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 LYN F1 V15 Season, Continuation from V14 2017

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post Sep 13 2022, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Sep 13 2022, 05:52 PM)
I think numbers of wins in a season is just statistics. The WDC matters more in the end. Schumi may not have as many wins as Lewis but he's still 7 times WDC. When Max won his 7th WDC then those ppl will start comparing other records to justify he's the GOAT. No biggie really...
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I know but that's not my point in my post above. I'm questioning head to head in the same car, you think LH will win double than MV?? You regard so highly of LH or so lowly of MV??

Even WDC is just stats, that's why I don't consider either MS or LH as the GOAT.
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post Sep 14 2022, 08:46 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Sep 14 2022, 12:27 AM)
You'll never get them both in the same car, who bother to scratch your head over it? Besides there's just too many factors affecting the outcome of a race which ultimately decided a championship.

I don't really want to compare them like that. Drivers are not robots, their performance are affected by other factors like age, mentality and fitness. Given how Lewis has struggled with W13 in the beginning of the season, it's hard to say how much was it down to car and how much was it down to his age (coping with the porpoising). You probably could say GR would have beaten Max in the same car given the race outcome that he achieved with the broken W13 early in the season. Nothing is certain until you get them in the same car and race it out.

Other than that, it's merely pot calling kettle black and vice versa.
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Actually I am not until I read that comment which objectively as a neutral fan of F1 (neither LH or MV or any other current driver fan) I find absurd and fanboyish!
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post Sep 14 2022, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(outpace @ Sep 14 2022, 01:01 AM)
IMHO, the strongest and most consistent drivers on the race days are MV LH FA
Sometimes LN

but guarantee that these 3 would not be in the same team.
That Red Bull is tailored made for MV perhaps or is he simply that fast? Would not know,

hope we can add this name Nyck de Vries in soon.

who did I miss out?  laugh.gif
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I'd say a bit of both, RB is fast and tailored for MV while MV himself is fast too, surely faster than most. The way I usually see it is where the 2nd driver standings at the end of the year. If the 2nd driver is also 2nd then the car is really more dominant cuz the the team also would have won the title with the 2nd driver. If the 2nd driver us further down and beaten by other team drivers, then you can say the 1st driver skill somewhat makes the difference to win.

QUOTE(dickybird @ Sep 14 2022, 01:58 AM)
GR drove the W11 in 2020 as stand in for lulu and came within an engine failure of winning a Grand Prix first time out.
Shows you how easy the car was to drive even for someone not usually in the team.
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If at the end of this year GR still finished shead of LH, this will be the 3rd time LH got beaten by team mates.

QUOTE(dickybird @ Sep 14 2022, 09:02 AM)
Too early to tell for De Vries. He was in the points because some of the faster cars had to take place penalties.
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Agree, cuz as MV said, NL is not a good benchmark anyway. He might get another chance in SG. But I'd say he can compete in F1, just have to see how really good he is.
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post Sep 14 2022, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(4WD_er @ Sep 14 2022, 11:07 AM)
I was saying LH was as good as MV, if not better.  So if one has the same car as the other, you will see the wins split up.

In another word, I am telling the Orange fans not to worship MV  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Well in that case you incorrectly wrote your previous statement cuz you said if LH in SP car, MV would not win even half of his 11 (meaning max 5 wins) in the season (meaning 22 race calendar).

Anyway if that's what you actually mean then fine, still makes sense.
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post Sep 14 2022, 12:16 PM

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F1 is still tinkering with reverse grid?! Sigh...

https://www.crash.net/f1/news/1012239/1/f1-...g-reverse-grids
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post Sep 14 2022, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Sep 14 2022, 01:24 PM)
So? Did he won? LOL... Mercedes engine is bullet proof back then and he cant even take it home. I have nothing against GR. Yeah, he's fast but also inconsistent at the same time. If he learned to tone it down, he would be a much better racer. Just look at GR race pace when he's ahead of Lewis vs when he's behind Lewis. He needs to tone down his aggresion, and stop over driving. Learn to rub in tyres after pit stop before pushing it.
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For GR, I think have to wait until year end if he could really stay ahead of LH. If he does, have to give credit to him, doesn't mean he is better than LH but surely he is a force to be reckoned with if he can keep LH behind in the standings within a 22 race calendar. But subsequently he might end up like DR who stormed in RB by beating SV but now look how bad he is.

QUOTE(Aydee @ Sep 14 2022, 02:54 PM)
The last (very) good luck Ferarri had was when Kimi won the Championship for them, his chances was very slim but he won nonetheless. If good luck was with them the years since, I have no doubt Alonso, Vettel would have won a few championships with them, maybe some more with Kimi too.
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Kimi was lucky that Mclaren imploded with the clash of FA vs LH. That year should have been won by FA if not for the Hungary fiasco.
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post Sep 15 2022, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Sep 14 2022, 11:42 PM)
Lewis is counting his days in F1. Yeah, he is still fast but he basically had nothing to prove anymore other than winning 8th title (or 9th depending how you look at AD21). GR is young and eager but his race pace isn't really that good which should be a concern. I don't care if GR beat Lewis in the standings at the end of the year. The guy he should be aiming to beat is Max or Charles.

