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post Feb 14 2024, 09:34 AM

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QUOTE(coffee20038 @ Feb 14 2024, 01:33 AM)
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AWD and tricky situations - ie. driving up slippery slopes or car park ramps, wet grass with some mud, and the option to go slightly off the beaten track when I chose to. Also, I amĀ  geek for the tech behind this AWD which is electronic and hence predictive. I test it up a steep parking ramp and it predicted the incline and sent power to rear wheels without waiting to detect slippage. The dashboard has a gauge to show torque distribution front/rear. As for improvement in handling/cornering, I don't feel much benefit.

Speed ans Fuel consumption on highway - my driving speed to obtain 14km/l range between 100hmh to 130kmh. It wasn't constant. Perhaps holding at constant 90kmh can get me better results.

Rims and tyres change and effect - tyres switched to Nexen RU-1 235/55/19 and 19inch et40 rims. The goal was to be as similar as the stock 19inch available in other markets hence the offset is same as stock. I found no significant difference in ride quality.

Warranty - you have to weight your risk appetite. But i wasnt going to roll on those stock rims.
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Thanks a lot on explaining the AWD advantages. The ONLY thing that attracts me toward AWD was the possibilities of better cornering stability and since you did not experience any advantage in that aspect, that makes me happy with my choice of E spec.

I have not tried the AWD/2WD comparison myself but everybody I asked told me the 2WD has better pickup. Even with supposedly better pickup, I can only describe the pickup as Smooth & Adequate. It is certainly not fast.

How much did you trade in your Toyo? How much was the Nexen? How would you describe the Nexen vs Toyo?


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QUOTE(Cavino @ Feb 14 2024, 03:52 AM)
If you like to occasionally for off-road (minor off-road that is, CRV not really meant for hard core off-road driving), then the AWD gives peace of mind to navigate especially uphill climb, sandy and slightly muddy road.

Driving in rain gives much more stable rides especially when running thru puddle of waters. That is my experience with driving my sis's Subaru XV but then again, Subaru Asymmetrical AWD system is really the best AWD there is. For cornering stability, nothing beats the Subaru AWD system that can divert power into or away from a single affected tyre instead of just twin 60/40, 50/50 setup.

Back to CRV, they are tuned for non aggressive acceleration meaning no matter how you push, it will just gradually accelerate. Definitely won't have the ommph when compare to Civic turbo. Comfort yes. So unless you test drive both AWD and non AWD side by side, I don't think we can feel the difference since the acceleration are forced/tuned to go on smooth gradual acceleration no matter how we push it.

I want the 360 but don't really need the AWD (it will comes with more maintenance in future besides tyres maintenance (more makan)). So its either E spec or RS. Turbo engine has its own problem, shorter engine life due to turbo heat and compressed air, possible early engine head gasket leaking than can coz engine oil/coolant dilution, CVT maintenance, the much shorter non-fixed service interval than can go down to 6 to 8K if driven a lot in City drive. Servicing in Honda nowadays is packed everyday and we must change oil when indicated, no dragging as turbo wears out the oil fast due to very high temp. So if we are not boss and can go service anytime, its a bit of a hassle for shorter interval servicing.

Many will just think of RS hybrid from fuel saving advantage only. I would go more for it due to its EV acceleration smoothness, no turbo lag, EV quietness especially if we drive a LOT in city and the much cooler meter panel. From what I read, there is a massive difference in fuel saving if we drive a LOT in the city. Adds up especially when fuel subsidy is remove this year or next. Won't go anywhere near the much higher RS price tag but it helps to add up if we like the EV startup and acceleration.

The complexities of 2 engine system got both its cons AND pro. RS using Atkinson NA engine thus, no turbo possible long term issue, no CVT issue, no starter motor, instant torque (tho tuned to gradually increase, definitely not a Tesla...hehe) and have fixed service interval at 10k mileage (NA engine part also wear out MUCH slower as they be used much lesser, just for charging mostly unless running highway most of the time).

Of course, later have to worry for the cost of battery change (if drive long term), inverter and IPU wear, etc, clutches maintenance, repair and replacement...its a give and take. With the world going to pull back on combustion engine, the fuel price might goes up even more in future. Instead of less demand cheaper price, OPEC might just raise the price in future to make more profit per gallon to make up for loss in demand. They have done that before when they limit the production.
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I think you might have gotten it the other way around. Subaru should be having the symmetrical AWD instead. Here is an interesting video and yes, the Subaru is superior and that probably contribute to superior cornering stability. May I ask, why are you not getting the Subaru?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OzK-oRPCbs

Hybrid. My brief test drive tells me, once at highway speed, there is not much difference between turbo and hybrid. If anything, Hybrid has lower top speed and the switch over to ICE is pretty seamless to me. I did not consider the Hybrid for the same reason as yours...don't want complexity and no spare tire.

