, the human right, mental, sex, abuse and also scams involved within this industry. That alone is enough for me to say it will bring more harm than good to the society. |
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Nov 1 2017, 06:00 PM
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QUOTE(revolusi @ Nov 1 2017, 05:51 PM) Prohibiting something doesn't make it disappear. Prostitution itself really isn't that big of a deal if it is done safely. Of course it doesnt, but prohibition will act as deterrence to those who are afraid of getting caught.Which leave it to those who arent afraid to go agaisnt the law (and time to time we will see them on tv caught by law enforcers). Im not saying we have to make it dissapear, heck for some group of people their didi is ruling their head, but personally I dont see it will do good for the society as a whole. Economically it might be good, but at what cost? See the aftermath in the video by TS? THAT IS THE COST. Legal or no legal, its a cancer for society, thats what i think. |
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Nov 1 2017, 06:02 PM
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Nov 1 2017, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Nov 1 2017, 06:00 PM) Of course it doesnt, but prohibition will act as deterrence to those who are afraid of getting caught. US has tried something like this beforeWhich leave it to those who arent afraid to go agaisnt the law (and time to time we will see them on tv caught by law enforcers). Im not saying we have to make it dissapear, heck for some group of people their didi is ruling their head, but personally I dont see it will do good for the society as a whole. Economically it might be good, but at what cost? See the aftermath in the video by TS? THAT IS THE COST. Legal or no legal, its a cancer for society, thats what i think. Prohibiting alcohol which is a cancer to the society However it did not went well People just could not stop drinking so they keep breaking the law So in the end experiment has to stop The mind is strong, but the body is weak Stricter regulations instead of a ban may be the answer but i dunno |
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Nov 1 2017, 06:14 PM
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QUOTE(Coup De Grace @ Nov 1 2017, 06:07 PM) US has tried something like this before All these legalization are just damage control to regulate and profit from the activity, but it doesnt solve the problem at the first place.Prohibiting alcohol which is a cancer to the society However it did not went well People just could not stop drinking so they keep breaking the law So in the end experiment has to stop The mind is strong, but the body is weak Stricter regulations instead of a ban may be the answer but i dunno We still face drunk driving accidents, alcoholics, etc. But of course we cant deny the reduction in number. However we cant deny the fact that there are people living in this world who never drink alcohol, never hired prostitutes, never smoke, etc. The real question here is, why these people can live normally but some others need all these "sinful" activity to live normally? What was it that triggered such reliance on these activities at the first place? Is it peer pressure? Stress? Societal norm? |
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Nov 1 2017, 06:53 PM
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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Oct 30 2017, 12:59 PM) to be more accurate, it's the "appeal to antiquity/common practice" fallacy (argumentum ad antiquitatem)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition |
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Nov 1 2017, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE(cyhborg @ Nov 1 2017, 06:53 PM) to be more accurate, it's the "appeal to antiquity/common practice" fallacy (argumentum ad antiquitatem) Yeah, thats more accurate haha gotta be surprised by how many terms and jargons we can learn here.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition |
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Nov 1 2017, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Nov 1 2017, 05:43 PM) I said a society, doesnt mean they have to be a whole country. How do you know these people don't go outside Mecca, fuck some prostitute, then come back? One example? Those who lived in mecca. This area are restricted to muslims only. You can't take some sections of a country, and then says its works for a whole country. Imagine some vegan nut says its possible to go vegan, then show some temple/village somewhere in the world where whole population is vegan and say its possible. QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Nov 1 2017, 05:54 PM) Sure thing, but that doesnt mean its good for the society as a whole. US is not shining example on anything la. Don't use US as an example la. They can't even enforce their gun laws properly, something they are so vocal about.We dont need to think too much bro, go look at the prostitution and porn industry in the US, the human right, mental, sex, abuse and also scams involved within this industry. That alone is enough for me to say it will bring more harm than good to the society. Prostitution in Europe are more regulated (but not perfect) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Europe https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/78...laws_in_europe/ QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Oct 30 2017, 12:59 PM) Look at the two links above. Also read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_..._United_Kingdom QUOTE In Great Britain (England, Wales and Scotland), prostitution itself (the exchange of sexual services for money) is legal,[2] but a number of related activities, including soliciting in a public place, kerb crawling, owning or managing a brothel, pimping and pandering, are crimes. In Northern Ireland, which previously had similar laws, paying for sex became illegal on 1 June 2015.