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post Oct 9 2017, 01:49 PM, updated 9y ago

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https://www.payscale.com/research/MY/Job=So...Engineer/Salary

A Software Engineer earns an average salary of RM 52,761 per year. Experience strongly influences income for this job. The skills that increase pay for this job the most are Java/J2EE and Oracle. People in this job generally don't have more than 10 years' experience.

https://www.payscale.com/research/TH/Job=So...b33c4e4/Bangkok

A Software Engineer in Bangkok earns an average salary of THB 600,000 per year. Experience has a moderate effect on pay for this job. People in this job generally don't have more than 20 years' experience.


600000 Thai Baht equals
76002.42 Malaysian Ringgit


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post Oct 9 2017, 01:49 PM

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post Oct 9 2017, 02:02 PM

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Tapi average salary malaysian more than 3k while thailand less than 2k. So how?
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post Oct 9 2017, 02:08 PM

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so mau migrate to australia or Thailand?
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post Oct 9 2017, 02:12 PM

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Got one local Thai food restaurant taukeh partner with a Thai, who is also a programmer.

Even though the local POS software can masuk Thai character but we is having difficulty talking to their staff because they all speak only Thai.

Ended up the programming partner code his own POS software in just few days time.

Ayam is amaze.

Update:
According to the local taukeh partner, his Thai partner pay is already > RM 10k

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post Oct 9 2017, 02:15 PM

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If your assumption is only based on software engineer's salary, it is a bit premature to declare 'Bangkok salary > KL Salary, Do you feel cukur?? 50% higher!!!' don't you think?
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post Oct 9 2017, 02:22 PM

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Thai girls also better, sui mak mak
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post Oct 9 2017, 02:22 PM

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thailand is getting better than malaysia
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post Oct 9 2017, 02:22 PM

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Compare living cost , Thai is alittle cheaper though
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post Oct 9 2017, 02:26 PM

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if compare escort in thai earn average 150k bath monthly
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post Oct 9 2017, 02:29 PM

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QUOTE(yeezai @ Oct 9 2017, 02:26 PM)
if compare escort in thai earn average 150k bath monthly
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this guy just quoted the only metric which is relevant


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post Oct 9 2017, 02:29 PM

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There fewer programmers than here.. So supply low

Check world economy forum stats... Malaysia top when it comes to availability of talent meanwhile TH lacks talent... Even PH is better than TH in this regard

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post Oct 9 2017, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(Noyoudontcare @ Oct 9 2017, 02:29 PM)
There fewer programmers than here.. So supply low

Check world economy forum stats... Malaysia top when it comes to availability of talent meanwhile TH lacks talent... Even PH is better than TH in this regard
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If malaysia quality good why salary low?


Silicon Valley, high quantity, high quantity, salary also damn high.
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post Oct 9 2017, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Oct 9 2017, 01:49 PM)
https://www.payscale.com/research/MY/Job=So...Engineer/Salary

A Software Engineer earns an average salary of RM 52,761 per year. Experience strongly influences income for this job. The skills that increase pay for this job the most are Java/J2EE and Oracle. People in this job generally don't have more than 10 years' experience.

https://www.payscale.com/research/TH/Job=So...b33c4e4/Bangkok

A Software Engineer in Bangkok earns an average salary of THB 600,000 per year. Experience has a moderate effect on pay for this job. People in this job generally don't have more than 20 years' experience.
600000 Thai Baht equals
76002.42 Malaysian Ringgit
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in msia skills cannot reward you at fair market rate because cronyism don't reward talents but ____ .
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post Oct 9 2017, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(ListenToTheAngin @ Oct 9 2017, 03:12 PM)
Got one local Thai food restaurant taukeh partner with a Thai, who is also a programmer.

Even though the local POS software can masuk Thai character but we is having difficulty talking to their staff because they all speak only Thai.

Ended up the programming partner code his own POS software in just few days time.

Ayam is amaze.

