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Armesh
post Feb 20 2018, 06:16 PM

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Since SARMs supress test alot anyway i rather run it on a cycle, replacing orals such as dbol, anadrol, tbol which have severe sides.

What i find appealing about sarms is them being androgenic / lipids side effects free except for supression.

Wont run it standalone due to supression.

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post Mar 1 2018, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(dave82 @ Feb 27 2018, 05:26 PM)
It does suppress testosterone but once you stop using it , the testosterone will go up on its own. That it is why SARMs tend to be used in a cylical way.
There are very limited researches on SARM especially on possible side effects from a long term basis. I did come across a couple of research papers where the SARMs benefited older people and those with cancer  in clinical trials.

Steroids, however, have known established long term side effects, which can be debilitating.
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No, with responsible use no.
Natural test also bounces back to normal even after a Nandrolone Decanoate cycle.
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post Mar 11 2018, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(dave82 @ Mar 11 2018, 04:00 AM)
Are you a doctor?
Or have you done proper peer reviewed research on those who take steroids responsibly and followed them up long term?
Or do you have any peer reviewed published research to back up your claim that responsible use of steroids do not cause long term side effects?
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They been around since the 1960s, widely used, and almost all sides are known.
Not a "new" novel medicine.

Like how Deca will cause heart ventricle thickening, and long term continuous can cause heart issues
Like how Oxandrolone (Anavar) tottaly fucks your lipid, and keeping a horrible lipid profile long term can cause heart disease
Like how DBOL highly converts to methyl estradiol and is very straining on the liver, so running 80mg for few months is a sure fire way to get jaundice & liver failure.

Same for the painkillers you can buy OTC like ibuprofen/naproxen. Irresponsible long term use can cause stroke/internal bleeding!

It's known. Be educated and use responsibly.

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post Mar 12 2018, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(kaka_89 @ Mar 12 2018, 05:49 PM)
im kinda interested to know the result of SARMS..know a guy in insta dat sells them..

anyone here tried before...?..
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Buy from reputable source.
You might get undosed shit or worse Anadrol/DBOL. That instagram bioscience stuff is sooooo sketchy.
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post Nov 30 2018, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(axtray @ Nov 29 2018, 03:03 PM)
Lol Ppl are taking this shit because they claimed that the side effects are supposedly lesser or near to none. However there are plenty of ppl that mentionsl suppression of natural test even though at low dose of Ostarine. So go figure. Don't get me started on the vision loss etc with some other version of it (check out Ryan Casey).

Not gonna point any fingers but when you've been working out consistently for few years, you should be able to tell who's on something and who's not.  rolleyes.gif
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Only S4 causes temporarily vission probems. Simple, avoid it.
Stick to LGD, RAD, Osta.

Yes they cause about 50% suppression. But they greatly lower SHBG giving you more free testosterone. So in the end you have same usable test in your system.

But LGD is very suppressive to the point even your free test will be lowered, even at 1mg.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4111291/


Ostarine doesn't lower free test.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3177038/
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no significant decreases in free testosterone were observed in men or women at any dose of GTx-024


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post Dec 3 2018, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(kob3bryant @ Dec 1 2018, 10:09 PM)
Hi

So would you still reccomend lgd4033 stacking with mk677? have you tried it before? if yes, which brand?
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No, MK677 with give you 0 muscle gains.
GH is more for nice skin, hair/nail growth, joint/tendon healing.
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post Dec 4 2018, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(kob3bryant @ Dec 3 2018, 10:11 PM)
so what kind of stacks are you using?
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Nothing. Im all natural.
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post Jun 14 2019, 05:56 PM

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QUOTE(kamikaze79 @ Jun 14 2019, 10:29 AM)
i tried GW for 4 weeks then i tried S4. when i start using GW ..i can see the changes..i was informed s4 side effects..so next 5th week i handle s4 with care. keep monitor my workout..its fine ..im now in 2nd week using s4. past few days, when woke up at morning.i can see black/yellow box in eye sigh.. its temporary..when i open light its gone. i use s4 for 5 days per week.. sarms is not safe. if u decide to use it..be careful.. dont go too much
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S4 is not safe. Use the correct terms.

Why the fuck do people use S4 anyway, when it's know clearly on the vision sides.

Just use LGD 4033 or RAD, they only have usual suppression sides.

