har.... whats the relation of cramp and high dense... i think your SG and KLTS for now should be the last of high dense projects of SCP... and going by units per block for their projects in the pipeline also unlikely to have higher density than those 2 old projects for now

atas gt mentioned ma... 681 units on 1.8 acre land... give or take lo.... u have near to MRT, freehold, lower density as a whole... like SG, leasehold, higher dense and no mrt connection... sure have to compensate with specs le... this is how all msian developer play with the numbers game anyway....

for me i dont look at density/acre... total units will be more important to me to gauge supply demand rather than density per acre... i dont care you got how big land... you got 2000 units on a 6 acre land means high competition already... i saw the sign board of this project... not by kenwingston... forgotten to take photo.... but in the end developer must be responsible for the quality... i visited SG and KLTS also... some of the units of SG memang alot defect as i seen the developer's completed units... KLTS my fren have one... overall i feel the quality acceptable for the pricing... but density... as long as more than 1000+ sharing one platform... maintenance gonna be super tough....

for me... the total units over 2 blocks just nice... i never bother about density per acre as mentioned above... haha... and come back to it... its about pricing... the good thing is this pricing comes with completion of the mrt line 2 compared to the rest in the area... and line 2 have direct access to KLCC east station.... and to be fair... got which KL project that launched these nearest 2 years... 2 rooms come with 2 car parks one? haha.. the only project i saw currently 2 rooms with 2 cp is traders garden by SCP but its at balakong...

This post has been edited by aaron1717: Jul 19 2019, 10:28 AM

yea... but investment point of view... im more concern on the competition itself... it doesnt matter how big your land size are... but 2000 units competition will always be significantly greater than 1000 units even the 1000 units are on a smaller land size... and in msian context... density/acre doesnt really translate into better quality of living... for example... KLTS 150 units/acre only... but the investment performance and living quality there doesn't seems to be on the better side... given 2550 units all sharing the same platform and facilities... maybe unit to unit u will feel better with wider corridor etc... but the usage of general facilities like pool and car parks etc... its a disaster... and haven't include about the high potential of lost of control towards non MF paying owners....

how many neighbor with similar size around this area... court 28 very low density... so not much competition... plus rica... total units offered in this area still lesser than KLTS alone... haha... and im emphasizing on small sizes units only... 3 rooms are for own staying... thats my investment baseline...

KLTS review is bad due to the issues i mentioned above... density.... but that kind of density bring prosperity to the shops downstairs... for me... if the development dont have mall or alot shoplots below... high density is not required... because high density will resulted in bad maintenance... during VP time... KLTS everything looks very good... and its all started after tenants and owners moved in... everything bcum shit from there due to wear and tear and msian mentality...

had one of their older project... so far so good... i wont buy their project if its high density (total units more than 1500)... as I know high density are always the main cause in bad maintenance and social problems etc... the benchmark u set is SG and KLTS which are both very high dense to me... and the subsequent social and maintenance problems come out of it is also due to the density itself...

zero down project is good if u know how to utilize it... but yea... usually alot lelong will come out from those project... because the buyers not ready for such commitment as they paid almost nothing to own a unit... other owners cant flip well as the valuation will be partially affected initially by the lelong units...

owh better than expected... developer staff tell me 6ft.... although its still more than basic guideline... but was expecting more....

msia market is a peculiar one bro... one man's poison maybe another man's meat... and location and accessibility do counts...

think SPA and loan disbursement no cover... but with this in HOC... also saved quite alot... plus its less than 6km to KLCC... the psf pricing quite attractive currently considering it completed in time with mrt line 2

lol high density... when they bought ekocheras themselves which is consider as low density development?

SCP style is always start build first sell later concept... and they are super cash rich... staff benefit and bonus not bad i heard... unless their projects which are high density... will always put their projects in priority watch-list...

haha... janji able to pay the buyers well... apa pun ok je bang.... car parks reli make a lot of cash for them....

the main road in front tung shin also not exactly forgivable.... lol... all these combinations add together... gg msia traffic...

then bro... give us your review on the big four factors around this area leh.... so far i worked nearby for 3 years during fresh grad.... the 1,2,4 all acceptable to me as conlanfirm passby here those timing u mentioned... 3 susah abit... this one need court 28 stayers review... anyway i saw quite alot students staying at court 28 also... surprisingly....

i think the current block they offer to sell will be best buy option if dont want durian smell or unexpected high-rise come out in front of condo... block A blocked the river for you... and another view is facing the sales gallery direction....

im still below 30 saje bro... lol... my fresh grad job i left maximum 3 years + ago je... anyway i still will passby this area on consistent basis due to major client is here... and bear in mind... the only thing change here is court 28 completion... and mrt station construction progress further je... major jalan ipoh road still same jam or worsen due to more projects completed along whole stretch jalan ipoh until selayang... dont tell me u wont wanna stay in an area just because its becoming more matured gua.... and anyway... new condo price now going to lower than 3 years ago

This post has been edited by aaron1717: Jul 25 2019, 09:07 AM

my experience with their lido residence gooding yo.... so there are good and bad out there... and is it 1500 owners in SG also feel their workmanship and design gt problem or just different requirements je? feb i go and see the SG 850sqft completed unit.... nett price i think around 530k nett.... is it lower than your time?

how about the pricing i mentioned is it lower than early bird purchasers? for a unit at level 40 i think....

actually i think its your SG overpriced... but thats to be fair SG selling at tail end of bull-run... so its inevitable... the price of SG is considered 'reasonable' during that time...

nowadays after the appearance of AK affordable... alot other new projects pull down their price to sell already... whether quality are compromised... we have to wait and see... as PV, MS and some mass market developers out there going to try to set sell-able pricing nowadays...

difference would be on the land acquisition cost too as SG land cost most probably kena goreng higher than this land... and construction cost for high density project sometimes would be higher too due to more cost incurred for the piling and structural works... so the margin for high density construction actually also might be lower but compensated with the sales volume... do look into construction cost accounting before relate all to quality/material reduction and of course the best is see hows the owners comment after completion.... and you ignore AP's comment on the sizing as well....

This post has been edited by aaron1717: Jul 30 2019, 09:35 PM