Putar halim betui la U-Tun ni

Aik? Awal dah keluar? Macam dah tahu je benda nak jadi? Kenai tak sape nih?

I don't think that is accurate with PH supporters. They don't like mahathir but are willing to use him if it leads to victory because right now the country is more important. Whether it's geniune or not doesn't matter that much and it's also not "feel good" because the reason behind then joining forces is obvious.

The main point being, country comes first and taking mahathir down (thus removing whatever influence/power he has left) is counter productive since that is the reason he was accepted in the first place despite all his known baggage. You think LKS and anwar themselves don't know they were put in prison for political purposes? Of course they know lol.

there..what a rethoric statement

this is problem with PH fag like u..u guys a too confident that only the type of guys with a description u gave existed in PH..the truth is, there are many type of PH supporter with different perspective other than u guys but u failed to see it..& this is all thanks to the unholy pact of Tun M-Anwar

there is a group of malay PH fags that i mentioned before, but u failed to see it

u are far from reality on the ground..im afraid ure too comfort getting along with only people of ur kind..u never see the PH fag that is not in the same perspective of urs..do u think all PAN supporter support Tun M-Anwar pact 100%? do u think all Tun M supporter support Tun M-Anwar pact 100%? if yes, then u have my sympathy

Polis, mane polis?

yeah i know. im just inclined to called arwah a mujahid (words with +ve feeling) where the words jihadist sounds most appropriate
i'm not saying his a jihadist by fighting the goverment, i think i read somewhere before his return to tanah jawi he is already radicalize and went to fight in afghanistan or something.


also is hj hadi alone is the problem?. you could ask any typical muslim around you here and ask for their opinion towards syiah whether or not they are the enemy nor if they really muslim and not sesat nor if they reeceive any whatsapp claiming syiah had infiltrated the country for some syiah crusade against sunni. or ktard opinion towards BN. personally i tend to believe people has these feeling all along and hj hadi like any poitician are just there to exploited people feeling for his personal gain

the problem to me is did mahathir rain down fire and fury because these people are a genuine threat to this country or he does it so he didnt look weak?

so many /k/fag didnt realized there are so many malays disappointed with Tun M-Anwar unholy pact

there are so many malays stand up & defend Tun M during the late 1998's anwar sacking, & there are also so many other malays stand up to defend Anwar..especially anwar supporter, the reformists, they got bleed, they got bruised, some even detained under ISA or police lockup, they sacrificed themselves to defend anwar..suddenly Tun M said "itu cerita lama", for sure these people disappointed like hell..same goes with Memali incident..its really make malays disappointed with Tun M answer, especially among PAN supporter+some ex-PAS who join Pribumi

a bit to full of themself aren't they?

what make them think mahathir isnt using them as well?
even in PH win, umno is still with plenty of seats. what make them think mahathir wouldn't jump over and leave DAP out in the cold like PAS did?

also according to WEF statistic, there isnt really a problem with this country per say. this country need no saving. they are just saying that because they are just a bunch of closet racist.

Handle event pon fail nk tadbir negara. jokes

I don't support PH, definitely not PH fag. I've met a lot of PH senior members, don't think highly of them. I don't believe in supporting (being loyal to) political parties anyway, political parties may be good today, bad tomorrow and good again in the future. You should support them when they're good and discard them when they're bad, there is no reason at all to be "loyal" to a party as a citizen.
The reality is, was mahathir corrupt? most likely yes. Do PH people think he was corrupt? Yes. Did they accept him knowing he was corrupt while in UMNO? Yes.
If they know he was corrupt during his umno days and they accepted him despite that, makes no sense to question him about it now.
It's the same with Mahathir supporters who followed him from BN, who have to accept anwar and DAP.

There's no need for you to be afraid.
Is it possible that it might be internal? Yes, of course. Can't truly rule anything out yet. But, realistically, sabotage seems much more likely looking at the situation and circumstances. I think even you have to agree with that, so let's just agree that although it's possibly internal, the odds are higher that it is a sabotage.

Support 100%, no. I don't think anyone really supports 100%.

ermmm there is an edit on the video. It can be that the video was edited and audio manipulated to show that the person is living before the chaos.

Its unbelievable there is no official video or CCTV like recording showing time.

Everyone is using everyone. That's how it works. I'm sure Mahathir has his own agenda and I don't think that agenda is necessarily to "save" malaysia.
Mahathir may jump, it's just a risk they have to take. They want his power/influence/knowledge, etc, they have to take the risk.
I was just talking from opposition POV in that post.

To me, there are some huge problems with the country, the racism and racial divide to me is the #1 biggest problem.
Some corruption here and there is not that big a deal to me, in fact for people in business, it's what makes doing business in malaysia so easy, but it has to be done more subtly, at least the way mahathir did it, through cronies, the country still develops and grows, people still get wealthier. It's still done through cronies now, but the other way it's done is bad for the country because of the instant debt issue it creates which has an instant negative impact (versus the gradual, more tolerable) on citizens, the economy and growth.

