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 Official Honda Civic 10th Gen Owner/Fans Club V7, 10th Gen Dream Machine

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post May 17 2018, 07:53 AM

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QUOTE(KnightSports @ May 16 2018, 09:15 PM)
It might be slightly lower, but not the full 6% as suggested by the article in pautan.

I am sure there will be a frenzy among many corporate starting from tomorrow demanding clarification on how to deal with the GST amount which they have paid. If they cannot reclaim their GST money, that means it will be a huge loss for them on all cars delivered after 1st of June.

It will be a crazy period this 1 and a half weeks, that is for sure.
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Most GST registered businesses that say's they have to absorb the GST cost is bullshit. Input tax was never a cost to them (not applicable to residential houses though) and output tax is paid by the end user.

All these businesses is an agent collecting tax on behalf of the gov.

Those who say otherwise, is just trying to profit the 6%.
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post May 17 2018, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(KnightSports @ May 17 2018, 09:59 AM)
Personally, of course i am hoping we get the 6% GST back in cash form.

I am not expecting it to be any way else as well once govt. fully clarifies the mechanism for all parties.

The main problem here from an economic point of view is that business operators (especially car makers and every other industry that depends on sourcing external materials) had incurred GST up front for materials from multiple parties they use to build a vehicle. Whether the govt. promises them the ability to claim back their input tax back or whether the govt. actually have the money in their reserves to pay them back is also another matter.

If you are a business operator today and you have a lot of stock of whatever you are selling, do you think you want to sell it without the GST amount charged (which you have paid) without having confirmation that you will get the money back from the kastams department?

There is actually a difference between getting your money stuck somewhere where you can get it back later vs totally losing those money.

So, it is imperative that the govt. clarifies this doubt to corporations as this indirectly affects the consumers.

A mandate is a mandate, but if the mandate causes business owners to lose money. There will be an uproar between business owners about this as well.

p/s: i am not speaking of this lightly because i am also taking delivery of a new car soon and this could not be a worst time as i do not have information on how this is going to go
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Let me show you the costing.

Business A purchase stock Rm100 + rm6 gst. Rm6 is claim under input tax. So how can the business claim the rm6 as cost when they have already claim input tax. Indirectly this business is getting rm6 from input tax and at the same time charge the consumer another rm6 as cost.

The account entry:-
Dr stock 100
Dr input tax 6
Cr supplier 106

Like I have said earlier, input tax is never a cost to them. All gst is paid by end user.

As for car manufacturer I’m pretty sure they will required all their supplier to be gst registered in order for them to claim the input tax. Even consignment in Aeon requires you register for GST before you can sell anything in there.

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post May 17 2018, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(KnightSports @ May 17 2018, 12:00 PM)
I understand the workings of it. I am not doubting how the process works.

As i mentioned, there are or could be other factors that could come into play and by your statement it might sound to many people as though you are representing Honda Malaysia that all cars moving from 1st of June will see a concrete 6% reduction while it is just an "expectation" based on your understanding of how GST works. Accountability for the statement is what is of concern here.

If it doesn't happen one way or the other, you are not accountable for it regardless of whether their explanation for doing otherwise is accepted by governing bodies or not. If they are found of wrong doings and it is agreed with the governing bodies, they will definitely be crucified for it.

This is simply why when motortrader reaches out for statements, they could not get any as there could be factors that are not known to you and me as we are not in the automotive industry. They are also scrambling to verify all their facts and any questions they might have before they would commit to answering their prospective buyers as the sales for the month where it is perceived as a "no tax" month will and most probably cause an increase in sales.

In the end, speculations do not equals reality, if it does then we are the benefiting party in this case. If it does not, we are just setting ourselves up for disappointments.

This is why we need to have more concrete news and information before making any claims. That is what i am trying to convey as i as a locked down buyer is also trying to stay neutral while hoping for the best. My decision to take delivery of the car can swing both ways depending on which is the most beneficial outcome for myself.

p/s: one way or the other, prospective car buyers will see no loss putting in a booking for a June delivery as they can still back out of it if conditions do not favor them. As for Civics, it might be a little harder as the raya holidays is coming up which means an assembly line closure not to be helped by the fact that Civic stocks are also not on the high side.

So, everyone just needs to use their sound judgement to see if this is the right time to make a purchases especially those that are taking deliveries between this 2 weeks.
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If SST is not implemented by 1st June then by right those Standard Rated Goods should reduce by 6% because the 6% is meant for the government not for the business owner. There's no question about it.

I bought this car last year and I pay 6k GST. If there's no SST/6% GST and the price is not reduce then to me is just an act of profiteering by any businesses.




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post May 18 2018, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(berann @ May 18 2018, 10:52 AM)
Toyota has already announced their price after 1st June without GST(can see from Paultan website). Seems like is almost 6% cheaper... Altis 2.0 RM 7,595 cheaper  rclxms.gif

Congrates to those who plan to buy car now .. really special discounts before the SST kick in  rclxm9.gif
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Compare it with carbase it's indeed reduce by 6%.

Let's see when & what Honda going to do.
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post May 18 2018, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(Jitty @ May 18 2018, 02:39 PM)
Omg, really feel kesian for those who just gotten their carnot sure Honda malaysia going to refund?
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Honda has to pay to the gov.