Update:
According to the local taukeh partner, his Thai partner pay is already > RM 10k
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POS system, not so hard to code what...
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QUOTE(Noyoudontcare @ Oct 9 2017, 02:29 PM)
There fewer programmers than here.. So supply low

Check world economy forum stats... Malaysia top when it comes to availability of talent meanwhile TH lacks talent... Even PH is better than TH in this regard
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ya.. but malaysia many foreign it worker here.. with higher salary as well rclxms.gif
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post Oct 9 2017, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Oct 9 2017, 03:32 PM)
If malaysia quality good why salary low?
Silicon Valley, high quantity, high quantity, salary also damn high.
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Cause Malaysian company kedekut. I know cause I am in that line, Fresh grad score 18/20 on a test get 2.8k, senior software engineer do the same test get 12/20 get 6k salary. After 3 months the senior got sacked while the fresh grad workload = the senior workload+ fresh grad workload. It's the truth. No appreciation for talent.
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post Oct 9 2017, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(SaberCortez @ Oct 9 2017, 02:37 PM)
Cause Malaysian company kedekut. I know cause I am in that line, Fresh grad score 18/20 on a test get 2.8k, senior software engineer do the same test get 12/20 get 6k salary. After 3 months the senior got sacked while the fresh grad workload = the senior workload+ fresh grad workload. It's the truth. No appreciation for talent.
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So Bangkok > KL.....

Malaysia low income nation , lose to Bangkok.... rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(SaberCortez @ Oct 9 2017, 02:37 PM)
Cause Malaysian company kedekut. I know cause I am in that line, Fresh grad score 18/20 on a test get 2.8k, senior software engineer do the same test get 12/20 get 6k salary. After 3 months the senior got sacked while the fresh grad workload = the senior workload+ fresh grad workload. It's the truth. No appreciation for talent.
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While bosses gettin' bigger CC car every year. rclxms.gif
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post Oct 9 2017, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(ListenToTheAngin @ Oct 9 2017, 03:39 PM)
While bosses gettin' bigger CC car every year.  rclxms.gif
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Yeap, very true, my ex boss every year change car.
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post Oct 9 2017, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(ahmad92 @ Oct 9 2017, 02:02 PM)
Tapi average salary malaysian more than 3k while thailand less than 2k. So how?
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Dun compare whole Thailand with whole Malaysia. If you compare Bangkok with KL, Bangkok pays better and has lower cost of living.

Plus Bangkok ada tip top masseuse.... brows.gif
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post Oct 9 2017, 02:43 PM

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QUOTE(SaberCortez @ Oct 9 2017, 02:41 PM)
Yeap, very true, my ex boss every year change car.
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It's all bout supply & demand. Nothing we can do here.
Can only blame it to those that willing sell themselves cheap.
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QUOTE(ListenToTheAngin @ Oct 9 2017, 03:43 PM)
It's all bout supply & demand. Nothing we can do here.
Can only blame it to those that willing sell themselves cheap.
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Those people also cause the market to drop. Now very hard for me to demand salary, thank god now I am in a good company, at least after this project, I know can get increment. In my previous company, I work almost every day and still get peanut.
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QUOTE(SaberCortez @ Oct 9 2017, 02:44 PM)
Those people also cause the market to drop. Now very hard for me to demand salary, thank god now I am in a good company, at least after this project, I know can get increment. In my previous company, I work almost every day and still get peanut.
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Not only apply to salary, it apply to everything as well. I'm now in trading business.
The product used to have a margin of RM 500. But due to some people that are willing to sell themselves cheaply, the margin now shrink to a mere RM 100. rclxms.gif
Either you follow the market price or you close shop.
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Thailand economy is getting better.
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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Oct 9 2017, 03:32 PM)
If malaysia quality good why salary low?
Silicon Valley, high quantity, high quantity, salary also damn high.
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how u know salary is low in msia?
50k is my > 5 years ago pay whistling.gif
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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Oct 9 2017, 01:49 PM)
https://www.payscale.com/research/MY/Job=So...Engineer/Salary

