You forgot to link BIOS 411. Stable BIOs so far but can't OC it yet since I don't have D9's with me. So far on Elpida's boot stable at 400Mhz
DFI Infinity 965-S Disscussion, Talk About How to Tweak
DFI Infinity 965-S Disscussion, Talk About How to Tweak
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You forgot to link BIOS 411. Stable BIOs so far but can't OC it yet since I don't have D9's with me. So far on Elpida's boot stable at 400Mhz
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Apr 19 2007, 01:03 AM
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QUOTE(raist86 @ Apr 19 2007, 12:42 AM) erm. . is 411 the latest stable bios? not beta arr? 411 seems stable so far. Currently playing with Elpida's so trying to get the best bandwidth timings even at 333Mhz. Will push up slowly later. Older Elpida's aren't as high flyers as nowadaysi'm still a long way to go to fully unleash the potential of this board.. haven't get proc and ram yet.. still on budget parts.. for proc.. i know i'm getting e6300 la.. but ram.. no idea which one's the best buy.. Btw, hit 3.8ghz on pentium D 920 on stock cooling and stock voltage.. not stable though.. died after 20 mins of orthos. |
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Apr 20 2007, 01:33 PM
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Dang nice clocks. You're lucky using D9's. Can't seem to stabilise mine on Elpida's. Currently doing 8*333 instead stock volts but adjusted timings
EDIT: BTW, would appereciate if you guys posted results including which BIOS you're using. Thanks This post has been edited by almostthere: Apr 20 2007, 01:33 PM |
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Apr 23 2007, 09:43 AM
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It's not actually strap recalculating. It's a safe method on ensuring that the BIOS does not get corrupt actually. Those who've frequently OC'ed would realise that too many times in a row changing the clock frequency would lead to some corruption in the BIOS. Sometimes it would mean a cold boot or worse (back when customised BIOS was still in it's infancy) a dead BIOS requiring a hot flash
EDIT: In fact for 965-S users, if you dare to risk a corrupt BIOS, you can opt for a soft reset option by selecting Mode 1 for Exit Setup Shutdown under Genie BIOS section This post has been edited by almostthere: Apr 23 2007, 09:58 AM |
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Apr 23 2007, 05:30 PM
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QUOTE(sup3rfly @ Apr 23 2007, 01:16 PM) er...sifu almostthere can i know what is that VTT for ar.... i mean by increasing it which component is helped by it??? proc or ram? VTT is if I'm not mistaken is your FSB voltage. If you've used 975XBX2, it corresponds accordingly. Based on what other have done, if at high clocks unstable, you'd need to boost it up a bit.Currently doing 8*400 at 1.47v. Seems it's true what they say about the vdroop. A consistent 0.07v drop at load. I can boot stably at 1.4v but when ORTHOS loads up, reboots. Once corrected the vdroop, 1 hour stable so far. But for the time being playing with RAM timings. Tip for you guys, if your rig can't get past POST but everything else runs normally (i.e. you reset your PC and doesn't hang) adjust the tRFC. I'm setting mine at 22 which is the lowest I can go. |
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Apr 23 2007, 05:46 PM
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Apr 23 2007, 11:40 PM
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QUOTE(sup3rfly @ Apr 23 2007, 10:08 PM) there is a lot of options that i dun really understand in the Dark's bios.... like the Startup Clock... what izzit ar You should refer to Raja's thread in dficlub to understand all the options. But if I were you, I'd leave that startup clock alone TBH. And are you sure 0.02v? I'm detecting 0.07v using multimeteri cant seem to find a complete guide about the bios...as for vdroop matter.... i m getting 0.02v drop when i orthos it.... http://csd.dficlub.org/forum/showthread.php?p=18796 |
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Apr 24 2007, 01:11 AM
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QUOTE(sup3rfly @ Apr 23 2007, 11:51 PM) aiyak...forgot to bookmark it and some more my router tengah buat hal. Gives problems whenever it heats up. But if you checked the XS sites, quite a few have tested it and reported those vdroopsThis post has been edited by almostthere: Apr 24 2007, 01:16 AM |
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Apr 24 2007, 01:58 PM