Any refund must come from the gov.
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post May 31 2018, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(KnightSports @ May 31 2018, 09:43 AM)
Actually, i don't know how much difference is between MX and RX. For a jump from FX to MX is already quite a considerable amount to pay for. From MX to jump through QX into RX for another RM300 doesn't sound like a lot. But, does it make much difference? That is the real question. The extra 1.0mil, TSER and IR Rejection is there, but what does it actually mean in the real world is the question.

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I'm using MX series for my Civic. cost RM1485.

the good thing about 10th gen civic, remote start. i always do that if i park too long under the sun.

can't really help you whether is worth it to upgrade to RX or not.




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post May 31 2018, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(fezanim @ May 31 2018, 11:18 AM)
mind to share which raytech branch u did the Raytech MX ? i’m still contemplating between 3m/ho/raytech since below 2k and within my budget .
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post Jun 5 2018, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(herzeleid @ Jun 5 2018, 09:57 AM)
TC/TCP has the oil / oil filter interval service for A and B in addition to the periodic service. So the periodic service doesn't change the oil / oil filter anymore. Is my understanding correct?

Anyone did a calculation or rough estimation of how much (in terms of %) does the maintenance of the TC/TCP higher than the 1.8?
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Well, if you can afford to pay extra 10k for TC / 18k for TCP then the maintenance shouldn't be a problem to you.

I think the difference of cost of maintenance is not really significant compare to what you have already paid up front.


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post Jun 5 2018, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(herzeleid @ Jun 5 2018, 10:17 AM)
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Bro, it's not really about affordability but it's rather about getting the money worth as well as gaining information

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You get more torque, more hp, cheaper road tax, more fuel saving, more luxury interior.

You just have to pay more maintenance and higher insurance premium.

I think it's worth every cents for the upgrades.

While i'm only driving the 1.8 but coming from a proton 1.3 that's a huge upgrade for me. rclxm9.gif
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post Jun 14 2018, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(sguy @ Jun 14 2018, 02:26 PM)
i also got the rattling sound, initially i thought it was from right side dashboard near aircond, finally found out it was from A pillar, so DIY slip a piece of rubber into it, problem solved.
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After almost 13k on ODO, the rattling sound that annoys me the most is from the center console arm rest.. this must be due to my 3 y.o daughter always step and sit on it when i stop aside to buy things & etc.

Other than that the usual rattle will be on the passenger side when it always rattles a bit in the morning and disappear after the sun bake the car in the noon.


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post Jun 14 2018, 04:03 PM

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post Jun 18 2018, 09:03 AM

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wow, honda really did the cost cut without informing the new buyers / owners ranting.gif
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QUOTE(BlueLion11 @ Jun 18 2018, 06:58 AM)
Hey guys.

Long time lurker here. Just received my 1.8s modern steel beauty around 3 weeks ago and driving it has been an absolute pleasure.

My only concern is that while driving home to my kampung yesterday, I noticed a faint burning smell whenever i go up hills and accelerating over 140kmph. Is this normal? Later on I checked under my car for any oil leaks and fortunately there weren't any. My mileage is currently around 1700km. I would really appreciate any feedback on this matter.

Thanks guys and Selamat Hari Raya.😀
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Usually the burn smell it's from the tires because of the steep hilly roads..
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post Jun 18 2018, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(RichardN @ Jun 18 2018, 10:21 AM)
What does Ultrasonic Sensor do? and What does Tilt Sensor do?
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Sorry I have no idea.
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post Jun 18 2018, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(rapple @ Jun 18 2018, 09:03 AM)
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wow, honda really did the cost cut without informing the new buyers / owners   ranting.gif
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QUOTE(matrix88 @ Jun 18 2018, 03:01 PM)
1.8 too?
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If you refer to the latest brochure, both that feature is not in the list.

And Honda can change without prior notice rclxub.gif

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post Jun 19 2018, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(Beach_Boy @ Jun 19 2018, 10:39 PM)
Q: does the e-brake automatically goes off if you put it into D/R and press the gas pedal? blink.gif
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Whenever you press the gas pedal, the e-brake will be automatically disengage.

And I also found out when I’m on brake hold and then I unbuckled my seat belt to get down from the car the e-brake will be automatically engaged.

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post Jun 20 2018, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(herzeleid @ Jun 20 2018, 11:48 AM)
is there any other way to disable the brake hold aside from pressing the button again?
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Brake hold is not auto. You have to press it to activate it. And once you unbuckled seat belt it will be de-activate.
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post Jun 20 2018, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(herzeleid @ Jun 20 2018, 01:25 PM)
i have no problem to press it when i want to brake

but to disable it any other way?
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Unbuckled seat belt that’s the only way.


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post Jun 20 2018, 01:32 PM

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QUOTE(stinky @ Jun 20 2018, 12:53 PM)
I have no problem with my tilt and ultrasonic sensor. been driving since 2017......Honda bullshitted to cut cost
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Agreed.

My car alarm only trigger twice due to heavy rain other that no problem.

Only thing is when pump fuel I cannot closed my door due to walk away auto lock and my family is sitting inside will trigger the alarm. Lol
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QUOTE(ReVolVolution @ Jun 22 2018, 12:45 PM)
Anyone changed their tyres recently? The MC5s (about 1 year plus - 25k mileage) is getting noisier. Thinking of changing but seems like the 215/55/16 tyres are quite limited.
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Bro, after you have decided what tyre to change let me know as well and the price also.

Thanks.

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