This post has been edited by silic0sis: Aug 14 2017, 05:15 PM

"It's the same with Mahathir supporters who followed him from BN, who have to accept anwar and DAP."


meaning that its an insincere pact of PH..its a pact of desperate with no principle..u have to deal with a devil to fight a so-called devil, when u urself dunno if the devil u befriended with will behave & not bite u back after the so-called devil that u fight defeated

working with previous robber of ur house to fight a new robber in ur house where the robber u befriended with didnt even admitted that he rob ur house while u knew exactly that he indeed rob ur house last time)..thats what current PH is

its not about afraid but its about being cheated by Tun M & Anwar after all these years

there's a possibility someone might sabotage it but based on several video footages & pictures (especially the guy upstair who throw chair inside the hall), it was done by their Pribumi supporter themselves who still disatisfied either with Tun M or with the questioner

I don't think you read what I posted at all

Grow older and wise up and continue to vote for the same hypocrite party (how many of the UMNO people spoke out against Mahathir? How many of the UMNO people now blasted the opposition for attack Dr M?).

I think you overestimate your intelligence a little, because you sound like another hypocrite just like what you are condemning

I cannot take "older and wiser" people seriously when they say BN is better. I just need to watch the compilation video of UMNO AGM over the years and conclude the status quo is detrimental to the growth of the country. I'm not sure why people blast Pakatan for "inciting politics of hate" just because they oppose government policies. Hello so are we supposed to accept everything the government does?. It's like the idiots ignore every racist shit and fear mongering and control over the media (cina komunis, bumiputera rights, Islamic arrogance, belittling fellow countrymen).

You are blind and you are certainly not wise... Don't make a fool of yourself and act all high and mighty.

This post has been edited by FatalExe: Aug 14 2017, 05:26 PM

I don't think highly of myself lah. you can call me stupid. I have no problem with that. Pakatan will never win an argument because they are on the wrong side on a lot of issues.

I think they sincerely want to defeat BN. Not necessarily desperate, but opposition is definitely the underdogs here. It's like a football team, and mahathir and his followers are top players and free agents, makes sense to take them lol.
I don't think there is necessarily "no principle". They probably have agreed to a set of ideas and principles. People with different goals and ideas can come together to work on what they agree on.
Yeah the devil part is probably accurate to some extent.

Yeah, it's like hiring a top hacker who previously hacked your servers to stop a new breed of hackers trying to hack your servers.

You said you were afraid, so I was just telling you not to be afraid lol, obviously in jest. What makes you think you're not being cheated by the current guys though, they're all from the same party. My opinion is that almost everyone at the high levels in both parties are probably corrupted to some extent, some maybe more than others. I think switching parties occasionally reduces the amount of corruption, because it reduces the amount of time they're in power, which reduces the amount of power they wield which reduces the extent to which they can be corrupt.

This post has been edited by silic0sis: Aug 14 2017, 05:33 PM

you sound like another hypocrite just like what you are condemning

You self proclaim to be "older and wiser" and claim that Pakatan is evil. You know what? I just need to watch the compilation video of UMNO AGM over the years and conclude the status quo is detrimental to the growth of the country. I'm not sure why people blast Pakatan for "inciting politics of hate" just because they oppose government policies. Hello so are we supposed to accept everything the government does?. It's like the idiots ignore every racist shit and fear mongering and control over the media (cina komunis, bumiputera rights, Islamic arrogance, belittling fellow countrymen).

People hate BN for lots of reasons. You are not looking this at a big picture. Supporting Pakatan means people blindly follow them and it's a trend? Why don't you wake up and see what's happening to the country?

You are blind and you are certainly not wise... Don't make a fool of yourself and act all high and mighty.

This post has been edited by FatalExe: Aug 14 2017, 05:29 PM

I don't think you are done yet. Please continue lah.

u think they are sincere, many think they are not

if DAP-PAS pact, then it is a pact of agreeing on a set of ideas & principles..like u said, "People with different goals and ideas can come together to work on what they agree on."..PAS-DAP pact is the best example of it

but NO...not Tun M-PH pact..Tun M is about corruption, cronynism, nepotism, (borrowed anwar's words lulz)..its not what i said, its what Opposition said for many years about Tun M..is "cronynism" or "corruption" a set of idea? this is where its obviously a pact with no principle whatsoever...u are dealing with the one that causing so much trouble to malaysia in the past where he didnt even admitted guilty of all that even until now..what kind of principle was that?

well, if u hire a hacker who before this hacking ur server & cause u millions of losses & years of suffering where the hacker never admitted his past sin & who cant promise that he will never hack ur server again to fight a new breed of hacker , then yes u are making a fool of urself

asking a still untamed wolf who ate ur sheeps in the past to get rid of another wolf from eating ur sheeps? think about that

the way he climbed the top leadership in PH while his own party has nothing to offer as they exactly have nothing but only 1 MP seat, even dare to call himself the top dog summore, it just shows that mahathir is still the original mahathir during previous UMNO, nothing change much

This post has been edited by keown83: Aug 14 2017, 05:53 PM