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Apr 24 2007, 11:45 AM) i also kena vdrop when orthos,i set 1.525 vcore when i orthos it dropped to 1.47 lo.....kinda a lot.... how you detected the vdroop? Using Smartguardian isit? Mine C1e and PPM enabled the voltage naik to BIOS settings got la. But the problem is that the real vdroop is not shown due to poor calibration and resolution.btw,i also cant show full logo when boot up even i changed the option inside the dark power bios.... and also got a lot of thing that i dont know is what... EDIT: However I'm reading that the new beta 418 BIOS causes a lower vdroop. About 0.01v if upto 1.5v VCORE I'll try my best to find that post of the vdroop measure. But do bear in mind that Intel's spec allows vdroop of between 0.01 to 0.05v This post has been edited by almostthere: Apr 24 2007, 02:22 PM |
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QUOTE([) [][][][],Apr 24 2007, 09:42 PM]hehe... anything reputable which has got a native 24 pin + 8 pin connector on it. Mine is a HEC dual Xeon rated PSU. Stable like anythingnew dark user reporting in. need some suggestion u guys. what psu suitable for this mobo?? NOTE: Guys wanna share you all one finding. Seems the MBM5 mod by FCG of XS isn't working properly for the Dark. Repeated this 3 times to confirm. Every time if I load the MBM5 with the C2D plugin, CPU usage shoots up whereby System process (sub process DPC and H/w IRQ) takes upto 70-80% usage. Suspecting because the IRQ access is causing massive delays and increased queued process This post has been edited by almostthere: Apr 24 2007, 09:59 PM |
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Apr 25 2007, 08:37 AM
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QUOTE([) [][][][],Apr 25 2007, 03:47 AM]icic... If I were you, don't even think about using converters. There was a reason why I emphasized using native 24pin + 8 pin PSU's. It's by no mistake my PC is so far the least problematic among the Dark users here. This is because this mobo is very sensitive to voltage stability like all past DFi's great clockers, so therefore you shouldn't even begin to cut cost there. If you're planning to use a mid range GPU, then just get a good server based PSU which has the native connection I mentioned earlier, stable 12v amperage of about 30A's and above. Brands like for example Delta and HEC. I'm using this for examplebut OP650 is way over my budget. p/s: there must be 8 pin converter just like 6 pin converter for 7 series right. so i guess this ST56F will do for now. i just want to power up my rig ASAP and do above average oc but not kaw kaw. thx for ur opinion. BTW, what is single or dual rail? http://www.cardigan-computer.co.uk/product...atid=40&pid=428 And rails is like voltage lines. Good PSU's have 3 individual rails, particularly +3.3v, +5v and +12v. After that there are PSU's which even have sub rails meaning the +12v would be split down even further meaning there would be +12v1, +12v2, and so on P.S.: Even if you don't use a G80 GC, plugging in that floppy power connector is a good idea. Made my rig more stable. Last time needed 1.48v like that for my current clocks but now does it at 1.42v with C1e enabled QUOTE(Ciku @ Apr 25 2007, 05:16 AM) Coming from a 3 post poster, doesn't this sound like spam?This post has been edited by almostthere: Apr 25 2007, 08:39 AM |
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QUOTE(sup3rfly @ Apr 25 2007, 08:55 AM) i m quite lucky that i dont have any issue with the Dark...i just put everything in and its boots up correctly.... ppl say it has some issue with D9 rams but so far mine is fine.... the PSU is ok also... btw i m using the FSP epsilon.... its not a dam good PSU but its a quite budget one on that time FSP alias Fortron's are good man. That was the choice of overclockers during the crazy nForce 2/ BH5 OC days because of it's stability. IF your's is budget then mine leh?QUOTE(SPRINTA @ Apr 25 2007, 10:03 AM) Regarding the power recycling thing, I believe you guys still experienced it right ? Whenever I turn on my pc, it will on for 2-3 seconds and then shutdowns itself and on back after that. LoL ~~~ I wonder will there be any fixes for this ? I read from somewhere that the P965 chipset with a revision C2 solves this problem. I've elaborated in post #91 about it and in fact if you really want to have a fast reboot, there's an option there which is a gamble if you ask me.QUOTE(jy14 @ Apr 25 2007, 11:23 AM) I didn't set anything, just plug in everything, then just boot up like normal, install windows, update stuffs and then ready to roll. Use the Smart Guardian, detected 1.9V for the ram voltage. CHeck with CPU-Z, found the timing to be 4-4-4-12, previously on DS3, it was auto also, running at 5-5-5-15. the mobo would be able to find the basic boot stable boot settings which is why so many have not faced problems starting theirs up for the first time. Not to mention that the mobo has a very good compromise settinsg wise in terms of latencies vs. bandwidth. But might I suggest that you adjust your advanced timings to take advantage of your RAM. I gained a reasonable increase by adjusting timings TBHSo, I was just curious, izzit bcoz DFI has the ability to find the most suitable timing for the RAMs?
