Double DNF for Ferrari! There goes the race and the titles I think.
LYN F1 V15 Season, Continuation from V14 2017
LYN F1 V15 Season, Continuation from V14 2017
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Jun 12 2022, 07:44 PM
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Double DNF for Ferrari! There goes the race and the titles I think.
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Jun 12 2022, 08:05 PM
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Jun 12 2022, 08:52 PM
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Ferrari and CL now is closer to Mercs and GR than to RB. Lol
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Jun 12 2022, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Jun 12 2022, 09:15 PM) I really hope Ferrari can fix their issue, not only car but their strategy and communication as well. They need near 0 error and issue to be able to compete with RB. Yeah for the sake of the season, we need Ferrari to strike back strongly ASAP but seems unlikely. Next 2 tracks are fast ones with longer straights favouring RB. Then Austria could be 50/50, and France another fast track. Ferrari will be on the back foot for the next 4 races not to mention engine penalties looming for later. May need some DNFs again from MV.Man, just a few races ago CL was 46 pts ahead and now 34 pts behind! What a swing into RB direction. This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Jun 13 2022, 12:12 AM |
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Jun 13 2022, 08:49 AM
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jun 12 2022, 11:28 PM) lewis and russell probably gonna sit out canada gp? ouch thats bad GR would race and LH said he also will race next week but yeah he looked in much pain after comimg out of the car.but cant agree with toto something needs to be done by FIA, some complain but seems merc the only one that is bouncing the worst until now he probably need to admit their idea dont work not come out with some tough words |
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Jun 14 2022, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(voscar @ Jun 13 2022, 04:28 PM) 1. William 90's Williams actually not so dominant in the 90s. 90-91 McLaren still won then 92-93 only Williams totally ruled but then 94-95 got beaten by Benetton before winning again in 96-97 and that's the end of it after beaten by Mclaren again in 98-99.2. Ferrari - 2000's 3. Red Bull - 2010-2013 4. Mercedes -2014-2020 5. Red Bull - 2021-2024 minimum Fixed. Actually last year Red Bull almost sweeping most races with their super straight-line speed, Max no doubt would be champion earlier if not hit by Hamilton and Bottas on 2 races. The dire Mercedes has to resort to overboosting their engine or modified rear wing to have rocket speed to kept the championship alive after Mexico. |
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Jun 14 2022, 08:39 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jun 14 2022, 04:03 PM) Just saw some videos on reddit... seems like the Lewis's Mercedes is bouncing a lot even before the straights. Great save by LH but obviously that lost him top speed. I can understand how tough it must have been for him in that race but I still agree with Horner and the aeticle in PlanetF1, it's up to Mercs to solve it, NOT FIA to revise the rule!https://www.reddit.com/r/F1Technical/commen...t_him_into_the/ https://twitter.com/revvinuk/status/1535985843239800833 Slow-mo of Mercedes floor scrubbing the tarmac in Baku vs RB... |
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Jun 16 2022, 01:07 PM
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CL engine cannot be salvaged so trouble at ferrari in the 2nd half as they would surely need a 4th or even 5th engine, meaning 2 grid penalties are looming in this season.
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Jun 16 2022, 08:21 PM
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QUOTE(4WD_er @ Jun 16 2022, 05:49 PM) Wah 7%, that's a lot! Very good of him, he is following his idol to help the less fortunate. RalphRatedR liked this post
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Jun 17 2022, 10:16 AM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jun 17 2022, 01:02 AM) They can get a couple new engine and then turn the damn thing up. Still can salvage 2nd or 3rd depending on circuit. Well looking how Ferrari often screws up themselves, that seems a big uphill battle, especially now CL is already down 34pts. Furthermore CS seems hopeless in stealing points away from MV, unlike SP. |
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Jun 17 2022, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE(voscar @ Jun 17 2022, 10:51 AM) Problem is Ferrari's PU seems to be more fragile, when they started turn the thing up in Barcelona, even with fresh second PU combo Leclerc already failed to complete the race! Ferrari needs CS to do some "Bottas" to MV to bring back CL into contention like LH last year! LolLast year Mercedes's spicy engine mode at least can sustain 2-3 race distances... I think Ferrari can only tune back their engine as in initial races, and hope to be competitive in non-power demanding tracks like Monaco etc, but still they can throw away the wins in strategy call, lol voscar liked this post
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Jun 17 2022, 03:08 PM
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Jun 18 2022, 08:18 PM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jun 18 2022, 05:20 PM) Kinda love it though... I think they have to solve it. Nawh I don't agree with std floor or whatever to eliminate porpoising. It's Mercs problem they cannot solve it without sacrificing further their performance. I fully agree with Horner on this.I mean when Mercedes having fun with party mode, then FIA came and took it away with standardised ecu. They get DAS but then it got banned. If majority of the field is suffering from porpoising, then FIA might as well standardised a working floor that wont porpoise. This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Jun 18 2022, 08:21 PM voscar liked this post
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Jun 19 2022, 01:31 AM
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CL takes new engine so drop to the back of the grid!
