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idoblu
post Sep 21 2017, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(sou12b810 @ Sep 19 2017, 02:27 PM)
i lived in usa for 25 years.. so used to first name, last name basis..

so, ali bin muhammad. = muhammad ali.. last name written first..
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You been doing it wrong for 25 years then 😅
Last Name = surname, or family name
Ali should be your first name

For Chinese - Tan Ah Kow becomes Ah Kow Tan or Tan, Ah Kow

silic0sis
post Sep 21 2017, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(sou12b810 @ Sep 19 2017, 02:27 PM)
i lived in usa for 25 years.. so used to first name, last name basis..

so, ali bin muhammad. = muhammad ali.. last name written first..
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In the case of Muhammad Ali, Muhammad is his firstname and Ali is his surname.
His daughter's name is Laila Ali (notice it's not rearranged Ali binti Laila), he doesn't follow the Malay version where there is father's name instead of surname.
zemega
post Sep 21 2017, 11:14 PM

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Aren'y you worried about the naming trend in current generation? Muslim children having 4 words as first name, and most of their parents first name have 3 words?
By the way, what will happen if someone don't use their father name, but use their mother name instead? This is valid in Muslim and Malaysian case.
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post Sep 22 2017, 05:17 PM

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AFAIK for Malay names, last name is your father's name...

So, for Muhammad Abu Bakar Bin Mohd Fakrul
First name: Muhammad Abu Bakar
Last name: Mohd Fakrul

no need for 'Bin'

This post has been edited by amir.asyraf: Sep 22 2017, 05:17 PM
sou12b810
post Oct 1 2017, 06:03 PM

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but all convert is muhammad//. which becomes the LAST name..

so ALI if first name..

ALI (bin) muhammad..


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post Oct 2 2017, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(beetch @ Sep 16 2017, 01:41 PM)
You are doing all wrong for chinese name.

If in malaysia and singapore yes.

Internationally u have to do like this:

Full name: alan tan kok yee

First name: alan
Last name: tan kok yee

You will get a lot of headaches and rejections if u use ur malaysia method in international western countries.

I have had different western bank in different countries reject my withdrawal because i follow melaysia standerd.
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Wow mana your internationally came from?
first name always = name given by parents
Last name = Surname

I deal with many foreign bank, and i can confirm your format is incorrect mate.
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post Oct 2 2017, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(creactz @ Oct 2 2017, 11:44 AM)
Wow mana your internationally came from?
first name always = name given by parents
Last name = Surname

I deal with many foreign bank, and i can confirm your format is incorrect mate.
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So in you format:

First name: alan kok yee
Last name tan

When printed in single line becomes : alan kok yee tan.

Now when u wanna cash a check explain how u gonna do it cox check now is alan kok yee tan?

Based on real life scenario and experience dealing with banks in the us of and european countries. They dont take what u learn in asian school and culture and apply to their banking culture. U try explaining ur culture in the bank they will just say u sohai and ask u correct it.

In asia is self understood if western. No. Either u follow format or reject. Ur choice.

True storeyz.

 

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