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Buying Advice 350D? 400D? D40?, help me out

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post Apr 10 2007, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(xyzpace @ Apr 10 2007, 01:45 PM)
hard making decision....
shop says d40 good into taking lanscape pic and 400d good into taking sports.
and i think 400d has better resell value.
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huh? D40 good in taking landscape? y? nvr heard of it smile.gif

IMO, landscape is the most easy thing to take, and almost all kinds of camera take nice landscape pic even with a PNS.

But of course have to be at right time to take nice landscape. esp when the sky is clear.


Added on April 10, 2007, 2:10 pm
QUOTE(undazztood @ Apr 10 2007, 02:14 PM)
RM2699? last two week i asked the price for 400d is RM2900+kit+lens only.
luckily i didn't bought it. if not sure very2 regret today.
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2699 i dont think every1 can get this price actually, unless u know the person.

because i know that person ( not really know )..but my cousin purchase a lot of lenses from him..so he give me this price...

but sometimes i belive 2699 is not very cheap..cos some1 has the price of 2700 with body + kit + 1GB memeory card smile.gif

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post Apr 10 2007, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(undazztood @ Apr 10 2007, 01:14 PM)
RM2699? last two week i asked the price for 400d is RM2900+kit+lens only.
luckily i didn't bought it. if not sure very2 regret today.
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vmad.gif there is NO camera when specially design or better is taking Potriat, landscape or anything...

It's all about skill, control of your camera and the LENS you use brows.gif ...of course speed of camera is very important also...400D !! thumbup.gif
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post Apr 10 2007, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(g88 @ Apr 10 2007, 04:34 PM)
vmad.gif  there is NO camera when specially design or better is taking Potriat, landscape or anything...
Have you heard of a Seitz or a Hasselblad or a Mamiya or even a Fujifilm or Pentax? not the 35mm though.

QUOTE(g88 @ Apr 10 2007, 04:34 PM)
It's all about skill, control of your camera and the LENS you use  brows.gif ...of course speed of camera is very important also...400D !!  thumbup.gif
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Skill, yes. Lens? not really. Speed? Generally dSLRs have the capability to do BULB, or 30secs to 1/4000secs for a shutter. Please look at this forum or other popular forums, there are plenty of nice photos, supposedly taken from a pro with expensive gears. You will be surprised with the equipments they use and whom they are.

My advise to you, you are so badly needed to develop your skills first rather than to bang the wall with a teaspoon. Also, there is the need to check with the facts PROPERLY preferably with hands-on knowledge. It will not make you more compelling among other photographers over here, instead you will be a laughing stock for the wickeds and you will confuse even more the already confused newbies asking for advice.

Remember, a photo speaks a thousand words!
It will not only tell what's within the photo but also how far are you in taking photos.

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post Apr 10 2007, 08:36 PM

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99% pro photographers now a day depend on software editing. This is also due to photos taken in digital format not like last time using film. So, there is nothing to shout about in a pro photographers now a day.

Not everyone that own FilmSLR/DSLR must become a pro photographers. Everyone can own one or more FilmSLR/DSLR if they got $$$$$$. They can use expensive camera & lens to snap normal pics, there is nothing wrong about it.

"Photo speak a thousand word". So stop your nonsense and post more photos and let the photos speak for themself.

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post Apr 10 2007, 08:59 PM

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You've totally missed the point. I'm generally telling g88 that gears does not matter and stop whining and get real. At the same time, don't confuse people with inaccurate information smile.gif
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post Apr 10 2007, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(chrisoys @ Apr 10 2007, 08:36 PM)
99% pro photographers now a day depend on software editing. This is also due to photos taken in digital format not like last time using film. So, there is nothing to shout about in a pro photographers now a day.

Not everyone that own FilmSLR/DSLR must become a pro photographers. Everyone can own one or more FilmSLR/DSLR if they got $$$$$$. They can use expensive camera & lens to snap normal pics, there is nothing wrong about it.

"Photo speak a thousand word". So stop your nonsense and post more photos and let the photos speak for themself.

Cheers notworthy.gif
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agree with you...maybe some ppl just so skeptical doh.gif rclxm9.gif .....
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post Apr 11 2007, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(xyzpace @ Apr 10 2007, 12:45 PM)
hard making decision....
shop says d40 good into taking lanscape pic and 400d good into taking sports.
and i think 400d has better resell value.
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and now you know which shop to avoid. kindly name the shop please.

