Talking about real butter, not premium fat spread , those mixed with palm oil/ other veggie oil
100% butter
A small block costs so much, but it's considered a basic food in other countries, costing them very little

Price of 1 kg butter, cheapest
Tesco UK RM 32.30
Tesco Malaysia RM 42.45
Coles AU RM 31.61

This post has been edited by jfleong: Oct 29 2017, 08:02 PM

all dairy product are expensive here

same thing as why are Pasta's cheaper in Italian countries than here

Sekian

U x suka u amik substitution such as margarine.

speaking of butter... President > all

but i tot margarine is healthier?

dude...everything is expensive in malaysia, compared to even singapore. Cheese, butter, wine, etc

Nope. Margarine got trans fat . Search YouTube for videos regarding this

what is trans fat?

butter got saturated fat
margarine got mono and poly saturated fat

mono and poly saturated is trans fat?

dairy product damn expensive

i almost flip table when i saw supermarket selling two 1L carton of milk for rm18... and claiming it is a promotion..

How much is butter here, and how much is butter there?

A little bit of chemistry here
Plant fats usually have more unsaturated fat , i.e. fat molecules with at least one double bond (saturated fat have all single bonds) . This means that it's more liquid (lower melting point)
in the process of making margarine, they hydrogenise the oil, breaking down double bonds into single bonds by adding hydrogen to the bond
but for some of the bonds, the orientation is opposite of the naturally occurring bonds , which is why it's called trans-fat

Dairy product is expensive here because of low supply high entry barrier into the market.

Similarly, you'll shit brick when you see the prices of Malaysian spices or fruits overseas.

Price of real estate getting higher. Need to pay more sinking funds and maintenance fees.

You think so cheap to rear cows?

Dairy products di Malaysia mahal. Malaysia should focus more on agriculture. It's one of basic needs anyway. Yet people here look down on people working in these sectors(farmer, fisherman, etc.)

expensive cause our lembu lives in condos

TS, this.

Difficult to raise cattle in tropics.
Also I heard in countries that have four seasons, milk production falls during summer. (not sure, don't quote me on this)

https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/290921181
1 kg = 5.80 GBP = Rm32.30
https://eshop.tesco.com.my/groceries/en-GB/...ch?query=butter
Here 1 kg RM42.45

Even absolute prices already more expensive, let alone accounting for difference in income

There are cheaper things here than overseas. Give and take.

from your explanation, saturated fats are better?

How did you infer that?

Trans fat is the absolute worst, shouldn't even be in your diet
Unsaturated fat is better than saturated fat, especially poly unsaturated (means more than one double bond per molecule)

Bekos our project lembu kondo failed

That's why I don't drink milk nowadays.

Been so long since I last purchase HL milk.

During my papa time our family can still afford HL milk back in the 90s.

But when come to my time we can no longer afford the same lifestyle.

I failed as a sole bread winner to the family.



This post has been edited by ListenToTheAngin: Oct 29 2017, 08:09 PM

Damnit, Lurpak so much difference. Around 50% difference.

ok la 30% extra .... try others stuff .... min 100% extra.

Their PPP per Capita 42100 USD , ours 26900

Nope. Margarine is nothing more than hydrogenated palm oil. It's artificial.
Real butter is real ... original cow fat. Priced around ~ RM9-15 per 250g pack.

The cheaper Buttercup and other cheap butters < RM8 are adulterated butter.
They contain a high proportion of soft margarine.

Real butter is the best, inc clarified butter i.e. (real) ghee.
Read the labels properly when purchasing butter/ghee to diffferentiate between original and artificial mix.

try the car pls n also understand my reply

There is a butter crisis in France, as overseas buyers are willing to pay more, just like our durians

Sos

I also cannot afford HL milk.. Nowadays 1L cost like 7 bucks.. Used to cost like 3 bucks and ate with cereals like a boss during childhood.

But.. U know what. HL milk is expensive than those australian milk new zealand german milk in singapore

And HL milk is from malaysia milk company

Malaysia milk ke arah kuasa besar dunia

some one will comment on those label in /K ...

its cheaper in phillipine
its a wonder their petrol and vegetable so expensive

I rotate my milk brand, each brand has its own taste. Recently I like Summerfield for fresh milk.

you're making me confused

margarine has poly and mono saturated fat
butter has saturated fat

your explanation makes me think butter is better than margarine

Takde kerana lembu Sini tinggall Kat condo.

U know that kundasang Sabah have cow milk? But I only see they sell in Sabah hypermarket.

Better expensive
If not later got nasi lemak cheese, roti canai cheese, keuteow cheese, karipap cheese

I buy anchor n Kerry goldbutter... not by kg.

Kerry gold is rm12..maybe usd3.