Turbo. Hardly felt the turbo lag. Probably because this engine love to revs and before you know it, it is already over 1700rpm. For my driving style, I could never reach 10,000 km in 6 months so I guess service interval is not an issue for me. I shall see whether my assumption is correct or wrong in 6 month's time.

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QUOTE(coffee20038 @ Feb 14 2024, 01:33 AM)
touristking,

AWD and tricky situations - ie. driving up slippery slopes or car park ramps, wet grass with some mud, and the option to go slightly off the beaten track when I chose to. Also, I am  geek for the tech behind this AWD which is electronic and hence predictive. I test it up a steep parking ramp and it predicted the incline and sent power to rear wheels without waiting to detect slippage. The dashboard has a gauge to show torque distribution front/rear. As for improvement in handling/cornering, I don't feel much benefit.

Speed ans Fuel consumption on highway - my driving speed to obtain 14km/l range between 100hmh to 130kmh. It wasn't constant. Perhaps holding at constant 90kmh can get me better results.

Rims and tyres change and effect - tyres switched to Nexen RU-1 235/55/19 and 19inch et40 rims. The goal was to be as similar as the stock 19inch available in other markets hence the offset is same as stock. I found no significant difference in ride quality.

Warranty - you have to weight your risk appetite. But i wasnt going to roll on those stock rims.
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This video is worth watching, if you are into AWD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OzK-oRPCbs
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QUOTE(Old1030 @ Feb 28 2024, 05:47 AM)
Notice that very hard seeing G6 live on the road

TBH I only seeing it live in front of my eyes one time, like few week back at Publika towards Arte

Im staying at Mont Kiara, everyday commute Mex Hway to Cyber, very rare,, unlike G5, few weeks after first delivery, bersepah on the road

Honda Sales saying that this car is hot, waiting time plus 2 months, herm  blink.gif

Me seeing Tesla is more common than CRV, probably my office next to Tesla showroom,, but everywhere can see Model 3

Or maybe I thought it is a Volvo when seeing one CRV

Manage to sell my CRV and probably getting CX8 or again a CRV
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G6 is in between CX5 19" and the G5 in term of ride quality/comfort and steering sharpness.

For town driving, Hybrid has the edge. On highway above speed limit, turbo has the edge.

Never tried the CX8.




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QUOTE(jimmylim85 @ Feb 29 2024, 03:04 AM)
CRV compared with CX5 is the right thing even CX8 is around CRV G6 price. Start seeing many G6 around ipoh now. Design wise, like the front but not the rear boxy looking. G5 and G6 front seat seems to look similar.
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G5 looks more "Asian" with more flashy chrome. G6 looks less flashy, more plain like the European.








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QUOTE(RenoSaw @ Mar 3 2024, 09:26 AM)
I booked the ehev RS in Nov 2023 when they said can start booking. When it launch in Jan 24. SA told me maybe mid Feb can get car. And last week told me end March 24 can get.

Also wondering is it part issue
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May be that's only applicable to hybrid. I don't have that problem with the turbo version
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QUOTE(headhunter7 @ Mar 13 2024, 11:52 PM)
I see. Been following several CRV FB pages, seems like the S/E/V variants are now in stock, even though it was mentioned that production was halted. Hopefully I can get mine before raya.
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They better make fast and sell fast before the Chinese EV demolish their sales, like in China

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QUOTE(dudester @ Mar 20 2024, 03:20 AM)
i heard RS delivery in June
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How come? There are already Hybrid demo cars in showrooms.

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post Mar 21 2024, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(headhunter7 @ Mar 20 2024, 11:18 AM)
From whom..?

My SA said her allocation is one RS per month 🄲.. and I'm the third in line.
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Saw 1 RS on road.

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QUOTE(headhunter7 @ Mar 21 2024, 05:36 AM)
Certainly not mine lol. What colour was it?

On a side note, I really like the "stadium" seats for the rear passengers. Easier for them to see around as well.
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QUOTE(Keng @ Mar 22 2024, 03:34 AM)
SA just updated me the RS need to wait another 4 months. Booked late January.
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Why not consider the turbo version? I find it drives better at higher speed than the RS. In town, the RS drives better.

Some reviewers says the RS version, being heavier, has stiffer suspension.