A Software Engineer earns an average salary of RM 52,761 per year. Experience strongly influences income for this job. The skills that increase pay for this job the most are Java/J2EE and Oracle. People in this job generally don't have more than 10 years' experience.

https://www.payscale.com/research/TH/Job=So...b33c4e4/Bangkok

A Software Engineer in Bangkok earns an average salary of THB 600,000 per year. Experience has a moderate effect on pay for this job. People in this job generally don't have more than 20 years' experience.
600000 Thai Baht equals
76002.42 Malaysian Ringgit
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OH MY GOD, ENGINEERs AT KL WITH EXPERIENCE <10 YEARS EARNING ABOUT RM4,000 ONLY? RM52,000 / 13MTHS = RM4,000
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in short
malaysia's salary is low
living cost is high
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post Oct 9 2017, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(PowerHour @ Oct 9 2017, 02:48 PM)
actually msia living cost is freaking high

SGD 1 can get teh , SGD2.50 ciken rice

MYR 2 teh tarik , MYR 5 ciken rice

even SGREAN come to msia oso feel the pain for msian
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absolutely agree. Only paid cybertroopers say Malaysia economy stay strong. if really stay strong RM1 = SGD3.13 already. use brain to think please

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QUOTE(ListenToTheAngin @ Oct 9 2017, 03:47 PM)
Not only apply to salary, it apply to everything as well. I'm now in trading business.
The product used to have a margin of RM 500. But due to some people that are willing to sell themselves cheaply, the margin now shrink to a mere RM 100.  rclxms.gif
Either you follow the market price or you close shop.
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Competitive market. bruce.gif
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QUOTE(HardReset @ Oct 9 2017, 03:53 PM)
OH MY GOD, ENGINEERs AT KL WITH EXPERIENCE <10 YEARS EARNING ABOUT RM4,000 ONLY? RM52,000 / 13MTHS = RM4,000
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No lol, I am guessing majority, the top 20%, 10%, 5%, and 1% are different.
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QUOTE(SaberCortez @ Oct 9 2017, 03:02 PM)
Competitive market.  bruce.gif
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An lo. Dog eat dog nowadays.

At this rate I might gulung tikar liao, worse case scenario, bankruptcy.
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all migrate to thailand woohoo
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Some Bangkok fresh uni grad get paid 15K baht a month only.
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QUOTE(yeezai @ Oct 9 2017, 02:26 PM)
if compare escort in thai earn average 150k bath monthly
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QUOTE(Timemuffin @ Oct 9 2017, 02:29 PM)
this guy just quoted the only metric which is relevant
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rclxms.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ListenToTheAngin @ Oct 9 2017, 04:04 PM)
An lo. Dog eat dog nowadays.

At this rate I might gulung tikar liao, worse case scenario, bankruptcy.
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I guess I am still lucky cause I still manage to secure a job is a good firm. Good luck bro.
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QUOTE(tifosi @ Oct 9 2017, 03:06 PM)
Some Bangkok fresh uni grad get paid 15K baht a month only.
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15000 Thai Baht equals
1899.60 Malaysian Ringgit

Yeah, no different from Malaysia. I bet there are many KL fresh grads earning 1.9k only.
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QUOTE(tifosi @ Oct 9 2017, 03:06 PM)
Some Bangkok fresh uni grad get paid 15K baht a month only.
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Actually most fresh grad

Degree holder for govt job only get paid 15k bath while malaysia 2500? 3000?
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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Oct 9 2017, 03:07 PM)
15000 Thai Baht equals
1899.60 Malaysian Ringgit

Yeah, no different from Malaysia. I bet there are many KL fresh grads earning 1.9k only.
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Thailand minimum wage 300 baht a day


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QUOTE(eXTaTine @ Oct 9 2017, 01:49 PM)
https://www.payscale.com/research/MY/Job=So...Engineer/Salary

A Software Engineer earns an average salary of RM 52,761 per year. Experience strongly influences income for this job. The skills that increase pay for this job the most are Java/J2EE and Oracle. People in this job generally don't have more than 10 years' experience.

