good days everyone.....

im having problem with my guard gated community (gcc).
we stayed at old taman area with mixture of bungalow, semi D and terrace house.
when we apply for the gcc, the idea is to implement some physical barrier to ensure our safety. majority signed in agreement for the gcc

however, after 2 years, the comittee suddenly decided to give car sticker only for the residents here,not to any family member living outside. i have siblings who stayed outside, just nearby who often visits us often, daily. Those who stayed outside, need to register themselves at the guard booth. i find this new changes rather discomfort for our family member esp those who is very close n regularly attend to visit us. Esp i have a sister who has backache n i cant imagine of her discomfort that has to go out everytime needa to come to my house, esp if raining season

the comittee gives a stupid reason which i still cant accept. they claimed that if they give sticker to family member those living outside, theres case where the car got stolen and never report to the guard. and the thief used the car to get into the taman n endanger the community. i told them.... thats is so rare case. we dont have to be too paranoid on rare case. if the resident faces the same scenario, got car stoled but never report n the thief used the car to go into this taman, there will be no different too as resident too may faces similar problem. they are worried a case who has probability of 1 out of 1 000 000

we have many arguement, n as far as i remember, i have never sign in agreement to allow this happen. no meeting done, although they claimed they did n has received majority vote, which i cant take note of it. i cant rememver any such matter arise when i come for meeting

my friend who work as lawyer told me, as long that my sibling ic address still in that taman, they are considered as resident. as resident u cant ve barred from entering. i try to look for specific law that mentioned it. anyone know?

i also try to complain to the authority of these attitude and samseng attitide.... but im worried the authrotiy will demolish the gcc. i want my family to be safe, at the same time i dont want any discomfort caused to my family member who regularly visit us. we are not strata, or new home area. we have live here for almost 40 years. i think watever regulation muat be vased on the custom practice here

This post has been edited by bani_prime: Oct 25 2017, 09:03 AM

I think your committee is quite reasonable in only giving out stickers to actual residents. There are people out there who would abuse the extra stickers. Have you tried convincing them that your family member actually stays with you?

This post has been edited by neoexcaliber: Oct 25 2017, 08:47 AM

I can only think of making duplicate stickers

in order for any elected people to have authority to self govern a gate community, they first need about 80% agreement from the total resident. usually this means 1 representative per household, NOT every available adult eligible to vote.

they do have the right to impose the registration-upon-entry rule to anyone who do not actually live there, your sister included. again, when majority rules, then minority has to follow. you have the right to voice out your issues, but the need of the many still outweighs the few.

what you need to do is to get more supporters to your cause. either get the committee to agree with your demands, or vote them down and install somebody sympathetic to your cause. if you complain to authority also no use, because gated communities have the right to self govern, and the majority have decided so.

in this case, you can shout about you not agreeing or whatever, but it wont change a thing. this is democratic control by inclusion.

sign in as visitor also susah?

Agreed. The committee explanation is reasonable, as the car sticker is for actual live-in residents. Family members who stays outside, is still an outsiders.

ts quite sohai actually. it's convenience vs. security. you rather your sibling inconvenient or you safer in a neighbourhood where the guards actually take their job seriously?

Go print shop make more stickers je...

Apa susah?

if frequent visit, guard will recognize face one la..then just let u pass....giv guard some time

>my friend who work as lawyer told me, as long that my sibling ic address still in that taman, they are considered as resident.

Press X to doubt. (X)

Joke aside. If like this, anyone can simple register themselves as a resident here, then this will put the real residents in danger. The committee is just doing their job, to protect their residents. Unless you tell your sibling to live together with you, then he will become the resident of the gcc.

>we have live here for almost 40 years. i think watever regulation muat be vased on the custom practice here

mate come on, if like this, then what if everyone start using this as reason to give out stickers to their relatives. Then whats the point of the sticker anymore?

If you think you're right, challenge them in court lo.

This post has been edited by SmallPenguin: Oct 25 2017, 08:56 AM

Sometime after u read the whole thing.. u also wonder if ts even think before posting

As long they are not one living in your house permanently, the committee have a very good reason know your sis as an visitor

Frequent visitor or so is still a visitor or in more rough term outsider. Unless she a resident

This

Anyways, last time I used to ferry friends back home. See my car in out so many times until no longer need to register at guard post.

Tis early morning already see shoot own foot thread

yes, these community many times syok sendiri.
one of my house in a small garden area and quite new less than 5 years old. The community decided to make guard house and force everyone to pay up and give max 2 sticker per house. reason for only 2 sticker is so that owner will not over parked their cars disturbing neighbor. obviously some will not be satisfied especially bigger family that has 3-4 cars. then they decided any extra sticker will cost rm50 and sticker will change yearly to make sure ppl pay for the guard service.

since i rented the house, my tenant refuse to pay for the guard nor the sticker because he already stay there before they implement the system and was not willing to pay extras. the community declare that anyone who stay there but do not have sticker will have to self lift up the boom gate prior to entering the area. This created a backlashed and some owner reported to police and mpsj. long story short, the boomgate is always lift up now except at midnight till morning.

the problem is.... when they want to get approval from mpk, such matter never got raised. we never thought our siblings who stay outside n regular visit has to be exempted. if we know early, i wont sign for approval

Think positively, your siblings have peace of mind when enter the guarded area without getting hurt. U have seen how robbers jump onto people leaving vehicle or lost of vehicle due to hijack.

That inconvenient could save lives.

This post has been edited by hackwire: Oct 25 2017, 09:01 AM

fear of abusing sticker....? tell me, how much such case happening alredy? its just their paranoid fantasy. why do we have to get worried on case that has probability 1 out of 1 000 000

This post has been edited by bani_prime: Oct 25 2017, 09:05 AM

or u can do something like dis, occasionally giv the guards some foods or drinks, then they will recognize u n ur sis n will let ur sis pass next time

my aunt used to do that

i think you are the stupid one... if someone abuse the sticker just like what you did and something happen, who is gonna be responsible? you think you will admit or push the blame to the security?

and you are so inconsiderate... if you know your sister is not well and you still have your sister come to your house daily? what kinda idiot are you? why dont you go to her house instead?

the gate does not guaratee one secutiry. it only reduce the risk n probability.

as i stated above, how much such abuse can has happened so far.? u want to get worried on case that has probability 1 among 1 000 000?

and of courae.... sister visit parent. not parent visit sister. im not alwys home, come late at night