[3] In England and Wales, it is an offence to pay for sex with a prostitute who has been "subjected to force" and this is a strict liability offence (clients can be prosecuted even if they did not know the prostitute was forced). That right. They made pimping illegal, but prostitution not. Prostitution isn't the same everywhere in the world, and some countries definitely does it better than other countries. QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Oct 30 2017, 12:59 PM) I think the point he is trying to make is that its impossible to get rid of prostitution, and the "oldest profession in the world" is his proof of it. He wasn't arguing "its the oldest, so it should be legal"QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Oct 30 2017, 12:59 PM) Btw, got demand so need to supply? So people asking for recreational drugs so we should legalize drug use and purchase? No. Drugs are inherently harmful. But safe sex isn't. If prostitute and buyer is willing and is doing safe sex, who are you to stop them? QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Oct 30 2017, 12:59 PM) Oh yeah, even in so called "legal" prostitution, u think their basic labour rights is being practiced? go look for more documentaries covering prostitutes and porn actors lah, how fucuk up their so called "basic rights" being trampled. Thus proper enforcement is the key here. Like Malaysia, lots of thing illegal, but no enforcement. Like lots of construction and plantation company uses illegal labour workers. So how? Ban construction and plantation companies? QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Oct 30 2017, 12:59 PM) its all fine and dandy when you are the consumers, but for the suppliers? even the girls themselves are suffering lah, have u seen billionaire prostitutes? no... No billionaire farmer, no billionaire fisherman, no billionaire taxi driver, no billionaire teacher, etc etc etc. QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Oct 30 2017, 12:59 PM) This profession is the LAST RESORT for desperate, gullible, naive, or those who rely on superficial features to earn money because they have no other skills to rely on. If society as a whole can help this desperate, gullible, naive girls to get better job, all the better for that society. But that goes to show, it starts by education/welfare/helping these girl, not by banning it. You can ban drugs, but there is still drug buyer and drug sellers.This post has been edited by gamehype: Nov 1 2017, 08:53 PM |
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Nov 1 2017, 09:22 PM
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QUOTE(gamehype @ Nov 1 2017, 08:52 PM) How do you know these people don't go outside Mecca, fuck some prostitute, then come back? LOLYou can't take some sections of a country, and then says its works for a whole country. Imagine some vegan nut says its possible to go vegan, then show some temple/village somewhere in the world where whole population is vegan and say its possible. US is not shining example on anything la. Don't use US as an example la. They can't even enforce their gun laws properly, something they are so vocal about. Prostitution in Europe are more regulated (but not perfect) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Europe https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/78...laws_in_europe/ Look at the two links above. Also read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_..._United_Kingdom That right. They made pimping illegal, but prostitution not. Prostitution isn't the same everywhere in the world, and some countries definitely does it better than other countries. I think the point he is trying to make is that its impossible to get rid of prostitution, and the "oldest profession in the world" is his proof of it. He wasn't arguing "its the oldest, so it should be legal" Drugs are inherently harmful. But safe sex isn't. If prostitute and buyer is willing and is doing safe sex, who are you to stop them? Thus proper enforcement is the key here. Like Malaysia, lots of thing illegal, but no enforcement. Like lots of construction and plantation company uses illegal labour workers. So how? Ban construction and plantation companies? No billionaire farmer, no billionaire fisherman, no billionaire taxi driver, no billionaire teacher, etc etc etc. If society as a whole can help this desperate, gullible, naive girls to get better job, all the better for that society. But that goes to show, it starts by education/welfare/helping these girl, not by banning it. You can ban drugs, but there is still drug buyer and drug sellers. Another random dupe replying to my comments that were meant for others.. haih.. damn lazy lah bro, go backtrack my comments lah, all your arguments requires me to explain my posts properly...aint got time for that QUOTE(hardreality @ Nov 1 2017, 09:04 PM) Coup de Grace already provided you a link to the benefits of legalized prostitution. Where's your evidence to substantiate your claims, or are you just depending on emotional rhetoric ? So we need to spoonfeed in k/? this whole thread started with solid evidence about the problem of prostitution, do i need to remind again?haih.. best thing is, im replying to random dupes who just registered this year lol.... fake accounts for trolling? aint worth my goddamn time This post has been edited by NUR_VER.3: Nov 1 2017, 09:23 PM |
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Nov 1 2017, 09:28 PM
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QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Nov 1 2017, 09:22 PM) LOL I reread everything you said already. Another random dupe replying to my comments that were meant for others.. haih.. damn lazy lah bro, go backtrack my comments lah, all your arguments requires me to explain my posts properly...aint got time for that So we need to spoonfeed in k/? this whole thread started with solid evidence about the problem of prostitution, do i need to remind again? haih.. best thing is, im replying to random dupes who just registered this year lol.... fake accounts for trolling? aint worth my goddamn time And addressed them in my post bit by bit. Like for example, you keep using US as an example. I said US is not good example at anything. None of the points I brought up were brought up by other people. QUOTE(NUR_VER.3 @ Nov 1 2017, 09:22 PM) So we need to spoonfeed in k/? this whole thread started with solid evidence about the problem of prostitution, do i need to remind again? It shows the problems of prostitution in Philippines. Guess what, prostitution is not legal in Philippines anyway. So what then? Banning it doesn't help the prostitutes.Edit : I never troll with my accounts. I guess when you can't beat other people argument and proof, you just say fake account la, trolling la etc. This post has been edited by gamehype: Nov 1 2017, 09:33 PM |
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Nov 1 2017, 09:44 PM
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