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kentbong92
post Sep 8 2017, 01:40 PM

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Hey guys, just want to ask, normally how much is the alignment cost at SC? recently felt that the car alignment is out a bit..

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csbong87
post Sep 8 2017, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(netmask8 @ Sep 8 2017, 12:36 PM)
GX or TRD sport rim from Toyota Service Centre?? Or you get sport RIM from tyre shop??
Tyre (before) = Conti CC5 185/60 , Tyre (after) = Michelin XM2 /PS3 185/60 ??  Conti ultra contact 6 / CC 6 https://www.continental-tyres.com.my/car/ti...ultracontactuc6
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Cap ayam Rim

Tyre (before) = Conti CC5 185/60 , Tyre (after) = Michelin XM2 = Yap.

My knowledge about car not good.. hope can understanding wub.gif
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post Sep 8 2017, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(gurrenlagann @ Sep 8 2017, 12:38 PM)
of course no change la bro, your tire profile is still same bangwall.gif
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blush.gif back tire still new so change front first to michellin see got more grip or not, but no car still wander. mecahnic say can let him check wether is strut, ball joint, or electric issue, as i done alignment and check using computer system in service center, they say no problem is vios charecter
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QUOTE(csbong87 @ Sep 8 2017, 01:57 PM)
Cap ayam Rim

Tyre (before) = Conti CC5 185/60 , Tyre (after) = Michelin XM2 = Yap.

My knowledge about car not good.. hope can understanding wub.gif
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Since b4 and after changes tyres sizes are same, 185/60 R15, most probably cap ayam rim makes the driving behavior changed. Cap ayam rim is steel, aluminum alloy, carbon fiber or others? Estimate cost ?? Including balancing and alignment??
Got photo of cap ayam rim to share here?

https://www.yourmechanic.com/article/how-ri...why-they-matter

https://www.driving.co.uk/car-clinic/what-y...es-on-your-car/

https://www.thoughtco.com/tire-noise-3234473

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post Sep 8 2017, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(netmask8 @ Sep 8 2017, 03:15 PM)
Since b4 and after changes tyres sizes are same, 185/60 R15, most probably cap ayam rim makes the driving behavior changed. Cap ayam rim is steel, aluminum alloy, carbon fiber or others? Estimate cost ?? Including balancing and alignment??
Got photo of cap ayam rim to share here?

https://www.yourmechanic.com/article/how-ri...why-they-matter

https://www.driving.co.uk/car-clinic/what-y...es-on-your-car/

https://www.thoughtco.com/tire-noise-3234473
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<a href="https://ibb.co/cVrAjF"><img src="https://thumb.ibb.co/cVrAjF/temp_File_For_Share_2017_09_08_15_42_38.jpg" alt="temp_File_For_Share_2017_09_08_15_42_38" border="0"></a>

Cap ayam rim is steel, aluminum alloy, carbon fiber or others?

Not sure, dint ask

Estimate cost ?

Not sure, FOC


Pls help.
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post Sep 8 2017, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(csbong87 @ Sep 8 2017, 03:50 PM)
<a href="https://ibb.co/cVrAjF"><img src="https://thumb.ibb.co/cVrAjF/temp_File_For_Share_2017_09_08_15_42_38.jpg" alt="temp_File_For_Share_2017_09_08_15_42_38" border="0"></a>

Cap ayam rim is steel, aluminum alloy, carbon fiber or others?

Not sure, dint ask

Estimate cost ?

Not sure, FOC
Pls help.
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https://ibb.co/cVrAjF
DreamerTKM
post Sep 8 2017, 03:51 PM

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How can cap ayam rim made of steel? doh.gif
How can carbon fibre rim considered as cap ayam? doh.gif
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post Sep 8 2017, 04:14 PM

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QUOTE(csbong87 @ Sep 8 2017, 03:50 PM)
<a href="https://ibb.co/cVrAjF"><img src="https://thumb.ibb.co/cVrAjF/temp_File_For_Share_2017_09_08_15_42_38.jpg" alt="temp_File_For_Share_2017_09_08_15_42_38" border="0"></a>

Cap ayam rim is steel, aluminum alloy, carbon fiber or others?

Not sure, dint ask

Estimate cost ?