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post Jul 24 2019, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(Garrygb @ Jul 23 2019, 02:44 PM)
Hi all. I have been researching SARM’s lately, specifically Ostarine and Cardarine, and think I am ready to take the plunge for a cutting cycle, currently sitting around 20% now. Wondering 1) has anyone given either a go bythemselves, and 2) any concerns over the cancer issue with Cardarine? I understand in the initial test mice displayed tumour growth, however that was unrealistic doses for humans, let alone rats. As someone who has had cancer in the past, it is quite important to me. Thanks everyone.
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Just stick to ostarine. No ned cardarine.
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post Jul 26 2019, 03:41 AM

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QUOTE(Armesh @ Nov 30 2018, 09:07 PM)
Only S4 causes temporarily vission probems. Simple, avoid it.
Stick to LGD, RAD, Osta.

Yes they cause about 50% suppression. But they greatly lower SHBG giving you more free testosterone. So in the end you have same usable test in your system.

But LGD is very suppressive to the point even your free test will be lowered, even at 1mg.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4111291/
Ostarine doesn't lower free test.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3177038/
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Just to correct addon my previous post.

I believe SARMS used in Bodybuilding dosages, e.g Ostarine at 25mg will totally crash your testosterone, producing similar suppression as anabolic steroids.
SARMS don't aromatize, so your Estrogen will also drop to 0.

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post Dec 4 2019, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(Amedion @ Dec 3 2019, 10:55 AM)
Yeah but u haven't include PCT.

You definitely must take PCT if u stack like that.
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SARMS are just like oral steroids without liver toxicity and less power, they still fully suppress HTPA once you hit Week 3.
So you need run Test at TRT dose (100mg/week) or HCG (900iu/week) with SARMS to have Test in your body.
Test is important to maintain normal E2 levels and other bodily functions.

E2 crash = joint pain

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post Dec 10 2019, 12:45 AM

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QUOTE(Amedion @ Dec 8 2019, 11:23 AM)
Only ostarine. I wouldn't go for anything higher as require PCT.
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Real men run Dbol
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post Dec 10 2019, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(Amedion @ Dec 10 2019, 09:03 AM)
Lol u run it first then and let me know.
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On!
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post Jun 11 2020, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(Amedion @ Jun 9 2020, 05:11 PM)
You know many things are safe to use until people gets impatient and overdo.
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All you need is 200mg TestE + 40mg Anavar/Turinabol. Safe, Simple.


QUOTE(Amedion @ Jun 9 2020, 06:31 PM)
Bought a pair of DB and Pull up bar. First week only then lazy. Totally different feeling compare to gym.

So 2months+ no workout already.

I see u bought urself a few stuff.
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I workout wayy better at home. Consistent gains.
Something about dressing up,walking to car, driving to the gym, and waiting for equipment just fucks my mood.

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post Aug 30 2020, 01:48 PM

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Grow up and do some Dbol.
Safer, Time Tested, FDA Approved, Sides known.... and effective!
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post Oct 14 2020, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(axtray @ Sep 7 2020, 09:33 PM)
my god.. and here i thought i've seen worse in reddit.  shakehead.gif
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Malaysia juicers, extra stupid.
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post Oct 21 2021, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(V3i HoN6 @ Apr 1 2021, 05:17 PM)
Sup. This is Derek from More plates more dates.
Which I like to call more plates for dates than last time.
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Very good channel to learn about anabolics.
Everyone should spend 6+ months watching his every video before ever touching anything.
But of course Malaysians are lazy and stupid. Just listen to abangs at gym easier.

QUOTE(Matty mad @ Oct 16 2021, 12:28 AM)
Idk where but i saw you duggested anavar. Can you suggest which anavar i should go with? I mean which supplier or any link thwt would help
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I dunno man. Just dun buy anything from Shopee. No I never buy it before.
Oxandrolone is one of the most expensive anabolics gram per gram. So its faked alot.
For women you will need be extra careful to make sure its real.
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post Dec 20 2021, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(ZforZebra @ Dec 20 2021, 03:33 PM)
Do you have any idea who sell original turkesterone in malaysia?
Greg doucette sells it. Not sure if i buy from him, will kena stop by kastam or not.
Its some natural stuff found in spinach etc etc.
Just like creatine found in red meat
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Don't waste your money on that turkesterone trash.

 

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