Is it really good and safe to use?
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Oct 21 2017, 08:28 AM, updated 9y ago
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Is it really good and safe to use?
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Oct 21 2017, 11:42 AM
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i've been reading about sarms a few months ago. it supposed to work exactly like steroids without all the negative side-effects, you don't have to inject yourself like some drug addict and it requires no cycling... it sounds to good to be true for me. i'm skeptical.
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Oct 24 2017, 12:01 PM
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it comes in pill or liquid form. based on research and online reviews, it is safe to use with the same results as steroids but becareful because SARMS is not regulated by any health organisation so there are a lot of fake or placebo stuff out there disguised as SARMS.
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Oct 25 2017, 12:12 AM
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if youre planning to use it for shortcut to get a good bod with subpar lifting and diet routine and probably less than a year experience, have fun with a subpar and mediocre result at the expense of possible health issues
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Feb 20 2018, 08:55 AM
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I just bought a bottle. But afraid to start after some consideration.
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Feb 20 2018, 04:07 PM
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Feb 20 2018, 04:08 PM
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QUOTE(FrozenRay @ Feb 20 2018, 08:55 AM) It is chemical enhancement no matter how one justifies it. Anything which suppresses your testosterone levels is NOT natural and you will no longer be considered natty. And you need a small PCT after a course of SARMS. Kinda logical yes? |
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Feb 20 2018, 05:24 PM
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Feb 20 2018, 06:16 PM
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Since SARMs supress test alot anyway i rather run it on a cycle, replacing orals such as dbol, anadrol, tbol which have severe sides.
What i find appealing about sarms is them being androgenic / lipids side effects free except for supression. Wont run it standalone due to supression. This post has been edited by Armesh: Feb 20 2018, 07:26 PM |
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Feb 27 2018, 05:26 PM
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It does suppress testosterone but once you stop using it , the testosterone will go up on its own. That it is why SARMs tend to be used in a cylical way.
There are very limited researches on SARM especially on possible side effects from a long term basis. I did come across a couple of research papers where the SARMs benefited older people and those with cancer in clinical trials. Steroids, however, have known established long term side effects, which can be debilitating. |
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Mar 1 2018, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(dave82 @ Feb 27 2018, 05:26 PM) It does suppress testosterone but once you stop using it , the testosterone will go up on its own. That it is why SARMs tend to be used in a cylical way. No, with responsible use no.There are very limited researches on SARM especially on possible side effects from a long term basis. I did come across a couple of research papers where the SARMs benefited older people and those with cancer in clinical trials. Steroids, however, have known established long term side effects, which can be debilitating. Natural test also bounces back to normal even after a Nandrolone Decanoate cycle. |
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Mar 4 2018, 01:15 AM
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But why do you even need it?
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Mar 11 2018, 04:00 AM
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QUOTE(Armesh @ Mar 1 2018, 02:27 PM) No, with responsible use no. Are you a doctor?Natural test also bounces back to normal even after a Nandrolone Decanoate cycle. Or have you done proper peer reviewed research on those who take steroids responsibly and followed them up long term? Or do you have any peer reviewed published research to back up your claim that responsible use of steroids do not cause long term side effects? |
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Mar 11 2018, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(dave82 @ Mar 11 2018, 04:00 AM) Are you a doctor? They been around since the 1960s, widely used, and almost all sides are known.Or have you done proper peer reviewed research on those who take steroids responsibly and followed them up long term? Or do you have any peer reviewed published research to back up your claim that responsible use of steroids do not cause long term side effects? Not a "new" novel medicine. Like how Deca will cause heart ventricle thickening, and long term continuous can cause heart issues Like how Oxandrolone (Anavar) tottaly fucks your lipid, and keeping a horrible lipid profile long term can cause heart disease Like how DBOL highly converts to methyl estradiol and is very straining on the liver, so running 80mg for few months is a sure fire way to get jaundice & liver failure. Same for the painkillers you can buy OTC like ibuprofen/naproxen. Irresponsible long term use can cause stroke/internal bleeding! It's known. Be educated and use responsibly. This post has been edited by Armesh: Mar 11 2018, 11:34 AM |
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Mar 11 2018, 12:03 PM
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Mar 12 2018, 05:49 PM
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im kinda interested to know the result of SARMS..know a guy in insta dat sells them..
anyone here tried before...?.. |
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Mar 12 2018, 10:19 PM
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Mar 22 2018, 05:47 PM
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Go get Androgen Pharma or Pure science (they are trusted brand)
Do get the liquid dose to be safe. |
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Apr 19 2018, 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(kaka_89 @ Mar 12 2018, 05:49 PM) im kinda interested to know the result of SARMS..know a guy in insta dat sells them.. I bought a bottle of Bioscience Ostarine, the one that so many gym bros were selling on IG. I was searching for reviews for a long time, but couldn't find any for Bioscience specifically, although reviews for Ostarine in general seemed very positive. End of March, I decided to start an Ostarine only cycle, 25 mg each day, even though there were still no reliable reviews. I am now 3.5 weeks into the cycle. anyone here tried before...?.. My experience: - First few days: very vivid and continuous dreams at night, so when I woke up, I did not feel rested. However, other Ostarine users have reported this, so it seemed normal. - First two weeks: Nothing too noticeable, but the pumps did seem to last all day, which felt nice. Strength increased, but within what seems to be a normal range for me. I am trying to do a cut, but even though I reduced some carbs, I did not lose any fat. This might be due to me not cutting enough carbs from my diet. I did gain a minimum amount of muscle though, even though I cut total calories, so that was kind of cool too. Sex-wise everything was normal. - End of third week until today: I started to feel like there was slight suppression. Felt tired even though I had enough sleep; my eyes feel a bit strained. Mood was a bit low on Mon and Tues, but felt better yesterday and today. Importantly, I was starting to have difficulties getting an erection, which is not a problem I have ever had before. Body-wise, starting to lose some weight, and my body does feel tighter. I have never tried PEDs before. I value my health. The whole point of using SARMS is that there is supposed to be no or minimal suppression; you're supposed to be able to use this stuff for a 6-8 week cycle without feeling suppressed, and some people say there is no need for PCT (although others say you should still do it). And yet, I am undergoing some suppression (just based on symptoms and how I'm feeling) after only 3 full weeks on a low dosage. So either my body really cannot take any of this stuff, or the stuff I'm using isn't pure or of good quality, which is concerning because then you wonder what the hell it is you are actually taking and what it is doing to you. I have now decided to stop the cycle due to the above uncertainties. If anyone else has experience with Bioscience SARMS, would appreciate hearing about your experience. |
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Apr 25 2018, 12:34 PM
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For what? You competing? Making money off your bod?
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