QUOTE(jian.see @ Apr 10 2007, 07:26 AM)
wow...thanks for yr effort, appreacite it;)

BTW, these 2 pics are zoom at 300mm?
the 2nd pic at full zoom IINM. smile.gif i found NEW unit of that same lens at RM 590 over at J-One amcorp mall. no filter la. you get your own filter. smile.gif

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post Apr 11 2007, 09:43 AM

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see how sharp this pic is:P
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post Apr 11 2007, 09:57 AM

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you people just like to show-off your above RM 2k lens. tongue.gif
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post Apr 11 2007, 09:59 AM

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what 2k lens? 200mm pic only wut, not even 300mm yet.
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QUOTE(nairud @ Apr 11 2007, 09:59 AM)
what 2k lens? 200mm pic only wut, not even 300mm yet.
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hehe. in general la. tongue.gif your siggy sez it all. wink.gif
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If size does matter, then it's time for 500mm lens
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post Apr 11 2007, 12:09 PM

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why dont u look at this


All taken with the Sigma 70-300mm APO DG and extension tubes

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Added on April 11, 2007, 12:11 pmmore pics of Sigma 70-300mm
http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showth...ma+70-300mm+APO

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post Apr 11 2007, 12:31 PM

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My turn showing my doggie pics here using 70-200mm cool2.gif

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Blue Sky with White Cloud cool2.gif
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to jian.see

the sigma 70-300 apo macro is a good lens for starter with reasonable price...i heard some ppl complain about the slow AF...i think this will only know when u had a hand on experiment for it...

the macro mode only able to used on 200mm above so the focusing distance is 1m which is abit far but do u think it is a problem for u..and this lens is 1:2 but not the true 1:1 macro lens.

the pic u show, where this lens able to get such close up is bcoz of the extension tube..which reduce ur focusing distance so u can get closer to ur subject. i saw some ppl using this lens and produce excellent image..so i think skill play the main role..so no need worry about other...just buy whatever u wan...and learn from it...
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QUOTE(aaron @ Apr 11 2007, 02:02 PM)
to jian.see

the sigma 70-300 apo macro is a good lens for starter with reasonable price...i heard some ppl complain about the slow AF...i think this will only know when u had a hand on experiment for it...

the macro mode only able to used on 200mm above so the focusing distance is 1m which is abit far but do u think it is a problem for u..and this lens is  1:2 but not the true 1:1 macro lens.

the pic u show, where this lens able to get such close up is bcoz of the extension tube..which reduce ur focusing distance so u can get closer to ur subject. i saw some ppl using this lens and produce excellent image..so i think skill play the main role..so no need worry about other...just buy whatever u wan...and learn from it...
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thanks for the reply smile.gif

as a beginner, i think this lens is suitable for me, although it has some draw back..but still it is worth for the price.

yupe, from the link that i have posted above, i saw some of them take nice, excellent pic with this lens, but of course some of them only produce so so pic, i 100% agree u the skill of a photographer is the main role.

Most probably i'll get this lens tongue.gif
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post Apr 11 2007, 02:21 PM

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yeah, my Tamron macro mode you have to set to 180mm - 300mm range then only can use.


Added on April 11, 2007, 2:29 pm
QUOTE(nairud @ Apr 11 2007, 11:07 AM)
If size does matter, then it's time for 500mm lens
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just read the review of Sigma's 800mm lens. damn big, RRP is GBP 4499.

reminds me of your siggy. now if only i'm allowed to scan and upload that magazine article. smile.gif

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post Apr 11 2007, 02:32 PM

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I'm sure there's some news online which you can quote.
I'd like to have the Sigma 200-500mm f2.8
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QUOTE(jian.see @ Apr 11 2007, 01:52 PM)
thanks for the reply smile.gif

as a beginner, i think this lens is suitable for me, although it has some draw back..but still it is worth for the price.

yupe, from the link that i have posted above, i saw some of them take nice, excellent pic with this lens, but of course some of them only produce so so pic, i 100% agree u the skill of a photographer is the main role.

Most probably i'll get this lens tongue.gif
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oh yes...u may also consider the tamron as well...price i think is almost the same..
the sigma build quality shakehead.gif like not so good... for tamron... not sure...heard it is better..
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QUOTE(nairud @ Apr 11 2007, 02:32 PM)
I'm sure there's some news online which you can quote.
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Practical Photography magazine, November 2006 edition.

http://www.photographymags.co.uk/

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