Not sure, FOC
Pls help.
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Since the question and answer are in ? And Cap ayam rim material also ?? (Don't know/sure)
Cap ayam rim FOC = given by relative / siblings ?? I believe you know.. previously this cap ayam rim fitted in old Nissan Leaf or Tesla car, b4 given to you??

https://www.yourmechanic.com/article/how-ri...why-they-matter

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post Sep 8 2017, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(netmask8 @ Sep 8 2017, 04:14 PM)
Since the question and answer are in ? And Cap ayam rim also ?? (Don't know/sure)
Cap ayam rim FOC = given by relative / siblings ?? I believe you know..

https://www.yourmechanic.com/article/how-ri...why-they-matter

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I believe is cap ayam not ori japan volk racing.. since foc i also dont want Q him so much..fren, just want to know a solution to lighten my steering feel.. cause i'm not a very car guy.. cool2.gif
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post Sep 8 2017, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(csbong87 @ Sep 8 2017, 04:21 PM)
I believe is cap ayam not ori japan volk racing.. since foc i also dont want Q him so much..fren, just want to know a solution to lighten my steering feel.. cause i'm not a very car guy.. cool2.gif
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Since b4 + after tyres changes were same sizes, and the only change is the sport rim. believed that you put the same air pressure to tyres too.
Option to consider:-
1. Weight the original sport rim and write it down.
2. Need to spend little cost to go tyre shop and put back original sport rim, test it on the road and decide what fit you best.
3. Weight the Japan FOC ultra racing sport RIM and write it down.
4. Use yr wisdom to use original or Japan imported racing FOC sport RIM?? Need to spend tyre shop labour cost.. IMHO and solution to you.. Alright?? Will Michelin tyre/ rim material also affect the steering feeling?? Also related too.. go to tyre shop to determine the correctness steering feeling..

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post Sep 8 2017, 04:39 PM

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QUOTE(netmask8 @ Sep 8 2017, 04:32 PM)
Since b4 + after tyres changes were same sizes, and the only change is the sport rim. believed that you put the same air pressure to tyres too.
Option to consider:-
1. Weight the original sport rim and write it down.
2. Need to spend little cost to go tyre shop and put back original sport rim, test it on the road and decide what fit you best.
3. Weight the Japan FOC ultra racing sport RIM and write it down.
4. Use yr wisdom to use original or Japan imported racing FOC sport RIM??  Need to spend tyre shop labour cost.. IMHO and solution to you.. Alright?? Will Michelin tyre also affect the steering feeling?? Also related too.. go to tyre shop to determine the correctness steering feeling..
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is CAP ayam rim, but i had a hard feeling that one of the struts is having issues, i do tried to air in the tyres, and yes the steering does feel lighter, but not to the expectation and no free play on steering wheel. Does Soft suspension any effect on steering respondsiveness ? sorry really no info and kosong about car thinggy.. bye.gif
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QUOTE(csbong87 @ Sep 8 2017, 04:39 PM)
is CAP ayam rim, but i had a hard feeling that one of the struts is having issues, i do tried to air in the tyres, and yes the steering does feel lighter, but not to the expectation and no free play on steering wheel. Does Soft suspension any effect on steering respondsiveness ? sorry really no info and kosong about car thinggy.. bye.gif
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Need to try few avail options, to identifying the correct steering feeling. For any engineering students, they will learn how to determine and apply lean manufacturing concepts, like FMEA, RCI, 5W1H, 5S ..etc to solve any obstacle. Rather than early assumption which may not applicable, nor the root cause.
Experience may be relevant, but is it the real issue?
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post Sep 8 2017, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(csbong87 @ Sep 8 2017, 11:33 AM)
what are the most cost saving way to improve 2013 vios handling and strut. ? can aftermarket sportrims affect the steering heaviness ?
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Bro i just share my budget way to improve handling that i installed ULTRA RACING REAR ANTI ROLL BAR and the result is improved significant ! Due to budget and i haven't put in front strut bar or else the handling is better. Sport rim i no idea as i no make any survey but what i know is u change ur tyre to 195 size will help you bit for your handling.


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post Sep 8 2017, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(netmask8 @ Sep 8 2017, 06:06 PM)
Need to try few avail options, to identifying the correct steering feeling. For any engineering students, they will learn how to determine and apply lean manufacturing concepts, like FMEA, RCI, 5W1H, 5S ..etc to solve any obstacle. Rather than early assumption which may not applicable, nor the root cause.
Experience may be relevant, but is it the real issue?
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we need to visit every RIM factory to understand the MANUFACTURING concept before place order?
As i know, User feeling is the most important and second is the price. FMEA, RCI, 5W1H, 5S?sorry i am from kampung school and donno wtf is that.
Please dont ask me to google it what is the meaning, i prefer seek help from rim expert.
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post Sep 8 2017, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(initialdota @ Sep 8 2017, 08:32 PM)
we need to visit every RIM factory to understand the MANUFACTURING concept before place order?
As i know, User feeling is the most important and second is the price. FMEA, RCI, 5W1H, 5S?sorry i am from kampung school and donno wtf is that.
Please dont ask me to google it what is the meaning, i prefer seek help from rim expert.
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Not sure if go talk all these manufacturing term to the tyre shop boss will get chased out of the shop with spanner not bye.gif
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post Sep 8 2017, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(initialdota @ Sep 8 2017, 08:32 PM)
we need to visit every RIM factory to understand the MANUFACTURING concept before place order?
As i know, User feeling is the most important and second is the price. FMEA, RCI, 5W1H, 5S?sorry i am from kampung school and donno wtf is that.
Please dont ask me to google it what is the meaning, i prefer seek help from rim expert.
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For me, I Noticed kampung Vios mostly got just normal rim, instead of urban city whereby Vios got GX / TRD rim..