https://www.payscale.com/research/TH/Job=So...b33c4e4/Bangkok

A Software Engineer in Bangkok earns an average salary of THB 600,000 per year. Experience has a moderate effect on pay for this job. People in this job generally don't have more than 20 years' experience.
600000 Thai Baht equals
76002.42 Malaysian Ringgit
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What this means?? Does that mean they have to work much longer to reach that salary???
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QUOTE(HardReset @ Oct 9 2017, 02:53 PM)
OH MY GOD, ENGINEERs AT KL WITH EXPERIENCE <10 YEARS EARNING ABOUT RM4,000 ONLY? RM52,000 / 13MTHS = RM4,000
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after 10 years, u can migrate to bangkok and earn avg 6K per month for another 10 years... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(SaberCortez @ Oct 9 2017, 02:37 PM)
Cause Malaysian company kedekut. I know cause I am in that line, Fresh grad score 18/20 on a test get 2.8k, senior software engineer do the same test get 12/20 get 6k salary. After 3 months the senior got sacked while the fresh grad workload = the senior workload+ fresh grad workload. It's the truth. No appreciation for talent.
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Haha, maybe those senior already towards team lead/high level programming....not much on coding d, they just assign the tasks to junior and perform code reviews....

at the end, all those coding/dirty works will be passed to junior...

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after 10 years, u can migrate to bangkok and earn avg 6K per month for another 10 years...  laugh.gif
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i am not in engineering field.. rm4,000 not enough for me to cover my monthly expenses..
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but still malaysia is way better

if not we already have lowyat.th
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my friend an airbus engineer as an expat in hk,

he never disclose his income but yesterday i checked online the average expat income in hk for engineering, 1.3m hkd/year.

wow
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QUOTE(zacx @ Oct 9 2017, 04:19 PM)
What this means?? Does that mean they have to work much longer to reach that salary???
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Depends I guess, I got high salary from the get go, but I had to prove myself to get the salary.

QUOTE(KimiLau @ Oct 9 2017, 04:28 PM)
Haha, maybe those senior already towards team lead/high level programming....not much on coding d, they just assign the tasks to junior and perform code reviews....

at the end, all those coding/dirty works will be passed to junior...
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The senior don't even know how to use the database or do crystal report. Wtf passing job to junior when they can't even code a single function. More like talk cock about theory knowledge etc but they can't perform in actual production. The team I was working with have a few Principal Engineer which is higher than the senior, then junior, then intern. The highest position is the manager. In this structure, the senior still have to code lol. The company keep hiring senior developer who can't perform lol.
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actually i opt to look for bangkok for 1-2 years just for experience/fun

very hard to find for a stable company. all kecik punya
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QUOTE(malibuchong @ Oct 9 2017, 03:00 PM)
absolutely agree. Only paid cybertroopers say Malaysia economy stay strong. if really stay strong RM1 = SGD3.13 already. use brain to think please
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well...

compare klang valley with kelantan.
bn still good than pas.
orang kg will vote bn what ever our economy is.
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Work in construction industry here

My boss had just employ a fresh Degree holder Quantity Surveyor for 15,000 THB per month, there is plenty to choose from.

He is now looking for a Project Manager with a budget of 100,000 THB per month.

Work ethic and attitude of Thai worker is shiat.
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QUOTE(metaled @ Oct 9 2017, 06:30 PM)
Work in construction industry here

My boss had just employ a fresh Degree holder Quantity Surveyor for 15,000 THB per month, there is plenty to choose from.

He is now looking for a Project Manager with a budget of 100,000 THB per month.

Work ethic and attitude of Thai worker is shiat.
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KL salary isn't any better for QS grad. QS salary sucks for freshie.
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QUOTE(ikankering @ Oct 9 2017, 06:25 PM)
well...

compare klang valley with kelantan.
bn still good than pas.
orang kg will vote bn what ever our economy is.
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based on your reasoning, i guess you are a DAP supporter (if you are not orang kg) since Penang + Selangor economy > all.

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