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JerryTeh
post Oct 16 2017, 07:08 PM

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so the reason why can not use the word allah is secret?
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post Oct 16 2017, 07:10 PM

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post Oct 16 2017, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Oct 16 2017, 02:07 PM)
El or Ealah
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post Oct 16 2017, 07:16 PM

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Non-muslims shouldn't comment on Islamic affairs, so they always say.

But Christians are dictated on what words to be used or not to be used....

Funny...

Next time, use back the same argument on them

Yang bukan Kristian, jangan komen.
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post Oct 16 2017, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Oct 16 2017, 07:16 PM)
Non-muslims shouldn't comment on Islamic affairs, so they always say.

But Christians are dictated on what words to be used or not to be used....

Funny...

Next time, use back the same argument on them

Yang bukan Kristian, jangan komen.
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post Oct 16 2017, 07:17 PM

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QUOTE(oghe kito @ Oct 16 2017, 06:56 PM)
The Christian context of using Allah is not the same as the Muslim's context of using it. For Christians they just use it as a title for God as used by Arab Christians for hundreds of years and also by the East Malaysians even before the formation of Malaysia.  It is not used by ALL Christians in Malaysia but just those from the  East Malaysia who are Malay speaking or those who use BM exclusively like the Orang Asli. The reason Malay speaking Christians use Allah just as a title and not as a personal name for God because the God of the Bible already has a personal name - Yahweh. That is His name forever as is written in Exodus 3:15 which means the great I AM. That is His personal name. This Yahweh has NOTHING to do with the Allah of the Koran. Allah is not a title but the personal name of the god of the Koran which incidentally pre-existed Islam. There are too many theological differences between the God of the Bible and the god of the Koran. For starters the God of the Bible loves the Jews and the nation of Israel but the god of the Koran does not. The God of the Bible has a Son and the god of the Koran does not. The God of the Bible is a Father to the nation of Israel and to all people in general but the god of the Koran is a father to none. The highest relationship between a Muslim and Allah is that of a Master - Slave.

Christians know that when they call their God in the BM language they are only referring to the God of the Bible only and NEVER to the Allah of the Koran. They only use the word as a title and not as a personal name.
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post Oct 16 2017, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Oct 16 2017, 07:16 PM)
Non-muslims shouldn't comment on Islamic affairs, so they always say.

But Christians are dictated on what words to be used or not to be used....

Funny...

Next time, use back the same argument on them

Yang bukan Kristian, jangan komen.
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We did during the Herald court case. The reply was Ini negara Islam and must follow their ways, along those lines. That was when PERKASA was at the forefront of the ultra malays. Now ISMA and PAS gang replace them.

Now whenever they say "Jgn campur hal Islam' on hudud , RU355, I bring up the Allah issue, on the 30 or so words nons cannot use under their Syariah law.

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post Oct 16 2017, 07:31 PM

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QUOTE(oghe kito @ Oct 16 2017, 06:56 PM)
The Christian context of using Allah is not the same as the Muslim's context of using it. For Christians they just use it as a title for God as used by Arab Christians for hundreds of years and also by the East Malaysians even before the formation of Malaysia.  It is not used by ALL Christians in Malaysia but just those from the  East Malaysia who are Malay speaking or those who use BM exclusively like the Orang Asli. The reason Malay speaking Christians use Allah just as a title and not as a personal name for God because the God of the Bible already has a personal name - Yahweh. That is His name forever as is written in Exodus 3:15 which means the great I AM. That is His personal name. This Yahweh has NOTHING to do with the Allah of the Koran. Allah is not a title but the personal name of the god of the Koran which incidentally pre-existed Islam. There are too many theological differences between the God of the Bible and the god of the Koran. For starters the God of the Bible loves the Jews and the nation of Israel but the god of the Koran does not. The God of the Bible has a Son and the god of the Koran does not. The God of the Bible is a Father to the nation of Israel and to all people in general but the god of the Koran is a father to none. The highest relationship between a Muslim and Allah is that of a Master - Slave.