that's what I recommended option, to revert back original sport rim and use right wisdom to determine the steering feeling..
FMEA, SPC, 5S, root cause analysis(RCI), poke-yoke ..etc were for any engineering students during tertiary education.. not for you.. read comprehension level well too.
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post Sep 8 2017, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(netmask8 @ Sep 8 2017, 08:56 PM)
For me, I Noticed kampung Vios mostly got just normal rim, instead of urban city  whereby Vios got GX / TRD rim..

that's what I recommended option, to revert back original sport rim and use right wisdom to determine the steering feeling..
FMEA, SPC, 5S, root cause analysis(RCI), poke-yoke ..etc were for any engineering students during tertiary education.. not for you.. read comprehension level well too.
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haha....because i am not engineering student that pro as u....
if yr point is good....pls wait for other ENGINEERING expert to support yr point.........
BTW,Congrats to u for yr new wife and shoe.......ops,miss-out.....skirt as well.....

* implement JIDOKA and KAIZEN to improve the rim quality....... u can top up in the manufacturing concept if u want

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post Sep 8 2017, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(netmask8 @ Sep 8 2017, 08:56 PM)
For me, I Noticed kampung Vios mostly got just normal rim, instead of urban city  whereby Vios got GX / TRD rim..

that's what I recommended option, to revert back original sport rim and use right wisdom to determine the steering feeling..
FMEA, SPC, 5S, root cause analysis(RCI), poke-yoke ..etc were for any engineering students during tertiary education.. not for you.. read comprehension level well too.
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Come on...get a life doh.gif

Your GX rim is just a thin 15x5.5J rim that have the look only, it doesn't gain any performance or stability either. Don't make it sound like all other rims in the world is just pure shit and only GX rim is the only rim that can do anything.

And please... keep all the alien terms for your work not in car forum. Not all people working in manufacturing like you, different people have their own working path. Only manufacturing engineer is the king? You try talk this to doctor, maybe the doctor will even give you some medicine thinking that you too stress with your production line.

We don't want to have that feeling where still need to stress looking at all these even after work. All we want here is useful information sharing among all car lovers.

Thank you.

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QUOTE(DreamerTKM @ Sep 8 2017, 09:17 PM)
Come on...get a life  doh.gif

Your GX rim is just a thin 15x5.5J rim that have the look only, it doesn't gain any performance or stability either. Don't make it sound like all other rims in the world is just pure shit and only GX rim is the only rim that can do anything.

And please... keep all the alien terms for your work not in car forum. Not all people working in manufacturing like you, different people have their own working path. Only manufacturing engineer is the king? You try talk this to doctor, maybe the doctor will even give you some medicine thinking that you too stress with your production line.

We don't want to have that feeling where still need to stress looking at all these even after work. All we want here is useful information sharing among all car lovers.

Thank you.
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Today all I posted here, kindly please please read the comprehension context correctly. I just give feedback to other Vios LYN member.. I not only got Vios with GX Rim, myvi car, and also father's inherited quite new Conti turbo car which got much better specs.. hmm.. Vios LYN, so sorry for all my posts today..read well today all I posted. Seem like "Someone"may not happy with "Sifu" lean manufacturing concepts?? Thanks
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post Sep 8 2017, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(netmask8 @ Sep 8 2017, 09:55 PM)
Today all  I posted here, kindly please please read the comprehension context correctly. I just give feedback to other Vios LYN member.. I not only got Vios with GX Rim, myvi car, and also father's inherited quite new Conti turbo car which got much better specs.. hmm.. Vios LYN, so sorry for all my posts today..read well today all I posted. Seem like "Someone"may not happy with "Sifu" lean manufacturing concepts?? [COLOR=red]Thanks
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U r right.......i am the one,since that last time bodykit price in toyota argument.i just cant accept yr comment,only u correct,other comment is wrong,even i snap photo to prove it but u said i edited.Hello...........Please recall yr mind!

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