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QUOTE(Keng @ Mar 25 2024, 04:55 AM)
The car will be used 97% of the time in town. We've tested both, the comfort in terms of vibration & noise when its running on battery is very nice.

p.s. We've considered EV but not feasible as we stay in condo.
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QUOTE(Crusader @ Mar 30 2024, 01:30 AM)
Thanks for the info. I test drive on the booking day, the performance/comfort acceptable for me (Came from CX-5 2.5 T)
Actually I felt the CX5 engine too powerful for me. Maybe I'm too old.
Also want to try a Hybrid car... never had one before.

I'm with Lowyat.net since 2003, definitely not young.  thumbup.gif
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How's the G6 handling compares to the CX5?

One reason I went for the 2WD instead of the AWD is because I was told the response from the 2WD is better. But I never have the chance to actually tried them for myself
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QUOTE(Old1030 @ Mar 30 2024, 04:44 AM)
You buying 2wd RS or 1.5E?

I never test drove RS,, even at first I booked RS
I did test E and V,, I not sure what you meant by response,, but for sure E is better in terms of pick up,, probably lighter? I dunno, not sure
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Yes, better pick up

I was deciding between the E's better pick up and the V's better cornering stability with AWD. Is the AWD cornering stability noticeably better than the 2WD?

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QUOTE(Crusader @ Mar 30 2024, 11:04 AM)
Definitely don't have the power of 2.5T but still not bad. And I find the Honda steering a bit stiffer than Mazda.

A quiet and comfortable ride on the RS.
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How's the CRV ride comfort on badly paved road as compared to the CX5? Both on 19" rim..
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QUOTE(Crusader @ Apr 4 2024, 01:57 PM)
CRV RS ride is more comfort and quiet compare to CX5. I think CRV rims are 18" not 19".

Not as bumpy as CX5 might due to thicker tyres on CRV RS.
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Yes, my mistake.

Does the CX5 handles better than the new CRV around corners etc?
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QUOTE(thesnake @ Apr 6 2024, 03:09 PM)
you guys are inching me away from placing booking on the RS.
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I decided to get the ICE 2WD. At a price difference of RM30K, can buy a lot of petrol and on highway, the ICE drives better.

Or may use that toward buying a small EV for town use when prices goes down further. These pure EV seems to have even better acceleration than RS.

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QUOTE(thesnake @ Apr 7 2024, 07:48 AM)
alamak, u pour cold water to my itch biggrin.gif

ICE meaning Espec? I did not test drive the Espec, how is the handling compared to RS?
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Only briefly driven the RS so take my opinion with a pinch of salt.

In town, noise mainly comes from the tires and I did not notice the RS having less tire noise.

At slow steady acceleration, of course the RS has no engine noise so quieter and more powerful. But if you accelerate hard, RS have this fake engine noise to make it sound like an ICE. Don't know why Honda wants to do that rclxub.gif

At above legal speed on highway, I read, the RS's 2.0 NA engine starts to take over and it has less power than the 1.5T's. So the ICE is better

At idle, obviously the RS is better. This ICE seem to have above average idling vibration, even compared to other ICE.

So overall, the RS is better but IMO, not worth the extra 30K. Thinking of using the saving towards a small EV later. The EV hands down beats the RS in acceleration. The 1st time I tried an EV, my jaws dropped.







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QUOTE(headhunter7 @ Apr 6 2024, 04:08 AM)
Im an owner of a cx5, waiting for my RS. The interior of the CX5 is just too small for the body size, very small bootspace too. Handling is subjective, its still taller than a sedan but is responsive i.e it goes where you want it to go, slight understeer in corners (i think all suv has that due to the higher centre of gravity). A slight regret as well as the cx5 has a pretty outdated infotainment system.

I'm all for the size of CRV, the new RS is much more refined in comfort and handling, not just comparing with the CX5 but also with the CRV G5.
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Are you saying, the G6 handles better than the CX5? That is a big leap for Honda.
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QUOTE(Old1030 @ Apr 22 2024, 04:06 AM)


Driving Experience
1. This car more quite than G5, but still a lot below par than X70, Mazda CX5, XTrail and Forester.
2. Toyo OEM tires less noise than last time Goodyear Asymmetric
3. Since V Specs is AWD, the Fuel consumption a bit on the high side, I can easily get 13Ltr without even trying on my G5 FWD
4. The AWD don't really give significant improvement on driving experience,, I feels like driving normal FWD car, even yesterday trying to reverse park at 1 shopping mall, this shopping build ram at few of their parking slots, and this car really struggle to even clear the ram (reverse)

Overall V Spec is not worth it,, just take E
Any different in traffic start off acceleration?

At traffic light idle, vibrations seem very obvious.



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