Christians know that when they call their God in the BM language they are only referring to the God of the Bible only and NEVER to the Allah of the Koran. They only use the word as a title and not as a personal name.
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Jews lost its special status when they started to defy God's messengers, including John and Jesus. Why God love a group of people who believe that Mary is a prostitute and Jesus will be in hell and boiled in excrement?

Master - Slave relationship iin Qur'an is often seen is a shallow manner, like a human slavemaster and his slaves. It actually emphasizes on the complete authority of God and the complete submission to God of everything from the biggest stars to the smallest sub-atomic particles. Being completely submitted to God is a special status, including having an adherence to the original God's Law and values of absolute monotheism.
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post Oct 16 2017, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(oghe kito @ Oct 16 2017, 07:31 PM)
Lets see what one high level Imam has to say about the same fiasco. This is an Islamic leader from another country saying this. https://youtu.be/SOv_Q12qgRM
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QUOTE(amxpayne67 @ Oct 16 2017, 02:04 PM)
Allah is god in arabic right?

what is god in Aramaic language?
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The Aramaic word for "God" in the language of Assyrian Christians is Ĕlāhā, or Alaha.
Arabic-speakers of all Abrahamic faiths, including Christians and Jews, use the word "Allah" to mean "God".
The Christian Arabs of today have no other word for "God" than "Allah".
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post Oct 16 2017, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(oghe kito @ Oct 16 2017, 06:56 PM)
The Christian context of using Allah is not the same as the Muslim's context of using it. For Christians they just use it as a title for God as used by Arab Christians for hundreds of years and also by the East Malaysians even before the formation of Malaysia.  It is not used by ALL Christians in Malaysia but just those from the  East Malaysia who are Malay speaking or those who use BM exclusively like the Orang Asli. The reason Malay speaking Christians use Allah just as a title and not as a personal name for God because the God of the Bible already has a personal name - Yahweh. That is His name forever as is written in Exodus 3:15 which means the great I AM. That is His personal name. This Yahweh has NOTHING to do with the Allah of the Koran. Allah is not a title but the personal name of the god of the Koran which incidentally pre-existed Islam. There are too many theological differences between the God of the Bible and the god of the Koran. For starters the God of the Bible loves the Jews and the nation of Israel but the god of the Koran does not. The God of the Bible has a Son and the god of the Koran does not. The God of the Bible is a Father to the nation of Israel and to all people in general but the god of the Koran is a father to none. The highest relationship between a Muslim and Allah is that of a Master - Slave.

Christians know that when they call their God in the BM language they are only referring to the God of the Bible only and NEVER to the Allah of the Koran. They only use the word as a title and not as a personal name.
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You seem very knowledgeable about the issue. Just out of interest, given that Allah is a title for Christians, how would you translate Deuteronomy 10:17 into Malay?

For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who is not partial and takes no bribe.
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QUOTE(amxpayne67 @ Oct 16 2017, 03:04 PM)
Allah is god in arabic right?

what is god in Aramaic language?
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post Oct 16 2017, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(oik66 @ Oct 16 2017, 07:52 PM)
You seem very knowledgeable about the issue. Just out of interest, given that Allah is a title for Christians, how would you translate Deuteronomy 10:17 into Malay?

For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great, the mighty, and the awesome God, who is not partial and takes no bribe.
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During that time your God existed yet?
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post Oct 16 2017, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(quartre88 @ Oct 16 2017, 07:54 PM)
Aramatii
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post Oct 16 2017, 07:55 PM

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post Oct 16 2017, 07:56 PM

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QUOTE(Lancewood @ Oct 16 2017, 08:54 PM)
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post Oct 16 2017, 08:11 PM

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Cannot allow, and can't tell you why. Can't think of any reason why this should be considered OSA though.
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post Oct 16 2017, 08:14 PM

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ermm....if u ask middle East Muslims about this issue.
they will laugh non stop
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