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Apr 25 2007, 02:27 PM
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Apr 25 2007, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(sup3rfly @ Apr 25 2007, 02:41 PM) wah better bcareful ler... but HEC is a quite reliable one also.... if can later upgrade it ler...PSU can be a murderer to kill ur other hw also Nah, HEC's are damned reliable since last time. And the ripple isn't as bad as some branded PSU's which I shall not name anyway. And since running a 7900GS, more then enough for meQUOTE([][][][][] @ Apr 25 2007, 03:01 PM) the PSU i might buy hav that 8 pin connector.so it is ok right? Should be as long the amperage are good. Single rail by marketing terms would mean that there would be only one +12v, instead of +12v1, +12v2 and bla bla bla. Good PSU's would have at least the 3.3/5/12v all running on individual rails. It's recommended that at all times the floppy is plugged in for increased stability. My PC now can run at lower voltages due to the increased voltage stability.u mean that if the PSU hav single rail,then all the voltage lines are combined? if i use a mid range gc, is it recommended to plug the floppy connector also? thx. |
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Apr 25 2007, 07:06 PM) well,my ram is GMH with CL4 and 2.1vdimm,more than enough....last time i was able to run this setting in my DQ6,DS3,965PT,all mobo able to run it,only this dark power got problem.....maybe this mobo got some cacing inside.... try loosening up your advanced timings, usually that's the limiting factor there. D9's comfortable working range should be about the followingtRFC - 21-30 All Precharge to ACT = use 4 Write to PRE TWR = 10 (upto 840) 11 for upto 1000 TWTR - 9/10 This post has been edited by almostthere: Apr 25 2007, 08:16 PM |
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Yep confirmed B0 no jalan, B1's will boot up on the 965-S Dark. Sorry Shawty, you're out of luck
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QUOTE(AceCombat @ Apr 26 2007, 11:49 AM) If I recall correctly, B0 had some functions disabled or working incorrectly such as C1e and PPM which meant that mobo's which boot up based on detection of these functions would not be able to detect correctly everythingQUOTE(chek @ Apr 26 2007, 12:01 PM) I think its is the core temperature issue. My E6600 es is reading something like 70~85C idle. I know it is a bug because this cpu is running on Swiftech water cooling. When I touch the water block, it is cold. The same cooling on on PentiumD 930 only reads 26 ~ 45C top at load To be sure you need to read the sensor's using TAT which would measure based on core not Tjunction which at times might be miscalculated. Besides that, have you made sure your WB is making 100% contact with proc? |
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Apr 26 2007, 09:57 PM) What the hell are you talking about? chill la bro..some people are still noobs leh.It does not need an extra 8 pins power connector. It just use one 8pins ATX power connector, not two. and syapl, the mobo you can use 4 pin ATX but for better stability, it's recommended to plug in an 8 pin instead anyway this is the final word about B0's from Raju of XS QUOTE(raju) QUOTE(neverthere) QUOTE(raju) QUOTE(neverthere) Wanna ask on behalf of some users over in Malaysia, does the Dark work with ES procs? So far one has reported it not being able to boot up mine boots up fine with e6600 es B0 or B1 stepping? Wanna confirm for sure cos I've got tons of queries concerning this issue. If B1 then it confirms what I've heard so far about B0's not being friendly to lots of mobo's it's a b1, bootin in 965-s, no boot in badaxe 2 or Asus latest mobo's p5ntws regards Raja bottom line Intel had lots of ES cpus stolen so they've been locked out of the bios's, people need to buy retail cpu's.. This post has been edited by almostthere: Apr 26 2007, 10:25 PM |
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