Import food will have permit, halal, transport and storage cost.

wtf......Japan fresh milk only cost like RM5 for a litre

Japan actually have a dairy industry (concentrated in Hokkaido), though it's not in a good shape atm.

You want cheaper milk here, need to open up Sabah/Sarawak vast open spaces to dairy farming for a real effort.
Anything done in Peninsula is a half-cooked effort, imo. It won't fill local demand, almost zero chance for regional export potential.

Deswai japunis growing taller while msian getting shorter

How many kids can even get the recommended daily allowance of calcium to grow.. All they eat are carbs lel

This post has been edited by arsenwagon: Oct 29 2017, 09:11 PM

Cos gays buying more butter than ever now.

In Sabah got Desa Dairy farm


Nama saya kinowerty

2 carton rm18?
where?
that is cheap.

Farm Fresh is local brand rite?

Price still expensive wor.

But delicious lo

Makanan dairy bukan budaya kita. Also most butter are imported and u should know that ringgit yang lemah baik untuk eksport bukan import.

oh, didn't know their dairy industry is in a bad shape. I did notice most of the milk packaging has some hokkaido name written on them

Sabah Desa fresh milk is also not cheap IMO, I think it's around rm6-8 if my memory still serves me right..gosh i miss their chocolate milk
Am not too familiar with dairy industry in Malaysia but I guess now you mentioned it then it's pretty obvious when there's only 2~4 brands of fresh milk in the local supermarket

milk here in JP so cheap, it's like drinking mineral water or beer (beer is so damn cheap ) if 100 yen was RM1 (normally that how I convert it mentally), milk only cost RM1.2 per litre couldn't afford to drink fresh milk frequently when I was doing my undergrad in KK, but here in JP, I can consume a litre of milk every two day

This post has been edited by quadcube: Oct 29 2017, 09:57 PM

cheese too

Yep - http://www.farmfresh.com.my/the-farm-fresh-story/
Expensive because supply and demand. Plus they have little competition in terms of local dairy farmers.
Their main competitors are imported milk. I think it's relatively easy to be profitable once you sort out the marketing & supply chain and streamline production.

To get reasonable prices for milk and cheese, more locals need to get into dairy farming. Competition always drive prices down (up to a point).

Just some random Googling:

Malaysia imports 95% of its milk needs but doesn’t develop local farmers for self sufficiency
https://rama4change.wordpress.com/2012/09/2...lf-sufficiency/

Gov't to set up board to milk M'sia's dairy industry potential
https://sir.nst.com.my/news/2017/03/219740/...ustry-potential

To comment on the NST:
Malaysian Dairy Board formation in 2018 is a start. Better late than never. The board itself is useless (only good for setting standards and theory work). In terms of implementatiotn, what they really need is an agricultural school (like this example) that focuses exclusively on dairy farming. Our dairy industry is at an infant stage, more skills/knowledge are needed than monetary investments. You need the school to churn out skilled farmers and farm helpers. This will help sustain the industry.

Not lactose intolerant meh? Most Asian cannot drink milk one

Malaysia doesn’t produce own dairy product.
You can thank NFC and Sharizat for failing to fix that.

dairy products expensive as a results of mismanaged country that unable to compete in terms of currency strength internationally. To say weaker currency is good for export is an lousy excuse.

In Australia standard price for milk is AUD1 per litre, which translates to RM3.40 per litre.

Sometimes I crave Malaysian food so I buy those premade spice mix = AUD2 per packet, translating to RM6.80 per packet. Over here, they are selling the same thing for RM5+, so only RM2 difference or AUD0.65.

For fruits, I pay AUD2.50(RM8) per kg for pink lady apples, say I'm feeling like buying nicer apples, Jazz apples sell for AUD4.50 (RM14.40) per kg.
Over here, apples are selling at least RM10 per kg.

Bananas AUD2(RM6.40) per kg (but its quite often that you can get them at AUD1[RM3.20) per kg].
Over here, roughly RM5 per kg.

Most of the things are cheaper and if they are more expensive its a few ringgit difference.
But at the same time, minimum wage is roughly AUD2,500(RM9k) a month, whereas you earn peanuts here and have much lower buying power.

so...

My house have this,

hmm, kena only once when I stopped drinking milk for a very long time, chugged down 1.5L of Desa milk and 15 minutes later, I was basically in the toilet

didn't know aussie so cheap also

Sorry i don't know. Thanks for filling me up.
I read that it's difficult but not impossible to raise cattle in tropics. So I guess if they can do it at lowlands, they can do it better at mountain area.

BR1M people don't eat butter, so butter got GST and is subject to weak currency.

Want cheap? eat planta or those bags of marjerine in plastics.