That is not fair, I can't sing like you, I am out of tunes... Plus, we both knows you knows more about the songs...

air_mood, so how? you rackon you can gaather some players from your thread for this tribute game? Do let us know, I am eyeing the date 15th of Feb as 8th is still CNY and many would not be available. You keen? If everything is ok, then we'll proceed to book the courts.
Since this is a Man U tribute, we'll let you guys wear red while we'll come in white (most probably).
Please let us know early so we can book the courts first.

This weekend, I am not playing, working, but the boys will be playing. Perhaps you can talk to your boys fir the match, let us know in here. Thanks mate.

Can you do us a favour and put it up your thread and ask someone to take over? I posted there today and the thread went dead for like an hour, I am seriously worried now...

Had a lot to say regarding the above posts, but then again, why bother, if you can't fathom why we are passionate about our club, then why you comr in here? We don't go to you "girls only" thread and shout abuse at you. Perhaps air_mood is right, you're just an ignorant cnut who doesn't respect other's and the other's opinion. And who knows, you might have a troubled childhood, or even isolated by football friends.

According to some of the posts which I couldn't be arsed to go through, we are all victims of this TV generated idiots who bought into the league because we are dumb. Yeah, we are, please tell me you DO NOT watch TV and would sit at home to recite prayers or write manuals on how to do whatever. As someone pointed out, the thread title says, REAL football fans, if you can fathom the idea, then leave the thread, no one asked you to come in, you came in here and couldn't understand what the fuss is going on and trust me you'll never do, then keep quiet and get the feck out, simple as that, if you want to post something, at least have the decency or respect to say that you're not a football fan and could not understand the fuss,you'll gain respect with that, instead, coming in shooting your moouth or finger off would not get you any respect.

To -Y-, perhaps your command of the language wasn't that strong, perhaps you are a bit confused, but all being said and done, we just could not understand how can someone can support 2 teams, and proclaim the dying love for both, just like saying "I love my wife but I love that woman who has big boobs too"... It's your decision, I accept it, but not necessary respect that. Also, we are not bullying you, just voicing our thoughts, if you're offended, I am sorry, from the bottom of me heart.

And to others who come in here merely to flame or cause trouble, FECK OFF CNUT!!!

Just read the whole thing again, in a calmer manner, the thing is that many would not understand the culture and they would never be. just leave it as that, if you felt left out, then perhaps you want to ask a few question, remember mate, this is FOOTBALL LOUNGE, not BE A CNUT LOUNGE, if you don't understand and can't understand what the fuss it is all about I suggest you leave it as that. On that matter, I have a mate who grew up in the vacinity of Highbury and would never step a foot in as he doesn't understand the fuss, he told me he loved football days because he gets extra onions on the burger at the stalls, that's all.

Also, we are not ganging up one anmyone here, I have not met air_mood, and just found out that he is just a young bloke that knows his stuff (by the way, you're younger than me youngest sister), the thing is that -Y- doesn't make half a sense with his post, as I suggested, he might be confused or bought into the media propoganda and just see it as it is, all this while having a career (succesful I hope, because I'd hate it if it is otherwise).

Look what I'm trying to say is to each his own, fine you support 2 or 3 clubs we thinkit's weird and cannot fathom that, you think it's normal, great, go on your merry way and not act like some higher being for supporting 2 clubs like it is the right thing to do, to you it might be, but to us it is not. Simple as that...

National teams? I personally supported Australia as I lived there for 6 years and having wore the green and gold in another sport representing them in the World University Games and another tournament, I feel more connected to them than any other National team...

Does that mean you would like a continuation of the discussion? You sure you won't run around to the corner sulking that we don't respect you / bully you / treat you like shit?

I am not too sure about it meself... Let's see what other arguements this issue brings up.

I didn't represent them in football or futsal, but another sport, Taekwondo. That;s why I'd support them in rugby, cricket, football or saussage tossing contest. Aussie through and through...

Took it right out of me mouth...

Looks like it is getting out of hand here. -Y- & shah_ho_nam, I think you guys are taking things a little too personal here. The thing with football lounge is that you have to come in and show your worth and then respect will be given to you. There's no point going around asking others to respect you while mouthing off childish retorts and at the same time taking the arguement to a personal level. It is uncalled for, to bring out other things than football to mock or argue about. It has nothing to do with race, education, income level, even gender. As long as you know your football and can back up what you say, people will listen to you here.