As for FA, honestly, as much as I was still a Ferrari fans back then, I never like FA at all. I think Lewis was outstanding on his debut year although I didnt like him either since MSC just retired. I was surprised that FA lose his cool with Lewis. I celebrated when FA failed to defend his title (partly also because still supporting Ferrari and Kimi) and subsequently went back to Renault. Absolutely hated it when Massa was denied a title next year because of Singapore2008. Although FA said he's innocent, I don't buy his story at all.
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Well beating your team mate, which in GR case a high caliber one, should be quite significant cuz it's the only direct competition in the same car and team. MV and CL are in different cars so there's an excuse layer there. But yes he still has a lot to improve further and still got years ahead of him to do so.

Yup LH was outstanding in his rookie year, able to trouble FA who was the big dog back then after beating MS. I did support FA when he was beating MS cuz I never liked MS. Lol But I was also happy Kimi won, cuz I like him too due to the cool no BS character. As for Massa losing the title, it's only by 1 point so it can be from anything. The Crashgate was only indirectly impact Massa race result but ultimately it's Ferrari mistake in executing the pit stop.


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post Sep 21 2022, 09:24 AM

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Next season calendar is 24 races!
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post Sep 21 2022, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(Aydee @ Sep 21 2022, 09:46 AM)
I'm not racing, I already feel tired.
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Hahaha yeah, they replace France with China and add Vegas, so now got 3 US races, the most of any countries! They really want to expand the US market.
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post Sep 21 2022, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(aplio500 @ Sep 21 2022, 11:45 AM)
IINM F1 already tweaked race time & day for Las Vegas
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Vegas will be on Saturday US time, so we watch on Sunday.
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post Sep 21 2022, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Sep 21 2022, 03:25 PM)
Liberty is US company ma hahahaha
Hahahaha

I thought classic 80s F1 used 2 have 4 US races in 1 calendar laugh.gif
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Yes Liberty is US company, that's why.

Cannot recall when F1 got 4 US races in a calendar. I know used to have Detroit then Phoenix but what else? I think never all in the same year also.
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post Sep 21 2022, 04:58 PM

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I know he's retired but this story of how Kimi was off track is just hillarious, courtesy of his engineer in Mclaren days. Kimi might not be as great as some other champs but he was indeed a unique stand out character in F1 history! Lol

https://www.planetf1.com/news/kimi-raikkone...ories-blue-dye/
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post Sep 23 2022, 09:20 AM

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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Sep 22 2022, 07:08 AM)
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It's true?
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No, no credible reports yet.
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post Sep 24 2022, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Sep 23 2022, 07:14 PM)
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Now this is OFFICIAL! Who will be their next driver? The Honey badger?
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It's about time.

QUOTE(EroS @ Sep 23 2022, 08:01 PM)
I hope Mick gets the seat though.
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Err why?
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post Sep 24 2022, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(EroS @ Sep 24 2022, 01:21 PM)
Hmmm.. Don't know how to put it but I believe Mick deserve a fresh start with a new team.

Sign him for a year (or two), if it doesn't work out then Williams can drop him.
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There's an article saying similar but I think he's just not fast enough and he easily got a F1 seat due to his name. He got beaten and now still barely able to match the previously ousted KMag shows that he's average at best. In the junior formula, he was also barely able to win the title and actually never really a stand out driver, often beaten on pure pace by others. I think to be good in F1, usually they were dominating the junior categories
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post Oct 1 2022, 10:39 PM

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CL lucky got pole, should've easily been MV.

Wet driving really magnifies the difference between the real top talents with the rest: CL much faster than CS, LH much faster than GR, and MV much faster than SP.
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post Oct 2 2022, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Oct 1 2022, 11:23 PM)
Tight street circuit, which one you place your bet on MV on podium/winning/out of Top 4 for tomorrow?
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Podium would be easy for him, winning could be 50/50. If tomorrow is wet again, 70% chance he could win it with LH as his main challenger.
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post Oct 2 2022, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Oct 2 2022, 08:46 AM)
i think if today rain again, we have chance to see others as winner instead of max. if dry, 99% max.
you can see how fast was max during that last qualifying when the track was dry. too bad not enough fuel
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In the wet his speed is actually much higher than most and he could get up to speed much quicker too. He was fast when track already drying BUT still got damp patches which actually made it more tricky as they're already on slick. That's where his natural talent gives a bigger advantage. All the top champs like Senna, MS, and LH were excellent in wet and tricky conditions, way above the rest and it seems MV too getting into this category.

QUOTE(voscar @ Oct 2 2022, 11:58 AM)
Then I would place my bet against all odds... I would like him to lost patience couldn't overtake the slow runner in front, then crashes out of the race with his own mistake for the first time this season, hehe.
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I hope so too! Lol
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post Oct 2 2022, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Oct 2 2022, 01:55 PM)
Not saying he's not good in wet conditions but that last lap, he was flying...really flying way above the rest. So, i think in dry condition, he's quite untouchable. Was hoping that in wet, he might need to control abit that beast machine
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In normal dry his advantage will shrink. In the wet or changing conditions, his delta over the rest is bigger. He was flyimg cuz:
1. He was the last doing the run, so ths track was at the best/dryest compared to others' runs.
2. He took more risk on the damp patches, yet his skill able to manage it.

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post Oct 2 2022, 11:18 PM

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Excellent race by SP while MV surprisingly has a very messy race as well as LH. Hopefully SP retains his win cuz he truly did great. CL is a bit underwhelming while CS was simply lack luster.

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