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Jun 19 2022, 02:07 PM
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Jun 20 2022, 01:15 AM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jun 19 2022, 06:14 PM) Too bad about 2007 then. If only Ron didn't favour his favourite boy, we might not get Mercedes domination for the past 8 years. MSC could be adding more to his 7th titles. Alonso should've won 2007 title if not for the Hungary fiasco instigated by LH. MS no chance anymore.QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Jun 19 2022, 11:23 PM) Brawn brought Schumi to Mercedes. Schumi could be battling Nico for the WDC instead of LH. Also he would have avoided the skiing accident. MS was already old and slow in Merc, beaten up comprehensively by NR.QUOTE(voscar @ Jun 19 2022, 11:32 PM) Oh you meant the 2014 season instead... Yup it'd be NR winning a few titles instead but probably not as dominant/many as LH.But that's not guaranteed coz MSC already old and not so sharp instinct during the second comeback period, quite many silly mistakes, just like Hamilton 2021, it could've been Rosberg dominating the championship if Hamilton not joining. RalphRatedR liked this post
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Jun 20 2022, 01:17 PM
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Probably Ferrari should've put medium on CS to allow better traction to overtake. I have the feeling they didn't choose the right strategy again and RB shows again it's fast on the straights.
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Jun 20 2022, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jun 20 2022, 05:18 PM) the medium dont last, at the last phase of the race 3 cars on them..alonso, ocon and leclerc all 3 of them didnt make any impact But CS was right behind MV so if he got medium he might be able to overtake then maintain/defend. CL initially when he got the mediums, he was able to pass cars easier too before the grip dropped.leclerc is like 3sec or so from Russell but the tyres not working anymore for the last 10 laps the graining is too much on the medium but the ferrari dont have traction at the hairpin dont matter fresh or softer rubber..RB survive with just enough top speed |
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Jun 20 2022, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jun 20 2022, 08:39 PM) pointless as well as max will easily repass him, if this track is tight and hard to pass then sure but that long straight its too easy..once the medium goes it goes Naah I think if CS was fitted with mediums, he would at least had a better chance rather than fitting the same tires as MV with only 6 laps fresher. Very seldom in F1 they can repass also. Both MV and CS even said the Ferrari was actually faster over the whole lap.stay on the hard is right just the car not good enough at the hairpin..just show the RB have much superior mechanical grip |
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Jun 21 2022, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Jun 20 2022, 10:57 PM) if medium the better tyre RB would have use it, even they stay off it..just after 10 laps with VSC they already got rid of the medium and goes hard all the way because simply the life is not there they key is the life of the tires, the better grip tire will only last a few laps QUOTE(Bonchi @ Jun 21 2022, 09:59 AM) Medium is C4, pretty much being the soft tyre in most track and will suffer graining almost immediately if pushed hard especially in that 15lap full throttle battle. Redbull's drs and slipstream is alot more potent as well especially with long straight. If max can get a good exit in the hairpin, it's over. But MV needed hard cuz he pitted 6 laps earlier so he needed that delta durability. Ferrari probably thought that 6 laps delta was enough for CS to attack but it's proven not (not sure if it was CL at the wheel if he maybe could). But if CS got mediums, I still think he would had a better chance at passing in the first 6-8 laps of attack. As for defending from getting repassed, that's another matter which he may or may not be able to but at least if he got in front he had a chance rather than stuck. Sometimes trying different strategy than the opponent could be the only opportunity, key word being "opportunity", not guarantee successful. RB itself often adopted such creative opportunistic strategy which ended up well for them, so Ferrari if they want to win they need to be more creative too sometimes. Unfortunately strategy often is Ferrari's key weakness.And who say very seldom can repass especially with this new reg. So many repasses happened already. This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Jun 21 2022, 12:08 PM |
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