Clearly many of us cannot understand how can a person who'd support 2 clubs wholeheartedly, perhaps we can't do it, you can and good for you, the thing is that you haven't backed it up with proper arguement rather than the respect other's opinion rants. I would suggest that both of you take a bit of a break, think about what are you going to write and back it up properly, who knows if you talk a good game, you might even gain the respect here, rather than being the joke that is at the moment.

Many of us would only support a club and not look at another club in even another league, we might admire the way another team plays or another player that is good, but everytime they play my team, I'd want them to lose and get slaughtered. Appreciating good football and admiring other team is slightly different from suporting both teams. I thought you guys were clouded between the two but I was clearly wrong, you DO support both teams, or 3 teams. With a common theme in it, Gabriel Batistuta for -Y-. Perhaps you like the player more than the team, therefore you'd like the team to do well too, I don't know I am just speculating here.

For you info, Gabriel Batistuta is one of the players I have a lot of respect for, who stuck by Fiorentina even when they got relegated to Serie B, for someone like him, it's not hard to find another team who'd take him in a flash, his love for the team and the fans is too great to walk away. Even when he left for Roma, he told the team that he would like to win the league and if the team had the chances to, he would stay and fight for it, but they weren't in that position and the fans actually cheered him on and wished he'd win the league with Roma. His status as a Fiorentina legend were cemented when he scored the only goal in one of the games against Fiorentina that season and refused to celebrate, instead he walked back to the centre circle, with tears in his eyes, very clearly to be seen by all in the ground and around the world watching on TV. I have outmost respect for players like that. Another one is Dennis Law who scored the goal to relegate Man U whole playing for Man City and had tears in his eyes while doing so. That doesn't mean I support Man U or Man City, I admire them certain qualities in the team, player or success on the pitch. I hope you get my drift and not launch into one of your now infamous rants that is, quite frankly, a little hard to understand.

Please understand I am not trying to rile you up or anything, just trying to get a better perspective of the whole situation and hopefully get a proper reply and reasoning from you rather than shooting your mouth off pissing a lot of people off. Unless that is the original intention of yours, then I suggest you reconsider coming into this place as not to disturb the others. If your intention is to discuss and argue about football, trust me, air_mood and I had countless arguements about all things football, then you are welcomed here with open arms, as long as you back your arguements up with proper facts and thoughts.

NOt really 8 paragraph, but I think that'll do for now...

You ain't seen nothing yet mate... I have my reputation as a long winded one.

Actually I do enjoy the "battle" with the person, not sure about others, call me sick but everytime I read his post, makes me laugh so hard that it actually destress me a little.

I thought the issue is dead?

To be honest, as mentioned by a few people, one is entitled to their own opinion. The fact is that we, myself and air_mood do not understand how can someone can support two teams, perhaps I am not that enlighten or I am just a narrow minded fool compare to them who can see the brighter side of things.

However, I think it started when air_mood mentioned how he can't fathom why one can do that, albeit in a tone that not everyone understands, I see it as sarcasm, others might take it in the literal meaning, therefore took offense to it. And then it just blew up when Y & Sha just went on this abusive streak offending everyone, bringing out matters that is not being discussed here, which I think is uncalled for.

Anyway, all said and done, what I'd like to say is that please do keep the arguement relevant and not birng out issues such as education, family, upbringing as well as other things, these are things that would ruin a good discussion / arguement. As mentioned to both Y and Sha, it's their inability to justify or present a good arguement that makes us think they are posers, rather than the fact that they supports two teams.

This post has been edited by Jonno: Jan 23 2008, 09:07 PM

Agreed, by the way, if they are 27. 28 then I have nothing to say. Their behaviour beffles me.

While not giving me age away, my youngest sister is older than you mate, so I am one of the old farts...

Damn it, shouldn't have put it there...

OMG, this is so fcuking out of hand now...

I give up, I am now a fan of Liverpool, Terengganu, Ajax Amsterdam, Valencia, Fiorentina, Hertha Berlin, Go Ahead Eagles, Al Ittihad, Nagoya Grampus Eight, Gaylang United, Melbourne Victory and a few others.

Good move...

To me, a real fan would not back down when the team / player is not giving their / his best on the field and would make it known to them. However, they would always back them up when the "others" diss the player or team. It's one of those things.

What happened here?